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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: akira_akuma]
    #13005993 - 08/05/10 08:16 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you are right...
its just whenever i have a strong reaction to something i always ask myself "why?"

I am not trying to judge ppl here tho or even offer an opinion cos i dont have 1


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: quinn]
    #13007594 - 08/05/10 02:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you may be intelligent in some ways, but you are socially retarded if you can't relate to people. That's all there is to it.


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: marmarlun]
    #13009777 - 08/05/10 10:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #13009929 - 08/05/10 10:51 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I can kind of identify. I'm smart and have very good self control. Sometimes I do feel like other people just don't get it. Having less self control or not "getting it" doesn't make them bad people. I know a guy with a mental disability who needs help spelling even simple words. To be blunt, he's stupid. He's also one of the nicest people I've ever met.


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: seylm]
    #13011504 - 08/06/10 09:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you know, sometimes I too feel like i'm too smart and like no one can relate to me, bet then i realize that i'm an idiot, you're a fucking retard, and even Einstein was a stupid ass human. You see, we are all pretty docile and small minded people. Our minds are limited. sure, there are always dummer people to compare yourself to and make yourself seem to be some genius who is cursed never to have any friends. No, you are probably just bitter, or you are too lazy or too self absorbed to go out on a limb and try to have friends. I know, because that's how I am. Nobody fucking cares how smart you are in this world anyway, unless they are just looking for a reason to judge you. nobody cares, people just have social needs. so if you want friends, go try to meet someone elses needs for a change, smart ass!


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: jaggaboo]
    #13018114 - 08/07/10 04:56 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like you need to trip OP.

Tripping shows you all the millions of ways in which you aren't perfect.

You think you're smart, and that's great.  There are, however, millions of scenarios in which someone you'd categorize as "less smart" than you has a significantly higher chance to survive, and even thrive.

It sounds like a terrible example, but a great example is low-level neighborhood gang and crew members (a gang being more of a formal organization, a crew being a collection of individuals).  These individuals, many of them anyway, have never had formalized schooling and some can't read or write or spell AT ALL, I'm talking about unable to read billboards that they see every day.

Those same individuals are in some cases capable of earning, and consistently do earn a thousand dollars a day.  Your average Private Military Consultant in Iraq might make 300-600 a day RISKING THEIR LIVES BEING SHOT AT.  These individuals (the street hoods) are capable of sizing an individual up within moments (observing an individual and determining their motivations, intentions, history, etc.) and can act accordingly just as quickly.

There are different kinds of knowledge.  Do you KNOW what it FEELS like to ride a motorcycle at 150 miles per hour on a straight-shot desert highway?  How far you can lean to the left or right without, within milliseconds, causing your life on this earth to come to an end?

Those are just a few examples.  Life is boring because you're making it that way.  You've maxxed out some of your Fallout skills but you have low numbers in other areas.  Diversify that porfolio brother.


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: Humility]
    #13018366 - 08/07/10 06:07 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #13018888 - 08/07/10 08:18 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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EntheogenicPeace said:
My advice to the OP:

If you are as intelligent as you claim (are we in talking science/physical, logic/reason, or both?), then you should use this to help people if you want to have friends (e.g. giving them good nutrition & fitness advice, taking the time to explain a scientific concept that they are having trouble with if you are in the same class, showing them how to do something if in the same lab, explaining or otherwise putting into proper context a political/global issue, etc.)

As far as thinking others are inherently & irredeemable dumb (Tea Party members excluded :smirk:), I disagree. In our ultra-consumerist society, I find that many people just haven't been intellectually challenged in any meaningful way as a result of how our corporate-dominated society is structured. For instance, once in a my comp. class we had to write a final paper on a subject of our choosing, & my was to dismantle the commonly & passively held rationale promoted from the top down post 9-11 that the U.S. was justified in invading Afghanistan. We each had to go in front the of class (it was a few weeks or a month b4 the paper was due) & give a brief oral presentation of our paper. I had to talk pretty fast to get through it all, but I did, & afterward some people (other students in the class) told me that while they never supported the war, they didn't have a good basis/solid argument for this opposition until they had listened to my brief speech.

