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California weed vs Amsterdam
    #12961884 - 07/27/10 04:52 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Never been to Amsterdam but I'm very familiar with Cali.
I'd really like to know from someone who is from Cali that has actually been to Amsterdam.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12961940 - 07/27/10 05:03 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Although Amsterdam has some damn good weed.  It has nothing on the quality and selection of the medicinal scene in California.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Helge]
    #12961953 - 07/27/10 05:05 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty equal. There's a lot of weed spread in Holland and Belgium.

A LOT


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Beanhead]
    #12961959 - 07/27/10 05:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Pretty equal.





agreed
what's different, the way people talk to the plants?


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Helge]
    #12961989 - 07/27/10 05:13 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Although Amsterdam has some damn good weed.  It has nothing on the quality and selection of the medicinal scene in California.




why?
it dosnt make sense to me, there are good growers in every corner of the world that can make equally killer bud to the medicinal growers in cali.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #12962018 - 07/27/10 05:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know, maybe i just hated the sketchiness of buying Amsterdam weed.  It felt like going to a bar here in the states. Also, it is not technically legal, so you really have no idea what you are smoking even if it is the chronic..

Not that you know for sure the strain is what it is advertised as in California, but the atmosphere is so much more professional, and there are so many dispensaries that it just blows away Amsterdam if you have your card.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim] * 1
    #12962023 - 07/27/10 05:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I would have to think it doesnt matter.  There are quality growers all over the world.  Cali has some good weed but does that mean they have better weed than North Carolina or Kansas?  Cali just has more of it and it is easier to find. 

If you dont know a good grower then you might have trouble finding really good weed.  Marijuana is not like coke where someone steps on it at every level, but the grower picks out his nugs, and passes it on, the next guy picks out his nugs and passes it on, and so on.  I had friends who went to school in Holland and became very good friends with a couple of shop owners over there and they were saying that so many people have picked out their own nugs before it even gets to the shelves of the shop, though it is still good weed. 

There is good weed all over the world, just all about who you know


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Helge]
    #12962060 - 07/27/10 05:26 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know, maybe i just hated the sketchiness of buying Amsterdam weed.  It felt like going to a bar here in the states. Also, it is not technically legal, so you really have no idea what you are smoking even if it is the chronic..

Not that you know for sure the strain is what it is advertised as in California, but the atmosphere is so much more professional, and there are so many dispensaries that it just blows away Amsterdam if you have your card.




but its not technically legal in california either? and whats sketchy about buying weed in a coffee shop. ive havent actually been to amsterdam yet so i dont really have much of a say.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: kechlesurf]
    #12962064 - 07/27/10 05:26 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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There is good weed all over the world, just all about who you know




Exactly.

Its just a plant guys.

Cali isn't the only place that has sunshine :wink:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12962068 - 07/27/10 05:28 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Beanhead said:
Pretty equal.





agreed
what's different, the way people talk to the plants?





:lol:
I was just about to say that.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Helge]
    #12962095 - 07/27/10 05:33 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know, maybe i just hated the sketchiness of buying Amsterdam weed.  It felt like going to a bar here in the states. Also, it is not technically legal, so you really have no idea what you are smoking even if it is the chronic..




weed being illegal never reduced the quality for me, I still got high

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Not that you know for sure the strain is what it is advertised as in California




not that you know what strain you're getting when you get it anywhere,
or when you grow from seed, you have no clue of people are tossing bag
seed into envelops and selling you crap or not that's why I never buy
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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: niteowl]
    #12962103 - 07/27/10 05:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Cali isn't the only place that has sunshine :wink:





why do they call it the sunshine state then? :flowstone:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12962160 - 07/27/10 05:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Texas has Dank ass Greenery

And if i ever went to Amsterdam i wouldn't be paranoid like some ppl stated on this forum .. Why? B/c most of America has stricter laws .


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12962226 - 07/27/10 06:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I'm getting nothing but hearsay from everyone in this thread, nobody that has posted is even a med patient in California or been to Amsterdam.
I live in socal as a mmj patient now and think that California has the best simply by how much marijuana and growers there are here. In Amsterdam it's maybe a dozen or so bars operating semi-legally under stricter laws then anywhere in California. Out here even the best marijuana gets bested week after week, outdoor weed is sold for rock bottom prices and even the dankest of dank can be had for as little as $10 a gram with much better deals if you know somebody. They now try to market the medical strains as the top strains in dutch coffee shops, so I figure the dutch have to be behind.
I'm not saying the same great weed cant be grown anywhere, but nobody has it as good as Cali.


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    #12962227 - 07/27/10 06:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ive been to cali


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim] * 2
    #12962238 - 07/27/10 06:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

so cali and amsterdam has the best green in the world?

thats not very smart and very much hearsay.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12962241 - 07/27/10 06:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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ive been to cali




I want to grow weed, but it's not going to be dank unless I grow it in socal.:goomba:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12962254 - 07/27/10 06:07 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm getting nothing but hearsay from everyone in this thread





the only way you'll get something other than hearsay is if you use a GC/MS
to test all the weed being produced, then you compare it to weed in north
Ga and east Tn and you'll find cali pales in comparison to even mexican
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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: King Koopa]
    #12962260 - 07/27/10 06:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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ive been to cali




I want to grow weed, but it's not going to be dank unless I grow it in socal.:goomba:





that's true, I read it on the internet, a drug message board even

here's the link

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12962241#12962241

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    #12962261 - 07/27/10 06:09 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

No it might be dank, just not like anything out heeeeeeeeeeere. plus all the crazy hash and edibles are even better than most of the actual bud, you just dont get it man.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12962278 - 07/27/10 06:10 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

IT'S FUCKING POTHEAD PARADISE.


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    #12962294 - 07/27/10 06:14 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It's magic! :tongue2:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12962304 - 07/27/10 06:16 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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IT'S FUCKING POTHEAD PARADISE.





close... it's more like this



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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12962317 - 07/27/10 06:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ummmmmm...... yeah the weed in cali is fucking bomb?


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12962329 - 07/27/10 06:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I hear that Denver Colorado is almost as good as California...


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    #12962334 - 07/27/10 06:21 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

They are near equal I'm told.


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    #12962343 - 07/27/10 06:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I hear that Denver Colorado is almost as good as California...





I hear it's better because the granola doesnt run the state


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    #12962345 - 07/27/10 06:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I hear Texas produces the dankest pecans. You ain't ate pecans till you ate em here


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    #12962355 - 07/27/10 06:23 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I hear Texas produces the dankest pecans. You ain't ate pecans till you ate em here





georgia... we're know for our pecan plantations

oddly, we're the peach state but gafney south carolina grows more peaches than the whole state of georgia


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    #12962356 - 07/27/10 06:23 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I hear that Denver Colorado is almost as good as California...





I hear it's better because the granola doesnt run the state




There might be some truth to that.


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    #12962368 - 07/27/10 06:25 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I hear that Denver Colorado is almost as good as California...



I hear it's better because the granola doesnt run the state




From what I've been told/read that Hawaii has some very good bud..Due to its soil...


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    #12962371 - 07/27/10 06:26 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I hear that Denver Colorado is almost as good as California...





