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 Theta
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#1296455 - 02/10/03 10:55 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey peoples, I'm looking to compile a list of substances that intensify the effects of shrooms.
What kind of over the counter drugs, foods, or restricted drugs work to potentiate the effects of shrooms?
Two things come to my mind. First, a friend told me that grapefruit juice increases absorbtion and/or helps the drug cross the blood-brain barrier. Anyone know if their is any truth to this? Secondly, chocolate and yohimbe (an otc supplement) are supposed to be mild MAOIs - which supposedly potentiate the effects of shrooms.
Any comments on these?
What can you add?
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 Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1296521 - 02/10/03 11:22 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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The grapefruit juice thing is supposidly real, but the only time I tested it was when I drank a lot of beer and soda as well as smoked a lot of weed.
As far as other trip enhancers, I feel that a strobelight is a great tool.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Learyfan]
#1296523 - 02/10/03 11:23 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Marijuana will always be the number one trip enhancing tool in my book.. 
BTW, I don't believe chocolate is an MAOI. It's one of the things you are supposed to avoid in large amounts while using an MAOI as it can cause a reaction.
The only MAOI that I have experience with is Syrian Rue (Peganum Harmala), and that certainly does the trick.
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BTW, I don't believe chocolate is an MAOI. It's one of the things you are supposed to avoid in large amounts while using an MAOI as it can cause a reaction.
You may be correct. However, other MAOIs are Contraindicated when taking prescription MAOIs - perhaps this is one reason why chocolate is supposed to be avoided.
I Syrian Rue over the counter? Can it be found easily?
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 Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1296566 - 02/10/03 11:42 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, the best one I know of-
Syrian Rue ( Peganum Harmala ) 3 grams of dried powdered seeds used to make a tea and consumed 20 minutes before the mushrooms. It's a very strong MAOI.
This will A; change the whole quality of the experience, ( a bit more ayahuasca-flavored than plain psilocybin) and B; kick your ass, if you aren't well prepared for it. You'll be tripping for 8 hours and about 4 of those are the 'peak'. Make sure you will have somewhere quiet and private to go lie down if necessary.
Also requires a restricted diet for a day beforehand.
note- it's not sold at stores as a herbal supplement. I believe it is a legal substance but can't be sold for human consumption. You can get it from various internet-based suppliers.
Edited by Xibalba (02/10/03 11:44 AM)
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1296574 - 02/10/03 11:45 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is Syrian Rue over the counter? Can it be found easily?
Syrian Rue is a seed containing harmine/harmaline. It can be found being sold by numerous retailers online for very little cost. If I remember correctly, I bought 2 oz's of it for around $5.00..
Check out www.bouncingb.com
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1296578 - 02/10/03 11:46 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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i think chocolate works.....uummm anyone tried Yellow Jackets??
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B. Caapi the traditional harmine/harmaline-containing vine used in ayahuasca should also work, though I haven't heard of people combining this with mushrooms often.
It is a lot more expensive than the Rue.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1296593 - 02/10/03 11:50 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: KingOftheThing]
#1296607 - 02/10/03 11:53 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yellow jackets aren't shit.
Grapefruit juice DOES work too. Taken about an hour before any of the following drugs, it will greatly increase the strength of the effects: benzos, amphetamines, and opiates. Check the FAQ forum for more info.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Xibalba]
#1296610 - 02/10/03 11:53 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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B. Caapi the traditional harmine/harmaline-containing vine used in ayahuasca should also work, though I haven't heard of people combining this with mushrooms often.
It is a lot more expensive than the Rue.
In my experience with ayahuasca though, it requires alot more of this plant to get the desired effect as opposed to just using the Syrian Rue seeds which as you said only requires a dosage of about 3-6 grams. That's basically why it is as popular as it is when using it to brew ayahuasca. The Rue does have quite a body load that comes with it, and I've noticed it can often induce a pre-mature purge in some people when drinking the brew.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Xibalba]
#1296615 - 02/10/03 11:54 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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>Also requires a restricted diet for a day beforehand.
That's not exactly true. It only takes about 3 hours for your body to get rid of tyramine. I once ate a huge papa murphy's pizza with a bunch of cheeze and peparonie, then I ate ayahuaska 3 hours later and had no problems.
