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    #12898031 - 07/14/10 01:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

edit: POST EDITED.
attempting with jungle spice now, approx 100 mg by estimate

i have no scale but i have some pics.
how many mg of dmt do you think this is approximately?
enough to do pharmahuasca heavily mao inhibited with?



Edited by thatiAM (07/21/10 03:19 PM)

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12898042 - 07/14/10 01:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

That may be 50mg IMO I know nothing of pharmahausca.

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12898049 - 07/14/10 01:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i have no idea, but i think its gonna be pretty hard for anyone to have a guess, you know the dosage for dmt is like 20mg or so, i think its less when taken with maio, just google it

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: yoshi]
    #12898062 - 07/14/10 01:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

consistancy of things is why its hard to eyeball. But i have never smoked dmt weighed on a scale. Ide say that is about 25-50mg rannge. If i had that rite now i would just split it in half.

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: shakedown]
    #12898071 - 07/14/10 01:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I would guess around 30 mg.

I'd rather smoke it than try pharma, just because I'm not sure about doses with freebase DMT.

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: Angel_Above]
    #12898256 - 07/14/10 02:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

definitely not enough for pharmahuasca

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: ShroomyTunes]
    #12898279 - 07/14/10 02:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

ok thanks guys i'll use i guess double or triple that amount?

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12898297 - 07/14/10 02:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I would say 27.531 mgs.


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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: AZrooj]
    #12898347 - 07/14/10 02:39 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I suggest using DMT Fumarate for pharma as it is a salt, which makes it a lot easier for your body to digest and get into your system. Usually what works best for me is about 100mg DMT Fumarate + 100 mg Harmine + 100 mg THH (harmine and thh together make a caapi copy).

This produces a very strong experience. The last time I tried this dose I was in complete breakthrough for about 1.5 hours.


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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: AZrooj]
    #12898350 - 07/14/10 02:40 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

also apparently my problem with never being able to break through is smoking not nearly enough.

though i think i would have a tough time smoking 4x that amount and holding it in long enough.  even in my engineered crackpipebong thing i made just for dmt

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12898353 - 07/14/10 02:40 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

kungpow how do you convert freebase to fumarate salt?
i was planning on adding it to some OJ to convert it to citrate? is it really that simple?

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12898454 - 07/14/10 03:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

") Dissolve 100 mg of DMT in 4 ml of warm 91% isopropyl alcohol (about 40 C). NOTE: substitutes that also work include 95% ethanol, 95 % isopropyl alcohol. Hoever 99% does not work. There must be at least 5% water or the fumaric acid in the next step fails to dissolve completely.
2) Add 100 mg of fumaric acid. NOTE: this is excess fumaric acid. We actually only need 31 mg in theory, but we use 100 just to make sure.
3) Evaporate the solution at no hotter than 140 C (DMT fumarate melts at 152 C). NOTE: putting the liquid in a 10 ml beaker on a hotplate set to 100 C with a fan blowing over the liquid works great.
4) When completely dry, we add 10 ml of methyl ethyl ketone and mix. The excess fumaric acid quickly falls to the bottom of the methyl ethyl ketone because it’s insoluble in it.
5) Filter the methyl ethyl ketone to remove the excess fumaric acid.
6) Evaporate the solution at no hotter than 140 C (DMT fumarate melts at 152 C) to give pure DMT fumarate crystals."

that sounds like lots of extra work.  you sure i can't just dissolve it in orange juice or something :P

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12898926 - 07/14/10 04:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You can just dissolve it in orange juice. 25mg of dmt + 130mg of cappi copy had very little visual activity yet a strong annoying sense of unrest coupled with psychedelic/existential thoughts that lasted about 3 hours.


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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12898939 - 07/14/10 04:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

thatiAM said:
also apparently my problem with never being able to break through is smoking not nearly enough.

though i think i would have a tough time smoking 4x that amount and holding it in long enough.  even in my engineered crackpipebong thing i made just for dmt




https://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=2546

You should find all of the info you need in the above link. I actually extract my dmt with an all natural extraction tek that actually yields the fumarate salt. IF you would like to look up some info on it look for the BLAB on the dmt nexus.