I hear it's better because the granola doesnt run the state




There might be some truth to that.





the last thing I have to say on the subject of california







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    #12962390 - 07/27/10 06:29 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I hear Texas produces the dankest pecans. You ain't ate pecans till you ate em here





georgia... we're know for our pecan plantations

oddly, we're the peach state but gafney south carolina grows more peaches than the whole state of georgia





but here theres like a lot pecans here and like a lot of people grow them and like you could buy them in stores for cheap. and the pecan pies are even better then the pecans.

that right there makes the pecans here better than anywhere


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    #12962394 - 07/27/10 06:29 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

wtf are pecans.


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    #12962399 - 07/27/10 06:30 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I hear that Denver Colorado is almost as good as California...



I hear it's better because the granola doesnt run the state




From what I've been told/read that Hawaii has some very good bud..Due to its soil...





and probably it's lack of californians


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    #12962414 - 07/27/10 06:32 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I hear Texas produces the dankest pecans. You ain't ate pecans till you ate em here





georgia... we're know for our pecan plantations

oddly, we're the peach state but gafney south carolina grows more peaches than the whole state of georgia





but heres like a lot pecans here and like a lot of people grow them and like you could buy them in stores for cheap. and the pecans are even better then the pecans.

that right there makes the pecans here better than anywhere





that sir is a magnificent example of Paridis logic, the only thing that
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    #12962418 - 07/27/10 06:33 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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wtf are pecans.





they're nuts that are about the shape and size of your nuts


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    #12962421 - 07/27/10 06:33 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Californians are normal, kinda mexicany but normal enough for my southern ass, people from up in new england are weirder.


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    #12962426 - 07/27/10 06:34 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

hope they taste better than my nuts:confused:


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    #12962430 - 07/27/10 06:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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hope they taste better than my nuts:confused:




I thought you were trolling? You ain't lived till you tasted my mammys pecan pie!


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    #12962438 - 07/27/10 06:37 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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hope they taste better than my nuts:confused:




I thought you were trolling? You ain't lived till you tasted my mammys pecan pie!





you bastard... I wanna pecan pie


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    #12962439 - 07/27/10 06:37 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ive heard of pecans just didnt knwo wtf they were. im going to google them :thumbup:


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hope they taste better than my nuts:confused:





normally not as salty, not that I know what your nuts taste like :naughty:


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    #12962448 - 07/27/10 06:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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ive heard of pecans just didnt knwo wtf they were.





here in the south it can have a double meaning especially to those of us that know what an outhouse is


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    #12962452 - 07/27/10 06:40 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I used to go to a place called Priester's Pecans or something in Alabama every time I'd go to up north and goddamn they were some good pies and candies. No shame in regional agricultural pride.


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    #12962459 - 07/27/10 06:42 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

they look tasty:awesome:

pecans i mean, not my nuts:rolleyes:


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HAHAHa I just noticed your location was England and then realized you might have never heard of a pecan. It's a nut, it taste great in pie.... huge popularity in the southern american states. you gotta try them.


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i actually dont think ive ever seen them in any stores here :shrug:


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they look tasty:awesome:

pecans i mean, not my nuts:rolleyes:





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Damn you should, I'd hate to think people in England never get to eat pecans, or never even tried PECAN PIE, DANG. if I was an old lady I'd faint.


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i think they must exist here coz there are recipies for pecan pie in our cook books

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    #12962502 - 07/27/10 06:50 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

My mom would lose her faith if she heard that


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southern pecan pie is rich but delicious, not so much so that you need to stop after a couple of bites tho


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    #12962517 - 07/27/10 06:52 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

There not as good as black walnuts... :hehehe:


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it's the best nut based pie I can think of.


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southern pecan pie is rich but delicious, not so much so that you need to stop after a couple of bites tho




Absolutely DANK with Homemade Vanilla ice cream

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it's the best nut based pie I can think of.





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fuck yeah blue bell.


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I hear Texas produces the dankest pecans. You ain't ate pecans till you ate em here





georgia... we're know for our pecan plantations

oddly, we're the peach state but gafney south carolina grows more peaches than the whole state of georgia





but here theres like a lot pecans here and like a lot of people grow them and like you could buy them in stores for cheap. and the pecan pies are even better then the pecans.

that right there makes the pecans here better than anywhere




Um buddy this IS how you get the best genetics , the shear prevalence and selective breeding creates the best. Pecans, marijuana, coca, oysters..... it doesn't matter what plant or animal, it's the generations of farming in ideal conditions by masters of the craft. Read a darn book sometime fella.

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    #12962671 - 07/27/10 07:25 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I hope you're trolling. Cannabanoid content has reached it's peak, 10000 more generations aren't going to make a difference. Jesus H Christ, I know you just don't have a account on the growery just to have one, Mr Pink. Unlike you, I read and know what the fuck I'm talking about.

I thought you were trolling in the beginning, that's why i carried on the way I did. If you want me to prove it, I will.

Like someone with a medical card in cali AND has been to amsterdam can tell you where "best" weed is grown!

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    #12962683 - 07/27/10 07:29 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

whats dumb about a weed high :confused:


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Everything is going to be subjective. Even if you went out and tested every single strain in the world, highest THC content =/= most enjoyable smoke. People like different qualities about different strains. I'd say this is the one reason California pulls ahead, because there's so many growers and so much variety. You can get dank anywhere, but you might not find that one smoke you love.


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whats dumb about a weed high :confused:




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    #12962709 - 07/27/10 07:33 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Um retard this IS how you get the best genetics , the shear prevalence and selective breeding creates the best. Pecans, marijuana, coca, oysters..... it doesn't matter what plant or animal, it's the generations of farming in ideal conditions by masters of the craft. Read a fucking book sometime asshole.




quit the flaming ok

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wooopsy forgot about pub rules, we insult each other all day in otd for sport.


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I hope you're trolling. Cannabanoid content has reached it's peak, 10000 more generations aren't going to make a difference. Jesus H Christ, I know you just don't have a account on the growery just to have one, Mr Pink. Unlike you, I read and know what the fuck I'm talking about.

I thought you were trolling in the beginning, that's why i carried on the way I did. If you want me to prove it, I will.

Like someone with a medical card in cali AND has been to amsterdam can tell you where "best" weed is grown!

Good thing I quit smoking pot, this thread is another reason why I believe it's a dumb dumb high.





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    #12962774 - 07/27/10 07:44 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Almonds and pecans are really tasty.  Mmmmmmmmmm mmmmmm.


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Everything is going to be subjective. Even if you went out and tested every single strain in the world, highest THC content =/= most enjoyable smoke. People like different qualities about different strains. I'd say this is the one reason California pulls ahead, because there's so many growers and so much variety. You can get dank anywhere, but you might not find that one smoke you love.




My feelings exactly, I said best not strongest....... the strongest is rarely my favorite, although Cali has that on lock. It's like wine country in California for marijuana, no drug users in history have had easier access to this kind of variety or supply, well not since alcohol prohibition ended and the flood gates opened bootleggers.


