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OfflineNocturnal Zooms
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20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! + Live Full Trip Report
    #12914913 - 07/18/10 10:40 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Before everyone says "20 is too much!", I think these are fairly weak. From the same guy I took 10 and had mild colour intensification and a bit of vasoconstriction, but no trip at all.

So I removed the outer shell (weather that does anything or not, I don't care, took 10 minutes so either way no big deal)
Crushed the seeds with a hammer, because I don't have a grinder.

And just swallowed my first 1/4 of the ground up seeds. Going to take each 1/4 every fifteen minutes as I have read about.

Probably will smoke some bud to ease nausea if I feel it..


I had been disappointed with my first experience but after reading a few more posts on here about them I thought I should give them another chance and at least report back to shroomery so that anyone looking for more info on them has at least another experience/trip report.


Ill be back with any big changes!

Report (going to update as the trip goes along):

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Doses:
T = 0:00 to 0:25 - 15 Crushed HBWR seeds.
T + 3:00 - 200mg MDMA - Parachuted.
T + 8:00 - .5G AA bud

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T = 0:00 - Swallow 5 ground seeds with water.

T + 0:10 - Swallow 5 more ground seeds with water.

T + 0:25 - Swallow 5 more ground seeds with water.  -- Going to hold of at 15 until I feel I should do more.

T + 0:45 - Stomach feels a bit weird. Not nausea, more like too acidic, if that could describe it. I'm starting to feel a bit slower, not a normal mind state, but probably wouldn't be noticeable if I didn't know I took the seeds. Small headache too, going to take an aspirin.

T + 1:10 - Am feeling really lazy. I don't want to do anything, even get up to change the channel. Nothing else going on but that... just feeling out of it.

T + 1:40 - Feeling nicer. No nausea. No weed yet. Kind of a slight mental and body high. Been just laying on the couch watching TV. There is nothing describable of how I feel, it's just THERE, like more aware, a slight trip mindset where I feel connected to nature and other people.

T + 2:00 - Legs feeling tingly, but no pain like I had last time I did HBWR. Looked in the mirror and my pupils are HUGE. Holy fuck! Bigger than I have ever seen with shrooms or molly. At least it lets me know something is working!

T + 2:30 - Getting some nice trails! Still feeling the same as before. Noticing some warping and fluid movement in static objects. Such as this webpage. Things are slightly stretching and compressing, but so little that I wonder if it is actually happening or not.

T + 3:00 - Trails getting better. Noticing more intense warping. Just dropped 200mg MDMA.

T + 5:00 - Seeing nice patters on the road outside. Similar to what I see on shrooms. It is the road over my balcony so it was nice to have something exactly as I had seen on shrooms and then LSA and compare.

T + 8:00 - Have been coming down over the past hour or so. I couldn't be bothered to update.. it was weird. I was started having some signs of a bad trip about 6 hours in, and I didn't know what to do, but I started eating some fruit and OMG it instantly made me happier. When I stopped I started getting bad signs again, so I just kept eating fruit. I think it helped me keep my mind on something else. Just smoked a joint, haven't smoked in a week (trying to stop) so I am feeling a nice high. Put me in a better mood too.
THe MDMA didn't have any noticable effects. Could be because I rolled hard friday and sat, so I assume that is why.

In conclusion, I ended up only eating 15 seeds, and next time I would probably try 20, BUT LET ME REMIND YOU, these are fairly weak seeds. I know this because I started with small doses and kept track of how I felt. It was a pleasant trip and I am glad I tried them again.

I hope this provides some interesting info to anyone looking to learn more about HBWR and LSA.

Good vibes!


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Never abuse your substances so they lose their magic.

If you're going to trip alone, set goals for what you want to accomplish with your mind expanding drugs. It might sound stupid, but even on small goals you are able to explore deep into your mind the way you feel.

(written on molly, but it sounded amazing when I wrote it!)


Edited by Nocturnal Zooms (07/18/10 07:15 PM)


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: Nocturnal Zooms]
    #12914993 - 07/18/10 11:05 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

20 blew my fucking mind and I spread them out throughout the night. Cant imagine taking that many all at once.


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: ShibaSpeak]
    #12915055 - 07/18/10 11:25 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yea I stopped at 15, going to wait another hour or so before I take the rest.


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If you're going to trip alone, set goals for what you want to accomplish with your mind expanding drugs. It might sound stupid, but even on small goals you are able to explore deep into your mind the way you feel.

(written on molly, but it sounded amazing when I wrote it!)


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: Nocturnal Zooms]
    #12915072 - 07/18/10 11:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Pro tip if your near any vitamin stores Yohimbe counter acts the constricting effects very well


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: ShibaSpeak]
    #12915148 - 07/18/10 12:01 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

THC also has vasodialation effects, so I will probably just stick with my weed if I feel uncomfortable. But good tip, thanks!


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Never abuse your substances so they lose their magic.

If you're going to trip alone, set goals for what you want to accomplish with your mind expanding drugs. It might sound stupid, but even on small goals you are able to explore deep into your mind the way you feel.

(written on molly, but it sounded amazing when I wrote it!)


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: Nocturnal Zooms]
    #12915186 - 07/18/10 12:11 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Feeling pretty good right now. Kind of like how you feel on shrooms when you walk around. I find I walk SOOOO SLOWLY on shrooms because I am trying to take in everything I am seeing.