I like going that route because then I get some fumarate for pharma then I use the rest to make changa.


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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12900121 - 07/14/10 08:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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ok thanks guys i'll use i guess double or triple that amount?




I would say at least triple...

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12930312 - 07/21/10 01:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i got some jungle spice, didn't recrystallize so it's super gooey.

do you think if i heavily MAOI'd myself and ate about 100+mg of this goo that i'd trip nuuuutz?  would it suck balls?  would it be different from n,n dmt?

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12930444 - 07/21/10 02:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i dont know about the strength but of course it would be different because you are ingesting other chemicals


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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: SummerDaisies]
    #12930483 - 07/21/10 02:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

alright well i think i'm gonna heavily maoi myself, dissolve it in the juice of a lemon or something, and chronicle my adventures in this post or something....

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12930494 - 07/21/10 02:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I can see that going wrong... But have fun anyway :grin::thumbup:


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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12930504 - 07/21/10 02:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i wana watch set up a web cam


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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: nachohippie]
    #12930518 - 07/21/10 02:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i would just smoke it dude...


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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: SummerDaisies]
    #12930528 - 07/21/10 02:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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i would just smoke it dude...




i can always get more to smoke, i've smoked it plenty of times.  i've never tried pharmahuasca.

or pharmajunglespiceahuasca for that matter

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12930539 - 07/21/10 02:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i would just wait for dmt for that and smoke this stuff


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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: SummerDaisies]
    #12930542 - 07/21/10 02:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

and ayachuasca isnt like LSD


not exactly something you take just for recreation usually


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    #12930595 - 07/21/10 02:41 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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i wana watch set up a web cam



Didn't the last time something like that happened end rather badly?


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    #12930664 - 07/21/10 02:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

it's not for recreation - it's for the experience of being anally probed by aliens and nature spirits, communication with higher dimensions and my future self millions/billions of years from now and so on.

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12930796 - 07/21/10 03:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

this is what i use to smoke
it is a crack pipe superglued into a cheap bong.


some of the goo was mixed with the juice of a lemon and the juice of a lime


some harmaline was ingested, hope it was enough for maoi effect.
honestly the only way i see this going bad is if nothing happens whatsoever. 
and even that's not SO bad...

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12930980 - 07/21/10 03:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

drank concoction... it was... oh god :puke:

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12931172 - 07/21/10 04:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

beginning to feel something...
will i be locked forever within a perma half-tripping state of being for the entire trip?

only time will tell. 
i feel almost like vomiting
but i'm super hungry eating a cracker

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12931194 - 07/21/10 04:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Be prepared for that cracker to set the trip into a higher gear (pun intended).

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #12931303 - 07/21/10 04:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

some people take a poop and then immediately forget about it.
they are fools.

a pretty short and low intensity experience, likely due to having way less maoi than i thought.  but still totally worth it
would recommend to others,
would repeat

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12933998 - 07/22/10 04:07 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

What did you actually take?

I can't see pharmahuasca lasting 30 minutes. Or did you take the MAOI then smoke DMT?


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    #12934633 - 07/22/10 09:38 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

lasted longer than 30 min.  i edited the post above after i was almost totally down.  it probably lasted about 3 hours.

i thought i had more maoi than i did.  i drank the harmaline extract and ate the jungle spice dissolved in lemon/lime juice after about 40 min as shown in the pics.

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Re: how much dmt is this approx? [Re: thatiAM]
    #12936528 - 07/22/10 04:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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i drank the harmaline extract and ate the jungle spice dissolved in lemon/lime juice after about 40 min as shown in the pics.




There's your mistake right there.  Should have downed the spice no more than 5 minutes after the harmaline extract for best effect.  Check out the Nexus for the best dosing advice around.

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