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InvisibleXibalba
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An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors
    #1295918 - 02/10/03 09:43 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Read and get mad:

"...the addiction to marijuana by our youth exceeds their addiction rates for alcohol, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, ecstacy and all other illegal drugs combined."

Well, this is what we're up against.

The War on Drugs will get worse before it gets better; and it looks like the pot smokers are to be the next targeted group. You've seen the ads- marijuana pays Osama Bin Laden's salary, marijuana shoots your son in the head, marijuana impregnates your daughter, marijuana runs over little kids on bikes. They haven't gone this far since the 1940s; and I see this recent flood of propaganda as building up voter support among middle-aged middle America prior to the passage of even stricter posession laws and the mass arrests of stoners.




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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: Xibalba]
    #1296112 - 02/10/03 10:51 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

and NORML's response:
http://www.norml.org/pdf_files/your_gov_is_lying.pdf

they did a good job, methinks.

the question is, which one is more believable?


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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: ]
    #1296117 - 02/10/03 10:53 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

the question is, which one will more people read? the more important question than that? which one will more people who are undecided on this issue read? i think the former.


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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: Xibalba]
    #1296534 - 02/10/03 01:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I don't believe it will get worse before it gets better.

This is the act of a desperate regime fighting a loosing battle. Very few people are actually buying these ads. The ones that do already believed that pot turns kids into mass murderers.

Anybody that was on the fence on the marijuana issue will see these commercials, and gain a deeper understanding of how full of shit the government is on the issue.

They are killing their own credibility, and wasting their resources in the process.


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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: Xibalba]
    #1296537 - 02/10/03 01:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: Learyfan]
    #1297111 - 02/10/03 04:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Haha! Nice animation!
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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: Xibalba]
    #1299526 - 02/11/03 11:01 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

To sum it up: Lots of people are using marijuana.

They fail to point out that lots of bad things are NOT happening as a result.


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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1299559 - 02/11/03 11:11 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

I don't believe it will get worse before it gets better.

This is the act of a desperate regime fighting a loosing battle. Very few people are actually buying these ads. The ones that do already believed that pot turns kids into mass murderers.

Anybody that was on the fence on the marijuana issue will see these commercials, and gain a deeper understanding of how full of shit the government is on the issue.

They are killing their own credibility, and wasting their resources in the process. 




Soooooooo true!! :smile:
They wouldn't crack down on marijuana users, cuz all the jails will be full.  Too many smoke the herb to arrest them all, and if they try it should be a civil war!


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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1299662 - 02/11/03 11:47 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i was recently at a Super Bowl Party held by some students attending a liberal arts college. the "marijuana gets your daughter pregnant" commercial came on.  we all laughed. then we all got kind of disturbed.  if only everyone reacted this way.  :frown:


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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1299724 - 02/11/03 12:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

They won't need to put them in jail. Just giving them a criminal record will ruin their ability to get a good job or get credit for anything. It's possible to seize their property without trial, take away their driver's license- even take away their children. Then you've got fines, probation, forced drug-rehab programs...
Marijuana's still in Schedule 1 and the laws are already in place for the federal government to totally fuck over someone's life for smoking it IF they decided to aggressively enforce them.

It's basically a cultural crime. Pot's the most widely used illegal drug so it's an easy test to what side of the law you're on. People who do not, have not, would not smoke marijuana make up a certain culture, and people who do are all to some degree or another a member of the "counterculture." Remember, if we're not with Bush we're with the terrorists.
And it's likely the pot-smoking, draft-dodging neo-hippies are the people attending the anti-war protests, and who some have already suggested we 'flag' as 'possible traitors'.

Also, if you think that last year's anti-drug ads- that you buying a bag of weed is supporting foreign terrorists- accurately represent what the Govt. believes (or wants its people to believe...)
Then add to that the fact that they're trying to get a new bill passed that broadens 'terrorist activities' to include fundraising for terrorism,
and allows Americans to lose their citizenship for supporting terrorists or belonging to a 'terrorist group-' (Cannabis buyer's club? NORML?)
Combined with our existing legislation that lets suspected terrorist non-citizens to be tried in military courts and detained secretly without bail at undisclosed locations...

Well... Ok, maybe nothing's going to happen. But the way things are falling into place, it could.

The federal government already knows you use illegal drugs- a quick warrantless no-knock search of your home should make that readily apparent- (You have Grateful Dead posters? Beaded curtains? Hemp clothes...?) and once the T.I.A office gets fully underway, they'll have the phone tapes and email logs to prove it. And they're giving themselves so much power that they could legally destroy you for it -especially if you've ever grown or sold anything.

You would hope they'd be too busy with Iraq and North Korea to worry about some harmless (though unpatriotic) stoners, but a time of war is actually the best time to start picking off the undesirable back home. When 'national security' is at stake, they can get away with a lot more.

I personally don't think they're going to try to move into the endgame of the Drug War (which never really was about drugs...) Not right now, anyway. But would even the resulting civil war be a deterrent? Bush is still pushing ahead on his Iraq war when the UN, NATO, a majority of civilians in all other countries and a large minority of his own people oppose it.

Just doesn't make me feel too comfortable.



Edited by Xibalba (02/11/03 12:59 PM)


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Re: An Open Letter to America's Prosecutors [Re: Xibalba]
    #1299862 - 02/11/03 12:52 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

harmless (though unpatriotic) stoners






this is one of the main problems. Many young drug users don't vote and most narrow minded middle-aged people are.


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