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I hope you're trolling. Cannabanoid content has reached it's peak, 10000 more generations aren't going to make a difference. Jesus H Christ, I know you just don't have a account on the growery just to have one, Mr Pink. Unlike you, I read and know what the fuck I'm talking about.

I thought you were trolling in the beginning, that's why i carried on the way I did. If you want me to prove it, I will.

Like someone with a medical card in cali AND has been to amsterdam can tell you where "best" weed is grown!

Good thing I quit smoking pot, this thread is another reason why I believe it's a dumb dumb high.





You're wrong, and talking out your butt.





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    #12963091 - 07/27/10 08:55 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I would have to think it doesnt matter.  There are quality growers all over the world.  Cali has some good weed but does that mean they have better weed than North Carolina or Kansas?  Cali just has more of it and it is easier to find. 


There is good weed all over the world, just all about who you know




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    #12963100 - 07/27/10 08:56 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Bottom line (back to weed), its not the state that grows the weed, it is the grower, and genetics of course, but the grower makes the biggest difference. 

Cali has more growers so more weed to talk shit of, but that doesnt say they have the best.  It is an argument that has no answer, there are good growers in Cali, Maine, Florida, North Carolina, everywhere.  Personal preference also makes a difference, you can THC test every strain and that is the only REAL way to prove it, but just because it has the highest THC content, could have the harshest pull, shitty taste, and crappy high.  If it was all about the THC content, everyone would smoke hash or iso oil

But Cali has it right with the weed scene (except for it is worth to much so there is still a criminal organization to it, they need to devalue it), hopefully soon all of America will collapse to the legality of weed if everything goes well in Cali this November i think it is


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    #12963173 - 07/27/10 09:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Afghanistan and Colorado have the best weed.  It's the altitude.  THC is a protective molecule for the plant, and it will produce more THC at higher altitude.

Colorado indoor is the best weed there is, because we already start out so high.  You lowlanders don't really even have a chance against a garden 8500 feet up.


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Afghanistan and Colorado have the best weed.  It's the altitude.  THC is a protective molecule for the plant, and it will produce more THC at higher altitude.

Colorado indoor is the best weed there is, because we already start out so high.  You lowlanders don't really even have a chance against a garden 8500 feet up.





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    #12963238 - 07/27/10 09:19 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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    #12963246 - 07/27/10 09:21 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

The science of lying.
Bernoooli's principle of making shit up.


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    #12963317 - 07/27/10 09:31 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Haha...  All you skeptics can suck it.  I'll be smoking a bowl, which is better than yours. :wink:

"Recent Swiss trials in outdoor plots of clones grown at different altitudes have shown that there is correlation between higher altitude and increased potency (although there seems to be a trade off in yield). This likely means that THC-rich resins act to protect the plant and its seed from both higher light intensities and ultraviolet presence. It's no surprise that cannabis has developed a chemical to protect itself against the Sun's damaging UV rays, as they can be injurious to all forms of life."

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2159.html


That said...  It's just like food.  Some people like apples, some like bananas, some like processed-ass hot dogs.  I like my shit organic, in living soil (complete with my own varieties of trichoderma), and always cured for at least 3 weeks.


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    #12963396 - 07/27/10 09:40 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Personally, I find it has just as much to do with the grower as the genetics.  Both are just as crucial to get right when going for a high quality product.  You can teach retards to play basketball all day, but if you start with tall, athletic people...

I find that the "best weed" is very often different from the "most potent weed," though sometimes I am looking for something to just fuck me up...  My personal favorite so is Super Silver Haze from greenhouse seeds.  I ended up with a perfect little christmas tree phenotype that wonderfully exhibits the most desirable traits (IMO) of the strain.


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Freaking moroon, that is speculation thesis, which is not fact, and you are right, that is a basic fact, speculation done on a study is basic fact, freaking moroon




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And scientist once theorized the world was flat, and i bet they still believe that in Colorado


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Fucking moron, that is speculation thesis, which is not fact, and you are right, that is a basic fact, speculation done on a study is basic fact, fucking moron





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    #12963432 - 07/27/10 09:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for making even less sense, then leaving Before proving why your aren't wrong.


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Haha...  All you skeptics can suck it.  I'll be smoking a bowl, which is better than yours. :wink:

"Recent Swiss trials in outdoor plots of clones grown at different altitudes have shown that there is correlation between higher altitude and increased potency (although there seems to be a trade off in yield). This likely means that THC-rich resins act to protect the plant and its seed from both higher light intensities and ultraviolet presence. It's no surprise that cannabis has developed a chemical to protect itself against the Sun's damaging UV rays, as they can be injurious to all forms of life."

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2159.html


That said...  It's just like food.  Some people like apples, some like bananas, some like processed-ass hot dogs.  I like my shit organic, in living soil (complete with my own varieties of trichoderma), and always cured for at least 3 weeks.


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For your name to be Science Guy, you sir are pretty uneducated




You're the one who didn't know some basic facts about THC production being influenced by environmental factors.  If I hadn't mentioned it, you probably still wouldn't know.  Keep priding yourself on assuming you're smarter than the professionals.





interesting.


however, thats outdoor^^.


indoor is a whole 'nother animal.



the uv rays from the sun increase the THC production in those outdoor plants at higher altitude.

this does not apply to your indoor plants :stonedjerk:

outdoors, you cannot reach the resin production that an indoor plant supplemented with c02 would reach.

so if youre comparing the dankness of INDOOR buds,

your argument is invalid.

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    #12963448 - 07/27/10 09:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Fucking moron, that is speculation thesis, which is not fact, and you are right, that is a basic fact, speculation done on a study is basic fact, fucking moron





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Straight from your bunghole, cannabis culture is not fact.... it's a rag not suitable for a scientist such as yourselves wiping purposes.




I like you guys...  You don't represent competition at all.  :wink:  See ya later.





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    #12963493 - 07/27/10 09:55 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with you completely, had an argument with some guy several months ago on here saying hed rather have the best seeds given to the shittiest grower than the worst seeds given to the best grower, you are right there


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    #12963571 - 07/27/10 10:12 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

If you don't believe me, you should try for yourself.  Even though some of you seem a little abrasive, you should come to the mountains and try my delicious organic weed.

I admit it's hard to find sources for this kind of shit, but that's because it's illegal, and consequently hard as hell to research.:facepalm:  My own experience has led me to draw certain conclusions based on the things I've seen and the data available.

Also, Cannabis Culture didn't conduct the study, and this is not the first time I have seen this idea presented.  I'm not sure how CC's role as a news source undermines the credibility of the study conducted by Swiss scientists.  Did you expect the scientists to just email their results to you?


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    #12963578 - 07/27/10 10:15 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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    #12963595 - 07/27/10 10:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Haha...  All you skeptics can suck it.  I'll be smoking a bowl, which is better than yours. :wink:

"Recent Swiss trials in outdoor plots of clones grown at different altitudes have shown that there is correlation between higher altitude and increased potency (although there seems to be a trade off in yield). This likely means that THC-rich resins act to protect the plant and its seed from both higher light intensities and ultraviolet presence. It's no surprise that cannabis has developed a chemical to protect itself against the Sun's damaging UV rays, as they can be injurious to all forms of life."