The above story, yes, was perhaps being overly optimistic in that a lot of Americans (youth especially, which I'm guessing is most relevant here, but maybe not) are just apathetic & concerned only with their own material/comfort status & don't give a fuck about anyone or anything else (at least not outside their circle of friends & family, or at the most outside of whom they consider to be "their people," which is often nationalistic and/or racial in nature.) However, as is to be expected among such a large pool, a lot of people aren't this way. Further, many who aren't don't have good explanations, a global perspective, & an overall underlying basis for their concern due to us being in such an (officially & pervasively) shallow & anti-intellectual society... they don't have good sources of info. & visible leaders to learn from & provoke their thoughts.

What this is getting at: If you are intelligent in the logical & philosophical arena, & have a good deal of knowledge about politics & world affairs, & want to have friends/meaningful conversation/help others/be happier in life, then get involved in one or more progressive/humanitarian organizations & be such a leader... at least in some capacities based on your areas of intelligence.

P.S. The above advice is geared towards someone with a progressive worldview & empathetic to the plight of those less fortunate who strive for but are unable to attain dignity & sufficiency under the current global economic model. If you are a "Fuck everyone & everything else I'm gonna get mine!" right-winger, then I really have no good advice for making friends & being happier (which truly comes from helping others.) Someone else would have to help you in that case.





Again, this was not a request for help.

Furthermore, you are confusing intelligence and experience/education.  I read your post 3 times and it seems to be another reflexive defensive response, for the most part.  You just used a lot more words than "asshole."

I'm curious though, what are you referring to by "Current global economic model", and what separates those not fortunate enough to obtain dignity and sufficiency under it from those who can?

If I may answer my own question, I think it is knowing what your strengths are and utilizing them for the benefit of humanity that will be recognized and lead to dignity.  If however, you are a lazy misanthrope you will be treated as such. It's up to each individual to realize this on his/her own because if you are one of those people, somebody telling you you need to change your behavior isn't going to make you do it. It takes being a good person and reaping the rewards to make people understand that.


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: Humility]
    #13018934 - 08/07/10 08:29 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Humility said:
Sounds like you need to trip OP.

Tripping shows you all the millions of ways in which you aren't perfect.

You think you're smart, and that's great.  There are, however, millions of scenarios in which someone you'd categorize as "less smart" than you has a significantly higher chance to survive, and even thrive.

It sounds like a terrible example, but a great example is low-level neighborhood gang and crew members (a gang being more of a formal organization, a crew being a collection of individuals).  These individuals, many of them anyway, have never had formalized schooling and some can't read or write or spell AT ALL, I'm talking about unable to read billboards that they see every day.

Those same individuals are in some cases capable of earning, and consistently do earn a thousand dollars a day.  Your average Private Military Consultant in Iraq might make 300-600 a day RISKING THEIR LIVES BEING SHOT AT.  These individuals (the street hoods) are capable of sizing an individual up within moments (observing an individual and determining their motivations, intentions, history, etc.) and can act accordingly just as quickly.

There are different kinds of knowledge.  Do you KNOW what it FEELS like to ride a motorcycle at 150 miles per hour on a straight-shot desert highway?  How far you can lean to the left or right without, within milliseconds, causing your life on this earth to come to an end?

Those are just a few examples.  Life is boring because you're making it that way.  You've maxxed out some of your Fallout skills but you have low numbers in other areas.  Diversify that porfolio brother.




Those people still have a lower moment-to-moment probability of survival.
I'm curious why you think ingesting a psychedelic drug is your proposed solution to what you think is a problem.
Yes, I do know what it feels like to ride a motorcycle at very high speed on a straight, paved road. It's actually pretty stable form the gyroscopic effect of the wheels.  Just gotta keep your head down because of the wind.
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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: jaggaboo]
    #13018950 - 08/07/10 08:33 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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you know, sometimes I too feel like i'm too smart and like no one can relate to me, bet then i realize that i'm an idiot, you're a fucking retard, and even Einstein was a stupid ass human. You see, we are all pretty docile and small minded people. Our minds are limited. sure, there are always dummer people to compare yourself to and make yourself seem to be some genius who is cursed never to have any friends. No, you are probably just bitter, or you are too lazy or too self absorbed to go out on a limb and try to have friends. I know, because that's how I am. Nobody fucking cares how smart you are in this world anyway, unless they are just looking for a reason to judge you. nobody cares, people just have social needs. so if you want friends, go try to meet someone elses needs for a change, smart ass!




