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Tranceport
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: ryan0000]
#3768648 - 02/11/05 08:37 PM (19 years, 8 days ago) |
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Here are my thoughts:
Mushrooms are not a recreational drug in a social sense. My feeling is that you never experience the true power of the psychedelic experience until you trip with an experienced trip sitter or only one other experienced partner. When I have tried to take them socially, too much is going on and other peoples' reactions and the general hubbub is too distractive. You never get much out of the trip because as soon as one thing starts to happen in your mind someone else starts talking or doing something and you have to change gears.
All of my mushroom trips have been incredibly beautiful and amazing. I don't know why you want to eat mushrooms, but here are some ideas that might change things for you.
Mushrooms are very introverted and spiritual. With a trusted friend, find a place where you will not be disturbed. Make sure parents or other friends will not drop by. Disconnect the telephone or turn off the ringer. I like to wait until right around twilight when it starts to get dark. Place some votive candles around the room away from anything flammable. Have some incense that is pleasant and not too harsh.
You can't really take other peoples' suggestions for music. I have found that music has a tremendous effect on your trip. For instance, my partner likes rock music when he's tripping but it scares me and makes my trip start to spiral in a negative direction. While coming up you should play something light and happy, whatever you like.
When you near the peak, music needs to be very carefully selected. Something very soothing without heavy beats is perfect. At this point you and your tripping partner might both be lost in your own worlds. Lay back on a couch or mattress under a soft blanket with lots of soft pillows. Then just let your mind go. Close your eyes and watch the most beautiful shimmery closed eye visuals or open them and watch the magic that happens to objects as you stare at them while your mind takes you to fantastic worlds beyond your imagination. May I suggest that if you've never heard of Shpongle's album "Are You Shpongled", please find it. It's some of the most beautiful tripping music ever produced.
After the peak is over then it is fun to interact with your tripping partner. Watch cartoons or a movie with an uplifting theme. May I suggest the movie Baraka. It is a collage of the pictures of humanity set to beautiful music. It covers everything from the miracle of birth to the heart wrenching grief of death from cultures all over the world. Take your tripping partner or trip sitter with you and go outside to experience nature. Trust me on this, you will never look at trees the same way again after you examined one while tripping. If you do go outside, go where there are not crowds of people and you do not need to worry about trying to "hold it all together"
At this point you may want to try some meatier and heavier music that may have a heavier beat. Just a note about music. What I've found is that it is not a good idea to totally change course during a trip. Don't try to go from soothing music and all of a sudden pop in some heavy techno. It can really fuck with the flow of your trip and make things go sour. A good transition from the ambient music of your peak is a cartoon or movie and then to some heavier music.
Most of my fears and anxiety during my trips has come from trying to fight it. When things start go get a bit too strange or intense and you try to regain control that's when the fear and anxiety can start to bother you. When suddenly you get into some really unbelievable thoughts or ideas that might scare you, instead of trying to escape just go with it. See where it will take you. If it's truly uncomfortable then go to the bathroom, go get a drink of water or go to another room for a little while.
I'm sorry to be so wordy, but tripping on mushrooms is so beautiful and amazing that I wish everyone could experience it the way I do. It's so euphoric and warm most of the time. There are times when some of the revelations get kind of scary but even then it's a learning experience.
Of course, all this is only good if you're more of a serious tripper. If you're just looking to get fucked up and have tonnes of fun then others who are experienced with that sort of tripping will be better able to give you ideas. My honest opinion is that if you want to go that route, then take something such as MDA which is like MDMA but a lot more trippy. Otherwise, take stimulants such as MDMA.
Mushrooms are not for everyone, but I almost guarantee that if you have a good mindset, take a good dosage and follow these general guidelines that you will be dazzled by the mushroom experience. After a couple of positive experiences like this you may very well build the confidence up to be more adventurous and try more things while tripping.
Last but not least, remember that every mushroom trip is different. Even though they all are mysterious and dream-like, everytime has a different theme depending on what is coming up in your mind. If your trip starts out mellow and spiritual, then let it run it's course that way. If it starts out energetic with lots of hysterical laughter and hilarity, then don't try to make it serious. If it's one of those times when you face some parts of yourself that do not make you proud, look on it as a learning experience and let the mushroom take you where it will.