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 Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: TinMan]
#1296630 - 02/10/03 11:58 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Taking a vitamin C supplement with your dose will always perk it up, make the trip come on quicker and be a little more strong. This is the same basis as taking your shrooms with Orange Juice, or Grapefruit juice, those both have high vitamin C content.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Howardo]
#1296640 - 02/10/03 12:00 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know personally, but somebody around here just very recently said OJ actually LESSENS the trip..
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Ok, you're probably right-
In fact I think a recent study was saying that harmala is selective for the type of MAO in the brain over the type in the stomach, and so the "MAOI diet" may not even be necessary at all. I've pushed the rules a little myself with no ill effects. The worst you're likely to get is a headache afterwards, unless you do something really stupid like eating 5 ephedra pills and washing it down with a bottle of wine...
But- I think it's just a matter of 'better safe than sorry' to not eat any tyramine foods the day of your trip, and to eat as lightly as possible when you do. Because after enough times someone's going to be hypersensitive, and eat a pepperoni pizza & a beer, and have a simultaneous stroke and heart attack and bleeding from their eyes etc. etc. and die and get on a CBS special...
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Marijuana will always be the number one trip enhancing tool in my book..
Ditto 
If you guys could, please list how much you think a substance enhances a trip. While I may be able to take MAOIs and increase twofold, maybe Marijuana will only increase it by like 20% or so.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Seeka]
#1297150 - 02/10/03 02:34 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nitrous! 
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1297242 - 02/10/03 02:54 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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A Fender Strat with a big, loud amp usually works for me!
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: peruvian spark]
#1297259 - 02/10/03 02:58 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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And a telecaster too.
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 Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: poke smot!]
#1298088 - 02/10/03 09:17 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Shrooms + Nitrous Oxide combi has given me the strongest and most impressive Psychedelic experiences I ever had up to now. Beware: this is truely intense to the utmost degree 
Shrooms + Grass boosts too, but the result is not-quite Shroom, not-quite THC, but alot more of the former than the latter.
OJ can boost or inhibit. My personal tip: Grind dried shrooms into a fine powder and wash this down with DIET 7-UP, which is basically a citric acid solution sure to potentiate almost any alcaloid coingested with it. And it tastes great too
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Asante]
#1298402 - 02/11/03 02:04 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grind dried shrooms into a fine powder and wash this down with DIET 7-UP, which is basically a citric acid solution sure to potentiate almost any alcaloid coingested with it.
Any support for this?
Also, can anyone direct me to evidence of vitamin C helping or inhibiting a trip?
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: poke smot!]
#1299237 - 02/11/03 07:47 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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so has anybody tried shrooms with 5htp? what about any other intensifiers that i can buy at a local health store?
btw... i dont know why nobody has mentioned this, but Shpongle will definitely kick your trip up a notch, if thats yer kinda musik :-)
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1300062 - 02/11/03 12:22 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Salvia (as many hits as you can take in around 1-2 min), then nitrous (biggest hit you can take).
Do it in a dark place or in a room with a strobe light.
Watch out though, some people get seizures from stobe lights, and the salvia + nitrous oxide can be intense.
I would say 5-MeO-DMT, but I've never tried it.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: thepodman]
#1300148 - 02/11/03 12:57 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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remove 5-meo- and you're in for a trip
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Strumpling]
#1300958 - 02/11/03 08:10 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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High-dose shrooms is very similar to DMT anyway
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: zeta]
#1300989 - 02/11/03 08:44 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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kinda..
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Strumpling]
#1301135 - 02/11/03 11:04 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think this vitimine C stuff is just a myth, I cant remember sources though but here is an explanation. Basicaly drug companys created some drugs that where to expensive to give in high doses and it was found that a chemicle in greatfruits had an effect that increased the effecency of the drug, so it just cut down the cost. But the chemicle was not Vitimine C, people just presumed that it was. Thats why some drugs you can get from the doctors say to take with graetfruit juice. So I think that vit c is just a placebo.
But fasting for three days and only drinking water and at least 10 h over the three day of meditation would probably do it.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: EvilGir]
#1301421 - 02/12/03 02:49 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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fasting for three days and only drinking water and at least 10 h over the three day of meditation would probably do it.