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2159.html


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For your name to be Science Guy, you sir are pretty uneducated




You're the one who didn't know some basic facts about THC production being influenced by environmental factors.  If I hadn't mentioned it, you probably still wouldn't know.  Keep priding yourself on assuming you're smarter than the professionals.





interesting.


however, thats outdoor^^.


indoor is a whole 'nother animal.



the uv rays from the sun increase the THC production in those outdoor plants at higher altitude.

this does not apply to your indoor plants :stonedjerk:

outdoors, you cannot reach the resin production that an indoor plant supplemented with c02 would reach.

so if youre comparing the dankness of INDOOR buds,

your argument is invalid.

crash and burn :cortez2:




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    #12963625 - 07/27/10 10:24 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Normal regular mail would be fine.  And i wouldnt trust the swiss on cannabis quality, i went there for a glass show about 5 or 6 years ago, and EVERY single person puts more tobacco than weed in their joint, bowl or whatever they are smoking out of and they grow mass quanity of shitty outdoor.  The weed scene there is weak, mexico has better weed that they put in fuel tanks and smuggle across the border


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    #12963647 - 07/27/10 10:28 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

CO2 supplementation is a joke...  and environmentally irresponsible.  Keep your grow room under 75 and CO2's effect is negligible at best.

Indoor or outdoor, altitude is altitude.  Shit works different at 8,000 to 10,000ft.  You're not growing weed in pressurized container, are you?



If this argument isn't a reason to just legalize it...  Then we could just send our samples to a lab and test them and see who's dick was biggest.


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    #12963681 - 07/27/10 10:34 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Normal regular mail would be fine.  And i wouldnt trust the swiss on cannabis quality, i went there for a glass show about 5 or 6 years ago, and EVERY single person puts more tobacco than weed in their joint, bowl or whatever they are smoking out of and they grow mass quanity of shitty outdoor.  The weed scene there is weak, mexico has better weed that they put in fuel tanks and smuggle across the border





Haha... This post actually made me laugh.  Motherfuckers laugh at us because we don't put carcinogens in with our weed.  I do like weed mixed with mullein though.  If you're vaporizing, there are all sorts of herbs you can mix in that will enhance/change/influence the effects of weed, or you can use them alone.  I like lemon balm, dalmatian sage, damiana, lavender, and eucalyptus leaf (among others) in many different combinations.


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    #12963689 - 07/27/10 10:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I think CO2 mostly helps with quanity not quality, but i could be wrong, i just know i started pulling more per watt when i introduced CO2


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    #12963690 - 07/27/10 10:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Normal regular mail would be fine.




Nobody uses normal mail anymore.  Not even scientists.  Not even swiss weed scientists.  In the future, there will be no mail. (duhn duhn DUHN!!!!!)


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    #12963702 - 07/27/10 10:38 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I have a friend who likes to cure weed in a cedar box or different kind of wooden boxes, its ok, adds a little spice to it, i wouldnt do it to all my weed, but a little change is fine. 

ScienceGuy, Im hoping to get a vaporizor after outdoor season, what kind of herbs could you use to enhance it?  I am kind of intrigued by this


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    #12963713 - 07/27/10 10:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

what does mullein taste like, i have heard of it but never smoked it


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    #12963723 - 07/27/10 10:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

actually, putting more tobacco than weed in a joint isnt necessarily a bad idea.

because it certainly doesnt take me a joint of straight up weed to get ripped off some good shit. and you would save money on tobacco (if you smoked it anyway) by buying rolling tobacco and not cigarettes. granted, it would probably be more of a 'i rolled this for myself' type of thing, since there would be just enough to get one person stoned in it.

ive never done it before, and im not particularly inclined to do so because i rarely smoke joints.


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    #12963726 - 07/27/10 10:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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CO2 supplementation is a joke...  and environmentally irresponsible.  Keep your grow room under 75 and CO2's effect is negligible at best.

Indoor or outdoor, altitude is altitude.  Shit works different at 8,000 to 10,000ft.  You're not growing weed in pressurized container, are you?



If this argument isn't a reason to just legalize it...  Then we could just send our samples to a lab and test them and see who's dick was biggest.







dude, they said the reason they produce more thc is because the intense uv. pressure has nothing to do with what your talking about.

and just say they make a plant that has adapted to this uv and makes more thc consistently.

indoor you cannot replicate the suns uv power, so you lose alot of potency simply because the plant was adapted to the environment outside.


c02 is far from a joke, you need to get a grip buddy.

ive almost doubled my yields from increasing c02 in the air from around 400 ppm to 1500ppm.

temperatures play a huge role, yes.

ideal temperature when supplementing c02 at 1500 ppm is about 85 degrees fahrenheit.

75 is too low when supplementing c02 because the plants metabolism increases with heat.


corndog burning in your face :cortez2:


actually, i dont believe you even grow, and if you do you are quite ignorant of ideal conditions in an indoor environment.


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    #12963730 - 07/27/10 10:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i just dont think tobacco taste good and a little harsh to inhale


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    #12963736 - 07/27/10 10:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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i just dont think tobacco taste good and a little harsh to inhale





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    #12963741 - 07/27/10 10:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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i just dont think tobacco taste good and a little harsh to inhale





who the fuck puts tobacco in a joint.

i do not enjoy tobacco.

i love weed.

putting tobacco in a joint would RUIN the weed imo.


i tried it before when i used to smoke cigs on the advice of a friend.

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    #12963748 - 07/27/10 10:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I prefer tubes and glass pipes to joints, joints take away from the taste halfway through it when the weed that has resignated starts to burn.  But am looking forward to buying a vape this year, looking at a volcano right now


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    #12963756 - 07/27/10 10:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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i just dont think tobacco taste good and a little harsh to inhale





who the fuck puts tobacco in a joint.

i do not enjoy tobacco.

i love weed.

putting tobacco in a joint would RUIN the weed imo.


i tried it before when i used to smoke cigs on the advice of a friend.

it was horrible.




I am sure it was, never wanted to try it, when i was in swizterland, they all kind of looked at me weird when i turned down their tobacco joint and rolled my own with straight weed.


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    #12963767 - 07/27/10 10:50 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Normal regular mail would be fine.  And i wouldnt trust the swiss on cannabis quality, i went there for a glass show about 5 or 6 years ago, and EVERY single person puts more tobacco than weed in their joint, bowl or whatever they are smoking out of and they grow mass quanity of shitty outdoor.  The weed scene there is weak, mexico has better weed that they put in fuel tanks and smuggle across the border




I always figured they didn't know what the fuck was up with the whole putting tobacco in with bud.... hash sure so it burns the hash nice and even but why ruin good flowers. Another reason I figured dutch weed is bunk was the fact that few of the strains get respect in California from medical patients, who can chose any strains to work with. You never see the cannabis cup winners in dispensaries, the most popular are all Cali clones and new weird shit.
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    #12963772 - 07/27/10 10:51 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Cannabis Cup was started by Americans i believe


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    #12963777 - 07/27/10 10:52 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I think CO2 mostly helps with quanity not quality, but i could be wrong, i just know i started pulling more per watt when i introduced CO2




You can get the same quantity just by keeping your temps at like 72.  As the heat increases, the stoma on the undersides of the plant leaves close to prevent too much moisture loss through transpiration.  Introducing them to a high CO2 environment reopens the stoma and allows the plant to continue it's processes (just with a higher water, lower nutrient demand).  By keeping the temps lower, you allow for more healthy soil culture, and keep the root zone cool, and the stoma on the plants function normally.  I think CO2 only caught on with indoor gardening because it's a way to get around running a really hot room.  I consider it a recognition of a problem, but it's not the appropriate solution IMO.  I have seen it used successfully (though still not the best solution), but most guys I know who run hot rooms get root rot (unless they're growing in coco with regular innoculations of beneficials).

