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Offlineenotake2
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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1289886 - 02/07/03 08:10 PM (21 years, 28 days ago)

From my work in mental health I am usually inclined to beleive the victim. People rarely lie about this stuff, especially kids. I do think the 20 million payout was a bit strange too. If it is true, it is the sort of stuff I think the media should say if it prevents other kids from being abused. Anyway you are entitled to your opinion.


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Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pacman affected our generation as kids, we'd all be running around in a darkened room, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.

"Being bitter and hateful is like drinking a vial of poison and hoping the other person gets sick" FreakQLibrium

"My motto from here on out is: If someone or something (including me) in my life is conducting themselves in such a way that they can be seen on Jerry Springer, it's time to take out the garbage!!! When you stop taking their behaviour personally and see their antics as a true reflection on their character, it becomes absolutely nauseating." Anon. on abusive relationships.

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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: enotake2]
    #1289979 - 02/07/03 09:27 PM (21 years, 28 days ago)

all the kid said is that he saw his penis, so yah, i beleive him too.
but so what? that doesnt mean he jizzed on him or tried to touch him in inappropriate ways or ANYTHING
it doesnt even mean he had any intention of exposing himself.
true, a man is expected to cunduct himself more responsibly around children, and perhaps its no excuse that MJ doesnt realize hes an adult.
but this in NO was at all identifies him as a pedophile.
im not saying hes NOT a pedophile, hell, you might be a pedophile. im just saying that logically you cant assume that he IS a pedophile just because he MIGHT be.
are you saying that a young person has never seen your penis? in some cultures evryone has a dick out. are they pedophiles? they dont even recognize insanity as i understand it.
maybe they took a whiz in the bushes. guys take whizs all the time. maybe the kid was curious and took a peek.
and kids lie ALL THE TIME!
especially when a lawyer tells them theres millions of $$$ in it for them and all the shit theyed ever want.
you cant assume one persons a monster because he thinks hes a child and then think a child is innocent because kids dont lie. besides, i dont see how a penis, being visable constitutes sexual exploitation of children, theres no evidance that he showed it for self-gratification and it hasnt happened repediately.
but then you can demonize anyone, youed look alot worse if you trusted someone terrible than if you just beleived the media percecuting the innocent.
beleive NOTHING you hear in the entertainment news. its all BS and pointless for that matter.
i will admit tho that i feel very bad for micheal. he is a twisted and miserable wretch. however, for all the good he does in the community im pretty impressed, he can hardly take care of himself but he does loads of charities and fundraisers and makes a real difference. hes not all over the news about it either. if anything he avoids the public eye. because obviously people think hes a pedophile.
if people thought i was a pedophile id hide too.

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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1290003 - 02/07/03 09:38 PM (21 years, 28 days ago)

Hey, I taught re child abuse and the law for a first yr psychology unit at university and the evidence is kids rarely lie. I don't know the details. If it is true the kid just saw his penis I don't really see that's a problem either. It depends how jacko exposed it. By the way, I'm a woman, so I won't be exposing my penis to anyone, Mich. :smile: 


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Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pacman affected our generation as kids, we'd all be running around in a darkened room, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.

"Being bitter and hateful is like drinking a vial of poison and hoping the other person gets sick" FreakQLibrium

"My motto from here on out is: If someone or something (including me) in my life is conducting themselves in such a way that they can be seen on Jerry Springer, it's time to take out the garbage!!! When you stop taking their behaviour personally and see their antics as a true reflection on their character, it becomes absolutely nauseating." Anon. on abusive relationships.

Edited by enotake2 (02/07/03 09:45 PM)

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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1290180 - 02/08/03 12:03 AM (21 years, 28 days ago)



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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: enotake2]
    #1290183 - 02/08/03 03:52 AM (21 years, 28 days ago)

wanna see MY penis? >:) WOOOO

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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: enotake2]
    #1290233 - 02/08/03 04:30 AM (21 years, 28 days ago)

I just read half the statement given by the 13 year old that brought charges against MJ. Its thesmokinggun.com. Go read it and tell me if it sounds like something a 13 year old wrote.

It doesnt. Its incredibly graphic and I couldnt even finish it because it was so disturbing. If its true, Michael Jackson is one sick son of a fucking bitch. But if you dont think some kids parents would lie and make that up for $20mil, you're fooling yourself.

Why would he pay it, though? I'd say he probably had some pedophiliac desires towards the kid, or kids in general. And being delusional and neurotic and as wacky as he is, he probably felt guilty and payed it. Theres a number of possibilities.

I wouldnt be surprised if hes a pedophile... but a vast majority of pedophiles never even touch a child. So there you go.

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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: ]
    #1291331 - 02/08/03 02:30 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

If a kid is not capable of writing a statement, a representative (eg psychologist) can write it for them or someone else can help the kid write it, so that the statement is clear and still reflects what happened.


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Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pacman affected our generation as kids, we'd all be running around in a darkened room, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.

"Being bitter and hateful is like drinking a vial of poison and hoping the other person gets sick" FreakQLibrium

"My motto from here on out is: If someone or something (including me) in my life is conducting themselves in such a way that they can be seen on Jerry Springer, it's time to take out the garbage!!! When you stop taking their behaviour personally and see their antics as a true reflection on their character, it becomes absolutely nauseating." Anon. on abusive relationships.

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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: enotake2]
    #1291484 - 02/08/03 04:15 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

I couldn;t care less about this man.

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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: Prometheus_Unbound]
    #1292057 - 02/08/03 08:07 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

I do not think Michael Jackson even thinks of sex in the same way as a normal adult. So what if he is lying about his plastic surgery. Many people lie about cosmetic work they have had done. It really is not fair to call him a liar based on something that is of a personal issue based on looks. His ideas about love seem innocent enough very child like etc. I really do not care much about him personally, I just think it is strange that people in general are so concerned with him and celebrates in general. It is the same old mainstream story, my life sucks, I am bored, I want to pick on somebody because they can create their own worlds and I can not. Granted if he actually committed this crime he should be held accountable, and it should be proved in a court of law, not judged by a television show for idiots ( I must be an idiot I watched) . Anyway celebrates are usually boring and their lives should not be a substantial part of our culture. What world am I living in?
My Own .

Edited by hawk (02/08/03 08:27 PM)

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Re: the soul of micheal jackson [Re: hawk]
    #1293142 - 02/09/03 08:54 AM (21 years, 26 days ago)

right on.

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