That's an idea.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: SnuffelzFurever]
#1301900 - 02/12/03 07:06 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bought some 5-HTP today. I'm gonna try pre-loading and then smoking some bud to see if it has any effect. I read on erowid that it can make your weed high better...
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: EvilGir]
#1301929 - 02/12/03 07:17 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think that vitamen C is only needed for the space cats that trip every day so that they dont get sick.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: SnuffelzFurever]
#1303255 - 02/12/03 04:03 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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My brain is forcing me to second the Shpongle suggestion Its amazing
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Strumpling]
#1303300 - 02/12/03 04:21 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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My brain is forcing me to second the Shpongle suggestion Its amazing
I'd just like to third that suggestion.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1305748 - 02/13/03 12:14 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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GRAPEFRUIT JUICE DOES WORK
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Cracka_X]
#1305869 - 02/13/03 01:01 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well on tuesday I ate like 4g dry of Creepers and B+, along with 3g of syrian rue, and 20mg 5-meo-dmt, and i can say that it was extremely INteNSE. I was so gone that i took it at 5pm and didnt sleep all night and had to get up the next morning at 6am. I had a total outer body experience for about 2 hours where i just floated through my memories of childhood and my past. 5meoDMT makes you trip instantly, and i smoked it 15 minutes after ingesting the mushrooms so I was tripping hard right from the get go for like 10 hours.
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 Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1305895 - 02/13/03 01:11 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didnt had the opportunitie to try it but i heard that eating fish 2 or 3 hours before shrommz will enhance your trip a lot.
Can you guyz help me on that one.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: djurg]
#1305978 - 02/13/03 01:40 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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"High dosages of shrooms are similar to DMT anyway"
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theres a reason for that you know, psilocybin and psilocin are the chemicals in mushies, they are also called 4-phosphoryloxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine and 4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine
see...all of them contain DMT, just different stuff attached to it.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1306093 - 02/13/03 02:46 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Strong Valerian tea makes it different
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: ivi]
#1306237 - 02/13/03 03:41 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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I THINK THE ORANGE JUICE MYTH IS BULLSHIT!!!!
i ate like 4 grams of shrooms with some orange juice, and had a weak ass trip, and they were the same shrooms on which i tripped 2 grams and had a fun time, it was spaced out about a week, and both times were on emtpy stomach
on the 2 gram trip i smoked a blunt and it propelled my shroom trip into full open eyed visuals
on the 4 gram oj trip, i smoked 3 bowls and the trip seemed to stop
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: liftedoff420]
#1306993 - 02/14/03 01:58 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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GRAPEFRUIT JUICE DOES WORK
Yeah but not with tryptamine based drugs
Go and see the truth at Grapefruit juice dont work
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when u say amphetamines, do you mean like mdma (xtc)
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: EvilGir]
#1309893 - 02/15/03 11:46 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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That link doesn't mention tryptamines specifically. Though I guess seeing as how psilocybin is already very water-soluble, grapefruit juice probably wouldn't have an effect anyway. Is there any more specific info on this? 
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 Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1310084 - 02/15/03 02:08 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Licorice tea... read it somewhere... don't remember
exactly. Haven't tried it. If I want a stronger
experience, I ingest a larger dose. No sense in
mixing another chemical and risk interaction. IMHO.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1310480 - 02/15/03 06:24 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stay awake for about 24-48 hrs before dosing....Notice how when you don't get any sleep, you start to naturally hallucinate? Speed and Meth users know what I'm talking about...So when you consume a dose of shrooms afterwards....boy will you fucking FRY.....not recommended for the amatuer user of course.
Other than that...trip in a dark room...you'll get much more visuals....and blast some wild ass intense music of your choice....then you are in for the riiiide of your liiife =)
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makes me feel sick to do any drug when im tired as fuck (unless its a wake and bake, but if I say, stay up till 5am, then smoke, i feel like I want to barf.)