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what does mullein taste like, i have heard of it but never smoked it




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    #12963799 - 07/27/10 10:57 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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actually, i dont believe you even grow, and if you do you are quite ignorant of ideal conditions in an indoor environment.




You're right, I don't grow.  My plants do.

I know this...  An ounce of prevention is worth well more than a pound of cure when you're growing anything.  CO2 is just cure.  Prevention is running good temps that allow for SOIL metabolism to flourish.  What's feeding your plants?


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    #12963811 - 07/27/10 10:59 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I think CO2 mostly helps with quanity not quality, but i could be wrong, i just know i started pulling more per watt when i introduced CO2




You can get the same quantity just by keeping your temps at like 72.  As the heat increases, the stoma on the undersides of the plant leaves close to prevent too much moisture loss through transpiration.  Introducing them to a high CO2 environment reopens the stoma and allows the plant to continue it's processes (just with a higher water, lower nutrient demand).  By keeping the temps lower, you allow for more healthy soil culture, and keep the root zone cool, and the stoma on the plants function normally.  I think CO2 only caught on with indoor gardening because it's a way to get around running a really hot room.  I consider it a recognition of a problem, but it's not the appropriate solution IMO.  I have seen it used successfully (though still not the best solution), but most guys I know who run hot rooms get root rot (unless they're growing in coco with regular innoculations of beneficials).

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what does mullein taste like, i have heard of it but never smoked it




Here's some stuff on mullein...

http://home.teleport.com/~howieb/smoking/smoke5.html






the heat allows more water to be transpired, and the metabolism of the plant to increase overall.

the result being a bigger plant, with more yield.

root rot is not a problem with my setup, i use a small amount of hygrozyme per gallon of water.

did i mention my setup is 100% organic as well?

c02 is in rooms for a reason, stop spouting dumb shit that youre pulling out of your ass.


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    #12963841 - 07/27/10 11:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Oregon outdoor is best...:stoned2:

I got sooooo much weed here, that i need to quit, just to get high again because my tolerance to weed :sad:


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    #12963869 - 07/27/10 11:09 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody knocking outdoor, smells a little musky but it's nice.


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    #12963875 - 07/27/10 11:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Nobody knocking outdoor, smells a little musky but it's nice.





best tasting weed i ever had was outdoor.


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    #12963906 - 07/27/10 11:16 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I just smoked the last of my gram of indoor Blueberry earlier today. Wasn't the best I've ever tasted but was very nice smoke and a strong indica hybrid to remember. My favorite tasting strains are:
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    #12963947 - 07/27/10 11:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I just smoked the last of my gram of indoor Blueberry earlier today. Wasn't the best I've ever tasted but was very nice smoke and a strong indica hybrid to remember. My favorite tasting strains are:
Jack Herer
OG Kush
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urkle is bomb,


the blueberry i had tasted liek you were chomping on a mouthful of fresh blueberries.


i have never gotten weed that good again.

though it wasnt nearly as potent as any top notch indoor, it tasted out of this world.


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I usually combat those kinds of negative statuses with a status of my own.

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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
    #12964066 - 07/27/10 11:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Why would you post a thread about what area has better weed, if you are talking about indoor???

If you are trying to compare different area's weeds,...Its outdoor you are talking about....

Indoor from L.A is grown the exact same as indoor from china...It just depends on WHO is growing it and how that person grows it

Outdoor is the real "comparing competition"...It seems people try to compare their indoor, as if they don't even have outdoor to talk about


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    #12964083 - 07/27/10 11:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It's not a who got the best climate for marijuana thread, It's a what city has the best nugs available thread.


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    #12964176 - 07/28/10 12:01 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Any place in the world all has the same indoor....Because all strains are available through the web, anybody can just order some seeds..

It just depends on the majority of people in that area who are dedicated to growing some good ass indoor with perfect climate in his/her dedicated basement/empty room...


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    #12965547 - 07/28/10 09:33 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

That is still to broad Slim, why do people even care about if their city has the best smoke.  They should care if THEY have the best smoke and not worry about what everyone else is smoking and enjoy their smoke.  Its like arguing about what city has the hottest girls.  There are hot girls every where, just different types of hot girls


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    #12965552 - 07/28/10 09:36 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

and then drying it, curing it, and storing it.  I think a lot of growers over look these important steps.  But they are just as important as the overall growing process, because you can really bring out the taste in the curing process.

I like my weed cured a little bit, but that is just me.  Some people like it fresh (right after it is dried).

I have seen a lot of growers try to rush dry it to smoke it, or sell it, and it devalues the overall product


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    #12965603 - 07/28/10 10:00 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

science guy you silly billy:lol: but im willing to take you up on your offer of trying it for myself:vaped:

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and then drying it, curing it, and storing it.  I think a lot of growers over look these important steps.  But they are just as important as the overall growing process, because you can really bring out the taste in the curing process.

I like my weed cured a little bit, but that is just me.  Some people like it fresh (right after it is dried).

I have seen a lot of growers try to rush dry it to smoke it, or sell it, and it devalues the overall product


  :thumbup:

But back to the point of this thread,

A lot of people are forgetting that weed is not legal in the netherlands, and coffeeshops in amsterdam are limited as to how much they can hold at any given time.  Therefore, they orchestrate shipments throughout the day from secret stash houses that were supplied by illegal growers.  This guy who lived with us for a while was from the netherlands.  He moved to the states and was renting out his home.  the renter just filled entire rooms with soil straight on the ground in an illegal cannabis grow op, caused like $93,000 in damages and has yet to pay because he's been getting continuances in court for 2 years now. 

It should be noted that I have been to amsterdam and have tried several coffeeshops, strains, and eatables.  I was also born in California, visit there, and smoke cali weed via express mail dealers. 

In California, the medicinal (rather than recreational) distinction has led to greater transparency in where and how your weed is grown.  More importantly, the quasi-legal status allows growers to move forward in breeding and experimental treatment more efficiently, without fear of jail time.  Also, the eatables present in nice, clean medical dispensaries are in harsh contrast to the weak muffins or brownies you can buy from behind a bar at the dingy coffeeshops in amsterdam. 

Don't get me wrong: I absolutely love Amsterdam.  Probably my favorite city in the world.  But I do genuinely believe Cali beats out Amsterdam in this argument, if only because it's more legal there.  Oh yeah, and (i don't have a medical card) but it seems as if the selection is far greater in Cali than I had seen in Amsterdam (15-20 strains per shop).


