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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: nicebuds13]
    #13005940 - 08/05/10 08:02 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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well am new to this furum or any furum come to think of it , and i would just like to say hello to u all. well i have never been into mushrooms before but for some reason i have got mushrooms on the brain , iam totally obsesed at the min, and am going out in about 5 mins to c if i can find any as i live on a canal boat in the middle of nowhere and the field right by me i found some last year. so if i find any i will let u no . hope all your picking is fruitful .




Welcome, i'm new to this forum too and this will be my first season hunting alone but i'm in a great spot so really excited. I got mushrooms on the brain too, it's really strange almost like some sort of calling :mushroom2:
Glad some of you guys are getting lots of rain, we are not getting a lot here and its rather dry but hopefully that will change soon. I was going to head up local the mountain on saturday but depends if we get rain


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: spectralis]
    #13006212 - 08/05/10 09:35 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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This guy http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12989970/page/3
holds the record with 4 Libcaps



go on lad! gonna try and beat it saturday!


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #13006613 - 08/05/10 10:55 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yes! nice! i'm gonna wait a week or two before i stat lookin!!! but i am determined to find some cyans this year!! wish me luck!!


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: m-d-m-a]
    #13006901 - 08/05/10 11:46 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Wawawewa! End of July and they're popping up already.  I'm impressed.  Ahh, the joys of a completely average Summer (well, here in Northern UK anyway).  Nice finds, time for me to go for a long wander in the fields :laugh:.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: m-d-m-a]
    #13006908 - 08/05/10 11:47 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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m-d-m-a said:
yes! nice! i'm gonna wait a week or two before i stat lookin!!! but i am determined to find some cyans this year!! wish me luck!!



I was looking for them too.  Then was informed they don't grow in cold climate i.e. the U.k :mad:
Sounds right


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: gnome4766]
    #13007360 - 08/05/10 01:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Psilocybe cyanescens DOES grow in the UK from woodchips. (The kind found around flower beds.)



A different species called Panaeolus cyanescens (= Copelandia cyanescens) does not, and only grows in tropical climates from dung.


They both contain psilocybin but have very different appearances and habitats. Hope that helps to clear up any confusion!


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: Asht0n]
    #13007414 - 08/05/10 01:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i have not even gone out and looked yet here in the PNW, it has been to hot and dry where i am at but this thread has got me anxious for what is to come in a couple months, can't wait to get out there pick'n:mushroom2:


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: aamon]
    #13007861 - 08/05/10 03:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Good info Ashton.  Thanks for clearing that up


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: Asht0n]
    #13008160 - 08/05/10 04:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Psilocybe cyanescens DOES grow in the UK from woodchips. (The kind found around flower beds.)




If I found some of these, how many would I have to eat to get the same effects as about 50 liberty caps? I know they vary in size and weight but approximately? Are they the same strength per gram or are they stronger/weaker?

I'm sure I saw some last year but didn't bother picking them because I was only just getting familiar with liberty caps, so I wanted to concentrate on them alone. But I think I might branch out a bit this season.

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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: Psilocypher]
    #13008177 - 08/05/10 04:30 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think they're a bit stronger (not much) per gram.. watch out for deadly lookalikes


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: spectralis]
    #13008246 - 08/05/10 04:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks. Yea I will. Do you know the names of these lookalikes? And do they grown in the same places as cyans?


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: spectralis]
    #13008309 - 08/05/10 04:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone worry about the class "A" status of actives while picking?

I pick edibles and haven't touched lib caps for a few years, but I have been approached by landowners, dogwalkers etc several times and been accused of looking for psil. species though, I have a shady aura or something..

I always pick on public land but some people are just too nosey.. In the good old days there were no mobiles so you didn't really have to worry about people calling the fuzz in the middle of nowhere, also shrooms were semi-legal a few years back.. good old loopholes.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: Psilocypher]
    #13008330 - 08/05/10 05:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Galerina marginata - contains amatoxins like destoying angels etc.
I'm not sure about the strength of cyanescens  - http://www.chezshaw.demon.co.uk/work/research/woodchips/woodchips.html ; page says 'they pack 5 times the alkaloids of semilanceata' unless he's talking per shroom or other alkaloids beside psilocin/psilocybin


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: egodeathflux]
    #13008435 - 08/05/10 05:25 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone worry about the class "A" status of actives while picking?





Just chuck 'em down. A man standing next to a pile of picked mushrooms is very hard to form as the basis for a conviction. Different if they find a load in your house, too, or on your camera.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: elprawn]
    #13008555 - 08/05/10 05:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Nice finds with the Libs.... Great to be seeing them again. Hopefully I will find some Psilocybe cyanescens this year too.... all i need to do is check my woodchip patch :P


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: Psilocypher]
    #13010504 - 08/06/10 01:30 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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If I found some of these, how many would I have to eat to get the same effects as about 50 liberty caps? I know they vary in size and weight but approximately? Are they the same strength per gram or are they stronger/weaker?



Honestly I don't know as I rarely weigh liberty caps.

From what I've read, fresh Psilocybe cyanescens has a greater proportion of psilocin which is unstable over time, so their potency diminishes faster than P. semilanceata which contains mostly psilocybin/no psilocin.

So cyans might be more potent when they are freshly picked but libs will store better. Not a definitive answer but it's my best guess. Both species are remarkably strong.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: Asht0n]
    #13010751 - 08/06/10 03:37 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Personally if I found three or four now I wouldn't pick them but instead leave them to go through their life cycle and drop plenty of spores!


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: egodeathflux]
    #13010977 - 08/06/10 06:37 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone worry about the class "A" status of actives while picking?

I pick edibles and haven't touched lib caps for a few years, but I have been approached by landowners, dogwalkers etc several times and been accused of looking for psil. species though, I have a shady aura or something..

I always pick on public land but some people are just too nosey.. In the good old days there were no mobiles so you didn't really have to worry about people calling the fuzz in the middle of nowhere, also shrooms were semi-legal a few years back.. good old loopholes.



Good point, i think it's sometimes easy to forget about the class A status at times especially during a exciting find. It's not something i would worry about though as long as you discreet & make sure the area is quiet. The only thing SWIM would have to be careful of in my area is not to drop them all over the main road on the way home :eek:


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: jamster78]
    #13011023 - 08/06/10 07:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Im deffo gonna try my hardest to find Psilocybe cyanescens this year i tried last year but failed miserably :frown:


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Re: UK Liberty Cap season 2010 starts now! [Re: FungusFred]
    #13011076 - 08/06/10 07:33 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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First time hunter here, been hunting twice and found twice but i dont think they were magic. im excited that people have found liberty caps! gives me confidence for this thursday! has anyone ever found liberty caps in a graveyard?




yes check the graveyard,they are exellent places to find libs,lawns to as they are well mantained.

i often get just as mutch,somtimes more from private lawns and sutch than i do from the country.

the only reason animals help for libs is because they keep the grass short,well mantained land and even freshley grown turf can be exellent.


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