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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: seylm]
    #13018984 - 08/07/10 08:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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seylm said:
I can kind of identify. I'm smart and have very good self control. Sometimes I do feel like other people just don't get it. Having less self control or not "getting it" doesn't make them bad people. I know a guy with a mental disability who needs help spelling even simple words. To be blunt, he's stupid. He's also one of the nicest people I've ever met.




Exactly.

I see a lot of people making mistakes and not understanding themselves or other people and I feel like I see through most of it.  Like, nobody knows what they are doing or why they are doing it, and they don't like that awareness.  They don't like the responsibility of controlling themselves and taking themselves seriously.  But you feel good about people when they treat other people fairly and think about things, and make efforts to be a "good person" whatever that means for them.


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: elfamale]
    #13019678 - 08/07/10 11:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It's funny - instead of thinking about things in terms of YOU, you instead try to guess at what others are thinking 'I see a lot of people making mistakes and not understanding themselves'..geez why don't you turn the lens inwards, instead of assuming things about others?

You'd probably be surprised how off you are most of the time, on the basis of incomplete information alone. (I've known people in the past that think and mull around those exact same ideas - they've build something in their head more than anything)

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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: marmarlun]
    #13021474 - 08/08/10 12:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I only have a very few close friends and actually now that I think of it, I feel intellectually challenged by all of them.  Not as in we're douchebags, but I mean I feel inspired by them.  Whatever walk of life they're in, they're basically on the cutting edge of their ability, trying to figure out and accomplish whatever's in their path. 


Also, what's with all the comments trashing on the OP? Does someone praising themselves really piss you off that much?  It's not like he's on a soapbox screaming "I'M BETTER THAN YOU!!!!"  He created his own thread with a valid inquiry. 'Does anyone else feel like this?'

He could be an insecure douche, or he could be a smart guy whose genuinely okay with himself.

Kind of reminds me of the saying 'Curb your Enthusiasm'
People get fucking pissed if they see you having a good time or otherwise being pleased with yourself.


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: elfamale]
    #13021758 - 08/08/10 01:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: beneath]
    #13022266 - 08/08/10 03:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: Spooge]
    #13027047 - 08/09/10 02:44 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: Tesla]
    #13029251 - 08/09/10 09:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I bet that IQ test administered by your psychologist was just a way to make you feel better about yourself.

Have another go at one, see if you're still some kind of genius.

This thread makes you look anything but intelligent. You're problem is you're a prick. That's why people do not like you. You don't fit in!

Your reasoning for this - 'People just aren't on my level.'

Pathetic.

Either that all you are troll.

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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: Leenguy]
    #13029261 - 08/09/10 09:51 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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I bet that IQ test administered by your psychologist was just a way to make you feel better about yourself.

Have another go at one, see if you're still some kind of genius.

This thread makes you look anything but intelligent. You're problem is you're a prick. That's why people do not like you. You don't fit in!

Your reasoning for this - 'People just aren't on my level.'

Pathetic.

Either that all you are troll.

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You pretty much summed it up.

Even if this dude is a genius he obviously couldn't socialize himself out of a paper bag.


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: elfamale]
    #13029479 - 08/09/10 10:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

A great many humanists have had genius IQ scores. An agile mind shouldn't hinder your ability to connect to others. Have you ever had a dog? Dogs are dumb, but you've gotta love em.


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Re: Why I don't have friends [Re: Epigallo]
    #13031541 - 08/10/10 12:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Bradley - I've met dogs that are more useful than many human beings.  Dogs that can outperform human beings in every area, including critical-decision makinge.

Definitely gotta love'em.


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