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    #12965667 - 07/28/10 10:19 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I smoked cali medical exclusively for a while.

Moved to Texas. Most of the weed I buy here is just as good as the medical. Maybe 1 in 5 times it is shittier.

The main advantage of getting the cali weed is that you know exactly what you're getting. If I bought GDP now then bought it in a month, I know it would be essentially the same.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: templeton1]
    #12965686 - 07/28/10 10:27 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

its not as legal in holland as most people think it is.

you can have 5 plants but they always can take the 5 plants from you without punishment,if you give them voluntarily to the police when they come.
with more then 5 plants in your house they can unbind your house rent contact for it and then you have no house anymore.

also you can buy 5 grams but you only are permited to smoke it in the coffeeshops(if they have a closed smoke room) or at home.

if yo walk from the shop where you bought cannabis to your home your doing a illegal thing.
you are not permitted to walk or drive with cannabis in your pockets.
if they catch you with it the police legally can take your cannabis.

the rules are strange in holland,i have 5 plants and the police almost took my plants away.
i had very good luck they did not.

also in te dutch coffeeshops they sell more and more cannabis wit pesticides or even with''fake thc'like glass dust,sugar,coca cola,and even chemicals.

so i think the weed in california is way much better then in holland ,
i smoke it 20 years now but the last 5 years the quality sucks.
its better to grow your own 5 weed plants in holland but even tha is a big risk now.

the rules about cannabis sucks really hard here in holland.
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    #12965761 - 07/28/10 10:56 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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science guy you silly billy:lol: but im willing to take you up on your offer of trying it for myself:vaped:

pack me a bowl ready :thumbup:





I mean it.  If you wanted to see the states before the meltdown, now's a good time to do it!  I've got to get the fuck out of here...

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and then drying it, curing it, and storing it.  I think a lot of growers over look these important steps.  But they are just as important as the overall growing process, because you can really bring out the taste in the curing process.

I like my weed cured a little bit, but that is just me.  Some people like it fresh (right after it is dried).

I have seen a lot of growers try to rush dry it to smoke it, or sell it, and it devalues the overall product




Curing is just as important as growing.  If you cure right, you continue to increase the potency (slightly) and the flavor (a lot).  I can always tell when people have cured or not.  IMO, a two week cure is minimum.


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    #12965808 - 07/28/10 11:12 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

My Cali MMJ is always cured, and super(bly) potent. :jointsmile:


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    #12965834 - 07/28/10 11:20 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i can only compare Amsterdam herb to FL herb.
and the herb in Amsterdam blows anything imaginable that you could get in FL.
unless of course you are the grower.

there are mixed feelings on the herb between amsterdam/california.
my boy in the bay area raves about the herb there all the time, and wouldn't want to smoke any other shit.
i've tried some AK-47/OG Kush, when he brought it down south, and boy was it fire.
could i compare it to amsterdam..of course! in amsterdam it's all about knowing where the fuck you have to go (coffeeshops) .
there are some shanty cofeeshops with medium-mid high grade shit..
but hell. there were a few shops where i tried LSD/Bubblegum/Cheese.

my friends dad who has been smoking and going to amsterdam for over 30 years now, says the buds in the states are just as good as the buds in amsterdam. i mean this is coming from a guy who smokes about 4 J's + a day , so experience/years is noted here.

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    #12965856 - 07/28/10 11:29 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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That is still to broad Slim, why do people even care about if their city has the best smoke.  They should care if THEY have the best smoke and not worry about what everyone else is smoking and enjoy their smoke.  Its like arguing about what city has the hottest girls.  There are hot girls every where, just different types of hot girls




NO it's not too broad or vague a question. it makes perfect sense. Cali or Amsterdam who's got the better dank?
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and then drying it, curing it, and storing it.  I think a lot of growers over look these important steps.  But they are just as important as the overall growing process, because you can really bring out the taste in the curing process.

I like my weed cured a little bit, but that is just me.  Some people like it fresh (right after it is dried).

I have seen a lot of growers try to rush dry it to smoke it, or sell it, and it devalues the overall product


  :thumbup:

But back to the point of this thread,

A lot of people are forgetting that weed is not legal in the netherlands, and coffeeshops in amsterdam are limited as to how much they can hold at any given time.  Therefore, they orchestrate shipments throughout the day from secret stash houses that were supplied by illegal growers.  This guy who lived with us for a while was from the netherlands.  He moved to the states and was renting out his home.  the renter just filled entire rooms with soil straight on the ground in an illegal cannabis grow op, caused like $93,000 in damages and has yet to pay because he's been getting continuances in court for 2 years now. 

It should be noted that I have been to amsterdam and have tried several coffeeshops, strains, and eatables.  I was also born in California, visit there, and smoke cali weed via express mail dealers. 

In California, the medicinal (rather than recreational) distinction has led to greater transparency in where and how your weed is grown.  More importantly, the quasi-legal status allows growers to move forward in breeding and experimental treatment more efficiently, without fear of jail time.  Also, the eatables present in nice, clean medical dispensaries are in harsh contrast to the weak muffins or brownies you can buy from behind a bar at the dingy coffeeshops in amsterdam. 

Don't get me wrong: I absolutely love Amsterdam.  Probably my favorite city in the world.  But I do genuinely believe Cali beats out Amsterdam in this argument, if only because it's more legal there.  Oh yeah, and (i don't have a medical card) but it seems as if the selection is far greater in Cali than I had seen in Amsterdam (15-20 strains per shop).





See this is exactly the kind of anecdotes that this thread is for.
Nearly everyone else who's posted sounds like a jealous kid from the mid-west that thinks their weed is as good as cali med weed.... IT ISN'T.
California's marijuana selection is like an aviary where all the worlds most exotic birds have come to breed. Also I've smoked the dank from the rest of the country nearly everyday for the last 11 years form places like Florida, Nola, Atl ,Nyc, and multiple citys along the eastern seaboard. and It is occasionally great, but the first bag of dank I got in cali made it seem like butt weed in comparison.
I watch dutch marijuana growing videos and clips from youtube and these people really dont seem as "hip" as the people in california. As for these people that think the dank in their town is as good as Cali....... it's likely from here.


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    #12965880 - 07/28/10 11:35 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

my boy in the bay area raves about the herb there all the time, and wouldn't want to smoke any other shit.

That's where I get my shit. :vaped:


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    #12965903 - 07/28/10 11:42 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know about Cali or Dam weed, but Tennessee weed is pretty damn good. Great mids and cheap as fuck. You guys pay way to much for way overrated weed. I don't drink champagne every time I want to get drunk. I drink the best cheap beer I can find. Same reasoning applied.


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    #12965910 - 07/28/10 11:44 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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my boy in the bay area raves about the herb there all the time, and wouldn't want to smoke any other shit.

That's where I get my shit. :vaped:




fire weed! :crazy2::happyweed:
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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Kada]
    #12965919 - 07/28/10 11:45 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

it's $10 a gram for OG...... that's close to mid prices. You are the one paying too much for "mids" (mexican).
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    #12965927 - 07/28/10 11:47 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Denver has more dispensaries than Starbucks (over 400), if you're looking for variety.  Just sayin...  You guys keep thinking you have it in the bag, and we'll keep flying under the radar. :wink:


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I keep forgetting denver.


