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YsB
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First cake slow birthing + added question
#12956445 - 07/26/10 03:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not an expert (yet) since this is my very first PF-tek cake finally in the fruiting box. Looks okay as far as I'm concerned:
 The only question in my head is if any of this look like something that will turn to a pinhead or hyphal knot??



It's sitting in there for more than a week by now but I dont really see any sign of development. The humidity is constantly 99%, airpump working non-stop and its 77 degrees inside.
Just tell me everything will be fine :-)
Edited by YsB (07/31/10 05:19 AM)
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: YsB]
#12956709 - 07/26/10 04:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fan moar.
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YsB
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: Doc_T]
#12957131 - 07/26/10 05:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do u mean fan more?
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: YsB]
#12957345 - 07/26/10 06:28 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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YsB said: Do u mean fan more?
do you mean 'you'?
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: k00laid]
#12957383 - 07/26/10 06:35 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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k00laid said:
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YsB said: Do u mean fan more?
do you mean 'you'?
LOL...
Did you soak the cake in water for 24hours before placing in the FC?...Im pretty sure you are supposed to soak it for 24 hours, then roll in vermiculite and then fruit in the FC...
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YsB
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: k00laid]
#12957455 - 07/26/10 06:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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k00laid: I did not correct him, just asked, because I was confused. But man, ur mean!
Killuminati: oppps, I didnt know that. Do you think I should go for it?
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: YsB]
#12957738 - 07/26/10 07:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well,...im no mushroom growing expert since i got nuthin but contams...but idk, If it hasn't produced even any pins yet and if the mycelium seems pretty dry, then i'd say soak in water for 12-24hours then try again
And "fan moar"
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Thanks for the advice, I just sunk the cake under water and 2moro will do the rolling also. And will fan it moar than ever. :-)
I really think contam is place-specific, because since I started this hobby I tend to become less and less careful about sterility and haven't met any contam so far. Or just lucky me...
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: YsB]
#12960202 - 07/27/10 06:00 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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YsB said: k00laid: I did not correct him, just asked, because I was confused. But man, ur mean!
ya ok.
aaaaaaanyways. a dunk and roll will help you immensely. what is your misting and fanning regiment if i may ask?
hint hint if you dont have one start misting and fanning.
fan more than you mist. water evaporating off your cakes is like #1 pinning trigger.
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: k00laid]
#12960264 - 07/27/10 07:07 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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a dunk and roll will help you immensely. what is your misting and fanning regiment if i may ask?
hint hint if you dont have one start misting and fanning.
fan more than you mist. water evaporating off your cakes is like #1 pinning trigger.
Hey, thanks for the hints. At the moment my misting is perfect as the humidity is always over 99%, the digital hygrometer stops measuring after a while, I guess it's probe cannot stand the extreme conditions? Perlit on the bottom sprinkled with h2o2 twice daily and there is a (kinda weak) air pump going on 24/7 into a bowl of water. I made only one hole as an exit for the CO2 maybe that's not enough?
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: YsB]
#12960320 - 07/27/10 07:44 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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YsB said: the digital hygrometer stops measuring after a while, I guess it's probe cannot stand the extreme conditions?
Don't leave it in there all the time, it will die. Use it to check, then back into room air.
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: Doc_T]
#12960899 - 07/27/10 11:04 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't leave it in there all the time, it will die. Use it to check, then back into room air.
Yeah, I was afraid so, so I did...
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: YsB]
#12961326 - 07/27/10 12:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought the FC that RogerRabbit makes in his vids, has holes like around the whole container...But as long as you keep it very fanned and aired out it should be fine...
And about my contams...yup its my house...I live in my moms got 2 dogs and like over 5 cats...Nothing but dust and hair is everywhere..So bad to the point, when some sun shines through a window, and reveals the dust in the air...It makes me want to not breath because every breath is like a lungfull of hair and dust... ...And we smoke ALOT of weed 24-7 in the house, so i'd have to make a dust-free/smoke-free room to isolate ANY types of fungi
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LOL I couldn't live like that. Not that pet person, however I love dogs n cats. Actually that lots of dirt is good for your immune system (unless you allergic to it) and you will have less chance to catch diseases.
As for the shrooms I know this is a crumb of comfort.
Edited by YsB (07/27/10 02:53 PM)
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: YsB]
#12963888 - 07/27/10 09:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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YsB said: LOL I couldn't live like that. Not that pet person, however I love dogs n cats. Actually that lots of dirt is good for your immune system (unless you allergic to it) and you will have less chance to catch diseases.
As for the shrooms I know this is a crumb of comfort. 
Yea....i don't think i will ever grow mushrooms because my animals...This $50 i have right now i was thinking about buying spores with,...BUT, i see nothing but green mold coming from that
It would be a waste of money on spores, so im buying 400grams of mimosa powder tomorrow! Can't wait
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Your cake looks fine. Dunking is great but not mandatory.
It does look like it is developing the little fingers of mycelium....I think that this is why Doc suggested that you need to fan *more*. And the lore has it that evaporation from the cakes is a prime pinning motivator.
One thing Doc, if you are going to use slang, then why not lose some letters. moar takes just as long to type. ...how about "mo"? Just kidding.
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: Javadog]
#12965360 - 07/28/10 05:31 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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It would be a waste of money on spores, so im buying 400grams of mimosa powder tomorrow! Can't wait
Why don't you go hunting if you "live in oregon it contains the top 3 most potent mushrooms in the world and they grow like grass." ??
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It does look like it is developing the little fingers of mycelium....I think that this is why Doc suggested that you need to fan *more*. And the lore has it that evaporation from the cakes is a prime pinning motivator.
One thing Doc, if you are going to use slang, then why not lose some letters. moar takes just as long to type. ...how about "mo"? Just kidding.
Okay, now I officialy understand that it wasn't a mistype but a slang. So now I also understand k00laid's sarcasm. Sorry guys, my first language is not english. That is why I need to confess I have no clue what do you mean about "evaporation off/from the cake"
Could someone be kind to shed some light on this?
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Re: First cake slow birthing [Re: YsB]
#12965378 - 07/28/10 05:46 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry about the slang.
Evaporation is a pinning trigger. But a cake is small, so you must replace the water.
Do not keep it soaked, let it dry a little, then re-wet.
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YsB
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Thankyouall [Re: YsB]
#12980002 - 07/31/10 05:15 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wanted to thank everyone who took the effort and replied my question. With following your instructions I can see something definitely developing on my cake.
However, I have a new question 
I was experimenting a little. Went out the backgarden to collect some soil. Sterilized it, mixed with vermiculite and of course with some mycelium on barley (couldn't find rye in London). The mycelium seems loving it. The only thing I don't know when is it time to put to FC? Do I have to wait until it's fully colonized or enough to wait until the surface covered?


Edited by YsB (07/31/10 06:07 AM)
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Re: Thankyouall [Re: YsB]
#12980057 - 07/31/10 06:00 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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YsB said: The only thing I don't know when is it time to put to FC?
When it is ready to start fruiting.
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