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Sombie]
#1311037 - 02/16/03 05:02 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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a everyday fruit that we eat here in Brazil is THE greatest thing to make you trip better...better meaning a more calm, relaxed trip.....
it's calld "Maracuj?" and i found the name of "Passion fruit" in the dictionary.....the scientifiv name is Passiflora incarnata L.
your trip is gonna be very smooth and you'll feel great "waves" of happines...
if you're afraid of getting in a bad mood while tripping, this is definitely (sp?) the best option....
and it's also natural, what, for me, is a must be...
I don't have anything that is not COMPLETELY free of "chemestry" the 48 hrs
before the trip....
well, i'd strongly suggest to do that....see if can can get the natural juice made of it, or the actual fruit itself....eat about 10 pieces of it, or have a full glass of the natural concentrated juice.....and have a nice fly....
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Peaceful_Nomad]
#1311280 - 02/16/03 07:27 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Licorice tea... read it somewhere... don't remember
exactly. Haven't tried it. If I want a stronger
experience, I ingest a larger dose. No sense in
mixing another chemical and risk interaction. IMHO.
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Great point! However, drug combinations have there place.
Some of the things that have been submitted as "trip intensifiers" in this thread are things that will juce your brains royaly regardless of the shrooms. That's fine, keep your ideas comming. However, what I'm looking for specifically are practices and cominations used in the pursuit of higher "meditative" and reflective states.
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 Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: marcosbj]
#1312971 - 02/16/03 10:57 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Passion fruits, eh? (Passiflora incarnata)
I believe you 100%!
Passifloras contain beta-carbolines like HARMINE (no harm done!) and these are exactly the same Monoamine-oxidase inhibitors as found in Syrian Rue!!!
So in a way you're doing the Psilocybin equivalent of Ayahuasca!
Didn't know it was in significant quantities tho, so: is it a DISTINCT difference?
Really wanna try that, if I'm allowed to dwell in the land of Psychedelix once more
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Asante]
#1313511 - 02/17/03 07:17 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, doing some quick net searching, I came up with this:
http://leda.lycaeum.org/Taxonomy/Passiflora_incarnata.318.shtml
(Edit: Erowid of course has their own section on this too. Durrr...  )
It seems that Passionflower Extract is indeed used to intensify mushroom trips. I don't know about the fruit. So perhaps Passionflower Extract (which is sold as an herbal dietary supplement at stores, unlike Syrian Rue AFAIK,) could be a viable replacement? I definitely intend to try this.
Also, does anyone know of possible interactions between MAOIs and Grapefruit Juice?
Edited by Arsenal (02/17/03 07:23 AM)
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: poke smot!]
#1313965 - 02/17/03 10:32 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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The majority of foods you're not allowed to take while on an MAOI are ones that contain Tryptamines. This is found in a number of foods (fish, cheeses, etc), any prescription website can provide you with a list (ex www.rxlist.com).
I believe you're talking about Tyramine.
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Marijuana the delightful plant with a bountiful journey packed in smooth smoke.
THC-8 : Psychedelic chemical found in sativa, african, tropical type strains. Is MORE potent then THC- 9 or THC-3. Due to the increased potencys THC-8 is found in smaller amounts.
THC-3 : gets you stoned
THC-8: makes you TRIP! (some strains have larger amounts of this, often misteaken for PCP or something)
THC-9: makes you (uplifting) high, energetic
The mind/visual journeys in THC-8 are amazing! Sometimes it just tripps out the mind, sometimes just visual, sometimes both.
Try Nevilles haze, nebula, Silver pearl, trance, hawaii strains, ultra skunks, hidu kush, maui also contain THC-8.
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I find the things that most intensify shroom trips are....... more shrooms But actually, IMO, it's all setting. I don't know if any of you saw the post about the washing machine box with the blacklight and blacklight paint in it, but if I was in there, I'm pretty sure I could trip sober.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: mtglu]
#1315752 - 02/18/03 01:37 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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When i was in Amsterdam i noticed that in all the smartshops, in the zip locks that had the dried shrooms in to sell, they had written on a paper on the zip lock that with many grams of pure vitamin C you can make the trip more calm.
So vitamin C does NOT itensify the trip.
sorry for my shitty english
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Hamurabi]
#1316252 - 02/18/03 07:16 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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sorry for my shitty english
Don't be, your english was fine!