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    #12965970 - 07/28/10 12:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I can't even get high off of "mids", but some Cali pot clubs sell that shit for pretty cheap.


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    #12965985 - 07/28/10 12:07 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I keep forgetting denver.




So does everyone else!  It's fucking crazy out here!  We have over 4000 applications hitting the MMJ registry PER DAY in CO.


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    #12966036 - 07/28/10 12:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

That's good to hear, hopefully other cities and states will follow suit.


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...and countries.


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    #12966082 - 07/28/10 12:37 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Shit the whole world could legalize marijuana tomorrow :shocked: and everyone would be just fine. BYE BYE tobacco...... and there lies the problem.


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    #12966090 - 07/28/10 12:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck tobacco, that shit's for hobos and rednecks.


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    #12966096 - 07/28/10 12:40 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

They still need to devalue it cause it is so much money behind it there is still a criminal organization hidden in it


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    #12966111 - 07/28/10 12:46 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Agreed. It's still completely criminal, disguised as compassion.


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    #12966114 - 07/28/10 12:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

You guys crack me up. Start a flame war over where the best pot comes from, lol.


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    #12966129 - 07/28/10 12:51 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys crack me up. Start a flame war over where the best pot comes from, lol.




its to the point, where everything has been repeated and it just keeps going


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You guys crack me up. Start a flame war over where the best pot comes from, lol.




I flamed nobody, read all my post in this thread.


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    #12966146 - 07/28/10 12:55 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, it seems to have died out about 15 posts back, but it still cracked me up reading "WHY DON'T YOU TRY READING A FUCKING BOOK?" in a thread about which place has better pot. Potheads are supposed to be chilled out. Apparently people aren't getting the memo these days.


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    #12966227 - 07/28/10 01:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

also another thing,
most people think this skunk weed was made in amsterdam but it was senden from california under the name''northen light'' in the sixties.
skunk hybrides are from that northen light.

we only refined it,but from origine it is from california.
so the roots of all skunk lays in california not holland.
so im for sure they did the same thing in cali,so i think the quality is not badder,but minimal even strong or stronger.


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    #12966341 - 07/28/10 01:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Poid]
    #12966365 - 07/28/10 01:50 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ive never been to either but smokeing in public without a medcard sounds great


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: sporesmores420]
    #12966424 - 07/28/10 02:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Motherfuckers blaze out in the open in downtown Denver now.  I can't remember the last mountain bike ride/snowboard hike I did where someone wasn't blazing at the top or on the side of the trail.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12966597 - 07/28/10 02:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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but nobody has it as good as Cali.





i have a message for you, it's in this song











oh and visit oregon before you make a silly statement like that. or colorado. or BC in canada


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
    #12966629 - 07/28/10 02:56 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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FatChicksNcoke said:
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kechlesurf said:
i just dont think tobacco taste good and a little harsh to inhale





who the fuck puts tobacco in a joint.

i do not enjoy tobacco.

i love weed.

putting tobacco in a joint would RUIN the weed imo.


i tried it before when i used to smoke cigs on the advice of a friend.

it was horrible.




A lot of people do that around here.
This one guy I know does it every time he smokes.

I think it's gross.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: kirilan]
    #12966657 - 07/28/10 03:03 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It's called a spliff, they're quite pleasant with the right blend. :smile:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Poid]
    #12966660 - 07/28/10 03:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone smokes spliffs round these here parts.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12966671 - 07/28/10 03:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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it's $10 a gram for OG...... that's close to mid prices. You are the one paying too much for "mids" (mexican).
You can get shwag for almost free.



I don't smoke weed from mexico. I smoke weed grown in Kentucky. Really good mid. Everyone that smokes it says it's better than any mids they have come across. So  :P


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Kada]
    #12967127 - 07/28/10 04:37 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know about Cali or Dam weed, but Tennessee weed is pretty damn good. Great mids and cheap as fuck. You guys pay way to much for way overrated weed. I don't drink champagne every time I want to get drunk. I drink the best cheap beer I can find. Same reasoning applied.




I used to think like that.  I also didn't buy in bulk.

Now I smoke high quality weed exclusively and buy in bulk (I buy by the OZ).  I have a good hookup so I don't spend that much more on it these days, but I used to spend more on the good weed.  Even when I had higher prices, it lasted so much longer, that in the long run I would spend less and save money than the mids even if I bought the mids in bulk.  It just takes getting a good hookup to not get raped in the prices.  I am a daily smoker, so this may not be true for people that don't smoke that much.  I have been offered some high quality weed at way higher prices that would refute this claim.

Plus I am way more productive with good weed.  I get really lazy and get headaches when I smoke mids.  A good sativa is way better than mids.  Even with an indica, I am more productive than with mids.  I think it is because with mids I keep having to smoke more and the lazy effect compounds or something, I can't really explain it.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12967138 - 07/28/10 04:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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King Koopa said:
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SouthernGulfStyle said:
ive been to cali




I want to grow weed, but it's not going to be dank unless I grow it in socal.:goomba:





that's true, I read it on the internet, a drug message board even

here's the link

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12962241#12962241

:awesome:



false

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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Kada]
    #12967152 - 07/28/10 04:42 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Alabama Slim said:
it's $10 a gram for OG...... that's close to mid prices. You are the one paying too much for "mids" (mexican).
You can get shwag for almost free.



I don't smoke weed from mexico. I smoke weed grown in Kentucky. Really good mid. Everyone that smokes it says it's better than any mids they have come across. So  :P




Maybe that isn't mids...maybe you are just getting good outdoor bud at great prices?


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #12967223 - 07/28/10 04:51 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Everyone smokes spliffs round these here parts.



ive never refered to a spliff as a joint with tobacco. here a spliff is just anohter word for a joint, tobacco or not :shrug:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #12967243 - 07/28/10 04:54 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Man it must be cool being English, do you have an awesome cockney accent? If I did I would sit around all day making prank calls  saying shit like "absolutely splendid."  and I would call women "birds" man I'm pretty high right now.
Inbetweeners is funny.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #12967267 - 07/28/10 04:57 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Virus_with_Shoes said:
Everyone smokes spliffs round these here parts.



ive never refered to a spliff as a joint with tobacco. here a spliff is just anohter word for a joint, tobacco or not :shrug:



I don't think I've ever seen someone roll a pure weed joint here. It's always spliced with tobacco.  :shiftyeyes:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #12967289 - 07/28/10 05:00 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

give it a try it's way better, burns slower and smoother. taste weed too.
What do none cig smokers do?


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12967293 - 07/28/10 05:00 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:rofl: i sound completley opposite to a cockney. i got a west country accent.

probably quite irritating to some.

everyone always tries to impersonate it when i travel :lol:


basicly how i sound :awesome:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #12967307 - 07/28/10 05:03 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome that's even cooler.
I like to get drunk and sing along to the clash all drunkly with a fake accent. I'm pretty good.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12967339 - 07/28/10 05:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

best weed i have ever had was from Leeds, Yorkshire.

was stronger than any  Amsterdam, canadian or Cali weed i have tried.


it's all relative though.