Edited by Tranceport (02/11/05 08:45 PM)
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ryan0000
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: Tranceport]
#3775743 - 02/13/05 07:53 PM (19 years, 6 days ago) |
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Thanks a lot for all of you're help, Tranceport. I am looking to experience mushrooms in this sort of way, and not doin it just to get fucked up..i've had my fair share of that with MDMA and MDA. I think you gave me a great "blueprint" if you will for me to have the best trip possible. I have perfect music selected. You should listen to Yo La Tengo: The sounds of Science. I think it would be the perfect music for the peak, as would a lot of Theievery corporation. I will check out that album, and see if i might even be able to get that movie. The part i have the most trouble with, but want to also accept and enjoy the most, is time seeming like it is hardly moving, but I think if i was in the enviroment you described, I wouldnt be thinking aboout that. I think I'll do them with just me and my girlfriend of 3 years, who has done them before and enjoys them for the first time. I really do appriciate you're suggestions, as I look at this as a relatively big deal, because I want to really have the expereince, but as I've said am worried about another repeat of a bad one, so thanks
Ryan
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ryan0000
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: ryan0000]
#3775752 - 02/13/05 07:57 PM (19 years, 6 days ago) |
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also, about dosage... like ive said i've only taken 1 - 1.5 grams of shrooms each time and felt it was pretty strong... but a couple people ive talked to say taking a dosage like this is probably the best way but that I MIGHT be not crossing the threshold...anotherwords, I try to fight it more because of not taking enough, whereas if i had taken 2-2.5 I would be more prone to go along with it... is this bullshit or does this sound possible?
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Tranceport
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: ryan0000]
#3775943 - 02/13/05 08:42 PM (19 years, 6 days ago) |
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With regard to your last post, I think you are right on the mark about reaching a certain threshhold. When I dose in the 1.5 to 2 gram range, I often have 'too much control' and find that it's much easier to have a rough time. It seems like my ego is too strong and I subconsciously can't really let go.
I find that in the 2-2.5 gram range that my ego starts to soften enough that I no longer care and don't really have reference points for reality to try to hold onto, if that makes any sense. Although the trip is much more mystical, wonderful and intense, it seems to flow much easier without my ego constantly jumping in and trying to make sense of everything.
As far as time dilation: take the clocks off the wall, remove/unplug digital clocks or if that's impractical (VCR clock, etc) I tape a small piece of paper over them. That way I'm not sitting there anxiously waiting for it to 'time' for the mushrooms to hit me or to worry about just how long that last minute took. Also try to avoid activities that you measure by time or distance. Although my trips generally seem too short, the few times time dilation has bothered me was when I was already a bit uncomfortable by being alone outside and trying to walk somewhere. Each block seemed to take an eternity and I had to fight some feelings of fear.
I think your ticket to the best trips is absolute respect for the mushroom. I have a deep, heartfelt respect for mushrooms. I believe with every fiber of my being that they are safe and will not make me lose my mind. I'm not one of these people who necessarily believes in the divinity of mushrooms, but I even physically handle them with care and sometimes have looked at them and told them aloud that I realise they are very powerful and that I am surrendering to what they will show me. I swear I'm not a crazy lunatic, but this seems to give me the proper mindset going into the trip.
Your attitude and reasons for taking mushrooms seem to be sound. I truly wish you the best with mushrooms. I also come from a background of using MDMA and MDA. I have found mushrooms to be much more of an intellectual and adventurous experience. This year I am planning my first hippyflip, and I am very excited about this prospect.
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: Tranceport]
#3777574 - 02/14/05 07:00 AM (19 years, 6 days ago) |
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i love reading how other people think of mushrooms as i do...i cant stand all the people i know that say "HEY! lets get fucked up!!" "well hey i have some mushrooms..." "COOL!" thats fine and dandy but it just seems like a waste...its all up to how they want to use them so i never say anything, but there is more too them than just getting fucked up..thats just humble opinion...
Peace, Alex
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: HeavyToilet]
#9593886 - 01/12/09 09:07 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amen, almost exactly what I do every single time.
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HeavyToilet said:
3) If something bad does start to happen, TELL YOURSELF EVERYTHING WILL GO BACK TO NORMAL. No matter how many thought loops you get stuck in, whatever situation you are in, just remember to tell yourself you'll go right back to normal.
4) Be able to just accept and go with whatever is happening to you. If you can do this, almost nothing bad will happen to you. Seeing insane things? Mind is going to an unimaginable place? Body disappears? Can't feel anything at all? Just accept it and let it happen, don't start freaking out.
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: Rewrite]
#9594113 - 01/12/09 10:32 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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agree with nonsocial environment.
my opinion is that you need ot be interested in your body and your mind and how they work together.
this needs to be an intellectual pursuit (some call it spiritual, I see no difference)
what leads you anywhere is your interest, so if your interest is "what other people have experienced" then you are going in a difficult direction.
your own interest leads the trip.
work on that, for tripping and for not tripping.
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: Sterile]
#12891068 - 07/13/10 02:08 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bam!!! straight out some of the best advise i have heard (although there were alot of just as good replys)
bet you have to enjoy dancing to music, dosn't matter if you feel stupid i go with it and just make myself laugh by dancing like a complete maniac.
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: ryan0000]
#12892344 - 07/13/10 11:42 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Id probably wait a while before I tried any hallucinogen if I were you, maybe it's just not the right time...
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: yoshi]
#12892397 - 07/13/10 11:53 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lots of great advice in this thread.
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Re: Is there anyway now, to have a good trip?? Any Advice is welcome PLZ HELP [Re: abltsandwich]
#12892624 - 07/13/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms at the lake up here in Canada is always a nice relaxing way to do it. No one around no cops only you and friends.
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