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1316736 - 02/18/03 11:09 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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ANy sort of vitamin C supplements have been known to help enhance the intensity of a shroom trip. This includes taking the raw vitamin.
People also consider chocolate/caffeine rich substances but I'd say it is only adding another effect of the stimulation of uppers.
I always knew smoking weed helped. It would always add another level on the trip, and often serves as a furthering off into your trip. They just seem to match up really well.
Food with really sharp, pungent flavors can also stimulate a trip for whatever given period that the flavor lasts. E.g., hot sauce, warheads...
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1323268 - 02/20/03 06:53 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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So yeah, here is a list of everything mentioned here, regardless if someone else said it dosen't work. Some things will be mentioned twice but not in the same way (i.e. one could be "MAOIs" and then the next could be Syrian Rue) In no particuliar order...
1) Grape Fruit Juice
2) Marijuana
3) Syrian Rue
4) MAOIs
5) Chocolate
6) B. Caapi
7) Close your eyes
8) Vitamin C
9) Nitrous
10) Music
11) 5HTP
12) L-Tyrosine
13) SAMe
14) DIET 7-UP
15) Salvia
16) stobe lights
17) 5-MeO-DMT
18) Fasting
19) DMT
20) Meditation
21) Shpongle (music)
22) Fish
23) Valerian tea
24) Licorice tea
25) No sleep
26) Maracuj? (Passiflora incarnata)
27) Setting
28) Caffine
29) Large Bouncy Balls
30) Frizbee
31) MDMA
I just thought I would throw that last one in there, even tho I have yet to try it, MX-bombing is supposed to be good.
Quite a list we have going on here.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Sombie]
#1325878 - 02/22/03 04:07 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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something i like to do is stand on my head against a all with my entire back and feet against the wall andwall and do some 'inverted pushups' usually about 10 is all i can dish out when im trippin hard but when ur done the room goes krazy =)
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: morbydvisns]
#1328733 - 02/23/03 11:13 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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you guys should try to grow Maracuj? (passion fruit)
if you eat about 10 of the fruits, I'll be calm enough to trip well....\
Try to find the sweet one to eat or the sour one to make the juice (mix the juice with the mushrooms and the nasty taste will go away with enough sugar)
it's quite easy to cultivate it and it's also a great trip toy....
the tree, while having visuals
and the fruit itself, while you're heading up to the peak
meditation, maracuj? and plenty of oranges....that's the perfect trip foe me
marijuana.....I personally wound't smoke WHILE tripping, but I'd surely smoke it to make it easier to get inside the mushroom world....
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: marcosbj]
#1328799 - 02/23/03 11:45 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the summary thus far Sombie. Keep those ideas rolling.
Speaking of inverted pushups.... I'm a very physicaly active guy. I've noticed a post-peak phenomenon several times I've tripped on shrooms. When I'm on the downward slope I often find myself compeled to start cranking out pushups, body weight squats, situps, shoulder presses, etc. Just getting my blood pumping and my muscles pumped makes me feel great - like a big, happy animal.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1329942 - 02/23/03 09:06 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have tried both OJ and vit C and have had vastly different results. There was no effect with the vit C tablet, either positive or negative. On the other hand the OJ made the experience much better. I usually don't eat or drink much while tripping( I seem to be preoccupied) but when I made an effort to drink OJ it helped. My guess is that the OJ helped add some form of nutrition and energy(think blood surgar level) as I fast for several hours beforehand. Strangely I don't get the same sensation from sodas, so who knows.
It has also been discussed that a LOW dose of a benzo can "shield" a trip, and I totally agree. In place of a benzo I have also used kava kava, and some other substances with depressent qualities may also work.(though not alcohol, which is much better at the end of the trip to calm down) I can't trip at the moment due to outside circumstances, so I won't be able to try any of the other suggestions, to my dismay. 
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Theta]
#1330464 - 02/24/03 03:18 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Vitamin C does nothing to a trip.
It may work as a placebo.
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Phluck]
#1330727 - 02/24/03 05:17 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Phluck]
#1337193 - 02/26/03 07:52 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Orange juice tastes good.
But yeah, I agree, i guess C pills are just placebo....
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#1341976 - 02/28/03 03:24 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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but placebos work fine, anyways...
like that little band says
it's all in your head..