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    #12967548 - 07/28/10 05:57 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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druqs said:
best weed i have ever had was from Leeds, Yorkshire.

was stronger than any  Amsterdam, canadian or Cali weed i have tried.


it's all relative though.




:werd:

Anyone that thinks Cali weed is better than any other weed is a :tard:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: niteowl]
    #12967589 - 07/28/10 06:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Have you ever been to California? Simple yes or no if you actually tried medical marijuana from California.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: niteowl]
    #12967752 - 07/28/10 06:42 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

california bud is better because its more wide spread. Sure, you can find quality weed anywhere. but in california, all you see is quality. I've never seen brick weed before in my life.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: danielx]
    #12967769 - 07/28/10 06:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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california bud is better because its more wide spread. Sure, you can find quality weed anywhere. but in california, all you see is quality. I've never seen brick weed before in my life.





theres a shitlaod of brick in cali.


although, i will give you one thing.

its still pretty good quality.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
    #12967791 - 07/28/10 06:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

where are you hanging out? skidrow?


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: danielx]
    #12967802 - 07/28/10 06:50 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:curbyourenthusiasm: man schwag is catching a bad rap.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: danielx]
    #12967864 - 07/28/10 06:59 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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where are you hanging out? skidrow?





you'd be surprised at how much money can be made off of mexican brick weed.


and no, it was a middle class neighborhood.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim] * 1
    #12967890 - 07/28/10 07:03 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I have been a habitual pot smoker for about eight years

I used to live in the Midwest and moved to California 4 years ago.

The medical pot I have gotten out here is better than just about any I got in the Midwest.

I was in Amsterdam this summer for about a week, they have good pot but I would have to say California has the best selection ( for sure) at maybe the best prices.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Floating_In_Space]
    #12967901 - 07/28/10 07:05 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, perfect post.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12967981 - 07/28/10 07:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I have been all over the planet smoking weed.
Holland, Cali, Texas & most of the Southern states.

Cali has more good weed, but not the best weed.

Each area has weed that is as good as the Cali buds

You will end up paying a shit ton for it

but Cali is not the only place to get good weed :sorry:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: niteowl]
    #12967995 - 07/28/10 07:24 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Nah dude you're wrong. Just my opinion not trying to be a jerk but you are as wrong as can be.


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    #12968001 - 07/28/10 07:25 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

NoCal is the best weed in the world; even in Amsterdam they know NoCal as that one area with the REALLY good weed. Amsterdam is just better-known because of the legal setup.

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    #12968036 - 07/28/10 07:31 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Dude I know it all trickles down the coast.


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    #12968053 - 07/28/10 07:33 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude I know it all trickles down the coast.





good weed can be grown all over.


chances are the weed that you're smoking has not trickled down the coast at all.

it was probably grown in your city, or in one of the surrounding cities.


i think you would be surprised at the amount of people who grow herbs, theyre everywhere, in every city.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
    #12968098 - 07/28/10 07:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Do you think I dont understand indoor marijuana growing?
The fact is the weed in norcal sells for cheaper, so a good amount of vendors go up there for the discount.
Yes I imagine much of the indoor is local or even grown by the actual dispensary and it's patient, but tons, literally tons of weed comes down that coast.


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    #12968104 - 07/28/10 07:44 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Nah dude you're wrong. Just my opinion not trying to be a jerk but you are as wrong as can be.




Are you saying that only Californians can grow weed :imslow:


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    #12968111 - 07/28/10 07:46 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

No.


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    #12968120 - 07/28/10 07:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I think it's easy to underestimate just how much weed is grown in NoCal. There's probably enough to serve the entire developed world.


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    #12968129 - 07/28/10 07:50 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Cali isn't the only place that has sunshine :wink:





why do they call it the sunshine state then? :flowstone:




i hope you joking lol. cali isnt the sunshine state. thats florida man.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: swope]
    #12968159 - 07/28/10 07:57 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Pris knows everything, didn't you hear they renamed cali the sunshine state? florida is now just americas wang.


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    #12968204 - 07/28/10 08:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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but Cali is not the only place to get good weed :sorry:




of course not, but per capita, california has much better weed. theres no arguing that fact.


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    #12968208 - 07/28/10 08:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Hahaha well guys, I'm from Amsterdam, and I've been to Cali, and Cali weed has Formula: 0 on Dam weed. You just got to know where to get it.


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    #12968217 - 07/28/10 08:07 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i just like the idea of smoking bomb weed in a coffee shop.


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    #12968218 - 07/28/10 08:07 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Hahaha well guys, I'm from Amsterdam, and I've been to Cali, and Cali weed has Formula: 0 on Dam weed.

You guys probably go to all the tourist shops when here, I have never been to one myself, but I am pretty sure the stuff you get there is pretty crappy. One shop you can't go wrong with is the Greenhouse. It has several chapters throughout amsterdam, and the stuff you can buy there is simply the best I have ever smoked. (apart from some fine homegrown I got from a squatter in the western harbours in amsterdam)


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    #12968243 - 07/28/10 08:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Hahaha well guys, I'm from Cali, and I've been to Amsterdam, and Dam weed has Formula: 0 on Cali weed.

Hate to mock but for seriously, you always have to be a local to get the best shit, and Dutch cannabis aficionados (myself included) will generally tell you that the best of Cali is greater than the best of Dam.

It only makes sense. I mean, did the counterculture get kicked off in Amsterdam or California? It's nothing to be ashamed of, it's not like Amsterdam has BAD weed, but California is the capital. :shrug:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #12968260 - 07/28/10 08:16 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
Hahaha well guys, I'm from Cali, and I've been to Amsterdam, and Dam weed has Formula: 0 on Cali weed.

Hate to mock but for seriously, you always have to be a local to get the best shit, and Dutch cannabis aficionados (myself included) will generally tell you that the best of Cali is greater than the best of Dam.

It only makes sense. I mean, did the counterculture get kicked off in Amsterdam or California? It's nothing to be ashamed of, it's not like Amsterdam has BAD weed, but California is the capital. :shrug:



hahaha funny guy. anyway, I understand the situation you guys are in, with all the best weed being seperated from you by an atlantic ocean and all. I have quite a lot of friends in cali, and what they showed me was, according to them, some of the best cali had to offer. I wasn't much impressed. I mean; it was ok, but I estimate it at about 1/3 of the best amsterdam haze strength.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: VisionaryFlicker]
    #12968272 - 07/28/10 08:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I like how you have absolute faith in your friends to smoke you out with THE BEST WEED EVER GROWN the one time you smoke with them, but hey, it's not like we're ever going to settle this unless we start mailing weed to one another. :shrug:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #12968285 - 07/28/10 08:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

or housing swap.


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: Alabama Slim]
    #12968321 - 07/28/10 08:27 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

everyone just seems to be saying the place they live has the best weed.

egos:facepalm:


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Re: California weed vs Amsterdam [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #12968324 - 07/28/10 08:27 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)