I am thinking I should take some MDMA I have lying around, any advice on this?

Rolled last night, so I know it wont be as intense, but figure it would be a nice compliment.

Suggestions?


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:mushroom2::rasta:

Never abuse your substances so they lose their magic.

If you're going to trip alone, set goals for what you want to accomplish with your mind expanding drugs. It might sound stupid, but even on small goals you are able to explore deep into your mind the way you feel.

(written on molly, but it sounded amazing when I wrote it!)


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: Nocturnal Zooms]
    #12915560 - 07/18/10 01:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Took the molly because no one decided to reply :frown:

I'll keep updating!


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Never abuse your substances so they lose their magic.

If you're going to trip alone, set goals for what you want to accomplish with your mind expanding drugs. It might sound stupid, but even on small goals you are able to explore deep into your mind the way you feel.

(written on molly, but it sounded amazing when I wrote it!)


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: Nocturnal Zooms]
    #12915573 - 07/18/10 02:00 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Good vibes man. I didnt have bud for my journey and it was amazing. :sun:


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: ShibaSpeak]
    #12915624 - 07/18/10 02:11 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I wish i had bud..and MDMA.
Time for a drug hunt. oh and good vibes:trippinballs:


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: SalviNate]
    #12915650 - 07/18/10 02:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Good vibeez)))))). Keep postin:tongue2:


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: orange-fuzz]
    #12915783 - 07/18/10 03:00 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Never took MDMA with LSA...would probably be a lot of fun, but I always wanted to save my precious X for the 'premium' psychs. I've always thought a real fortunate (I say fortunate because sometimes I just get lucky and have almost zero body load) LSA trip has some candyflipping-like traits anyway.

20 seeds is for sure a lot though. I take 12 for my trips and usually have a couple pretty rough patches dealing with the body load. The trip itself is always good though. Less visual and more mental than shrooms/LSD IME.

Overall I find LSA a valuable alternative for deep tripping when I have no shrooms, but for purely recreational purposes I never found enough to love about LSA....MDMA can change everything though! Hope you are having a good time man.


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: LazyCrash]
    #12915870 - 07/18/10 03:30 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah Erowid put a warning on one of the stories where the dude took 25 so Id say 20s a lot :tongue2:


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: ShibaSpeak]
    #12916635 - 07/18/10 06:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Final update. Almost totally off it now.

thanks for the good vibes! Love shroomery when im trippin.

Cheers!


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Never abuse your substances so they lose their magic.

If you're going to trip alone, set goals for what you want to accomplish with your mind expanding drugs. It might sound stupid, but even on small goals you are able to explore deep into your mind the way you feel.

(written on molly, but it sounded amazing when I wrote it!)


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: Nocturnal Zooms]
    #12916649 - 07/18/10 06:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

How was it? That was a hefty dose. FYI the ones I received from IAmShaman were top notch if you feel like taking another journey. :thumbup:


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: ShibaSpeak]
    #12916685 - 07/18/10 06:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like you had a good time, how was it?


I've been thinking about combining HBWR and MDMA lately, but I've never liked HBWR, haven't really ever got a good trip out of it. Always had a ton of nausea, and it would feel like the effects were starting to really come on, and then just die off all of a sudden and I would feel myself coming down.


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: kush420]
    #12916711 - 07/18/10 06:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

kush420 said:
Sounds like you had a good time, how was it?


I've been thinking about combining HBWR and MDMA lately, but I've never liked HBWR, haven't really ever got a good trip out of it. Always had a ton of nausea, and it would feel like the effects were starting to really come on, and then just die off all of a sudden and I would feel myself coming down.



Best advice I can give is to eat them on an empty stomach and then force yourself to eat some food right before its about to hit.


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: ShibaSpeak]
    #12916755 - 07/18/10 07:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Trip was really nice. Definitely going to do it again.

Decent shroom like visuals, looking at the blue sky was great and saw some fractals.


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Never abuse your substances so they lose their magic.

If you're going to trip alone, set goals for what you want to accomplish with your mind expanding drugs. It might sound stupid, but even on small goals you are able to explore deep into your mind the way you feel.

(written on molly, but it sounded amazing when I wrote it!)


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: Nocturnal Zooms]
    #12918016 - 07/19/10 12:39 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Good enough that your guna put report up??


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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: orange-fuzz] * 1
    #12918619 - 07/19/10 08:08 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

To eliminate nausea:
Ginter root and/or cannabis
To reduce/eliminate sedation:
Peppermint tea
To enhance visual aspect and add energy to the trip:
Kola nut

See you on the flip side!

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Re: 20 HBWR for a Sunday Trip! [Re: Ferdinando]
    #12921138 - 07/19/10 08:17 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Eh I figured that is good enough for a report. I meant for this to be for someone wanted to learn about the drug and they can see very specific effects, rather than read an essay of what I did.

But I am feeling great today, so will probably do all 20 this weekend and write one up!


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Never abuse your substances so they lose their magic.

If you're going to trip alone, set goals for what you want to accomplish with your mind expanding drugs. It might sound stupid, but even on small goals you are able to explore deep into your mind the way you feel.

(written on molly, but it sounded amazing when I wrote it!)


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