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: marcosbj]
#6655704 - 03/10/07 01:08 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is all from personal experience:
vitamin c - placebo
nitrous oxide - doubles or triples experience for a few minutes and strongly intensifies the experience after that. KILLS BRAIN CELLS
cannabis - about 20% x the experience with more mellow and happier vibes after or during the peak, but during come-up can cause anxiety, depending on the quality and how it was cultivated and cured
hashish - beautiful
passion flower - have yet to experiment with increased activity, but it definitely provides a more mellow and happier experience, moreso than cannabis
chocolate - intensifies and elongates the trip, but chocolate is difficult to digest in large amounts which can bring bad vibes and nausea
caffeine - more energetic and happier trip, but more anxiety during come-up
someone mentioned washing it down with 7-up. i thought this was a good idea, too until i tried it this morning and almost blew chunks. i dont think carbonation helps digestion, and ease of digestion is one of the most infulential factors for me on the positivity of the trip. after an unpleasant experience during digestion, i remembered i had passion flower gelcaps in my cupboard, so i took one of those and proceeded to have a happy sleepful time, in which shroom "dreams" seemed to be reality! psillyahuasca?
anyway, all of these substances are psychoactive and therefor affect each individual differently. ive developed relationships with certain substances and mixed them in with my shroom trips, only to have the shrooms tell me what was good for me and what wasnt. passion flower is a thing of beauty tho! im gonna try to cultivate it soon!
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: dddkiddd]
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Learyfan]
#18743939 - 08/22/13 07:12 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Last night I washed down 1g of Penis Envy mushrooms with a cup of
grapefruit juice, and I know PE are potent but I had an incredible mushroom experience off only 1g! I know 1g doesn't seem like a lot but I was surprised at how effective it was.
It was only my 3rd experience on mushrooms and 1g was more potent than a previous 3.5 trip I had. Not saying the Vitamin C is what did it but I definitely feel like I tripped much harder than I should have off 1g. Good times indeed 
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Re: Trip Intensifiers - lets build a list [Re: Labs4858]
#18743985 - 08/22/13 07:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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MAOIs such as Banisteriopsis Caapi or Syrian Rue intensify and prolong tryptamine based psychedelics.
Also, ps: this thread was started 10 years ago 
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Hey all,
Found some information on potential LSD potentiators in a few library books the other day. Dotted them down as they seemed quite interesting to share.
- Passionflower increases the “spiritual” qualities of LSD, making it more like a full blown entheogen, more along the lines of ayahuasca, more “visionary”.
- The dose used is often 1-2 tablespoons.
- Clove oil should help with absorption of the LSD. Clove oil has been used in many topical medications for this very reason. It helps compounds pass through membranes in a way similar to DMSO.
- By combining LSD with clove oil, you'll be 'hit' harder as it passes through the barriers of the stomach, etc.
- It is also a psychoactive and apparently potentiates the visual effects of many psychedelics.
- Cinnamon bark oil (about 5 drops) potentiates LSD by releasing adrenalin.
- Cayanne pepper (about 800 mg) potentiates LSD by releasing adrenalin.
- Nux vomica (100 mg) potentiates LSD quite a bit by increasing all sensory stimuli.
- 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds potentiate LSD.
The following herbs potentiate LSD by acting synergistically on various 5-HT sites. For this reason they should be dosed at about the same time as the LSD for best effects.
The oils elemicin, myristicin, safrole, and methyl chavicol potentiate the effects of LSD, but only if used with the proper enzyme inhibitors. For these a dose of 100-200 mg is used along with the proper enzyme inhibitors. The potentiation can be extreme because these agonize 5-HT2 sites specifically.
Surprisingly valerian root oil potentiates the effects of LSD. A dose of 200 mg is used. This agonizes several 5-HT sites also agonized by LSD. Smaller doses act as a mild sedative only. You must use a large dose or its not effective at all.
- German chamomile (10 cups of flowers or 3 drops of the essential oil) potentiates LSD very mildly. It agonizes 5-HT4. Smaller doses act as a mild sedative only. You must use a large dose.
- Black cohosh potentiates LSD by agonizing several 5-HT sites
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