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Panaeolopsis with white/pallid gills?
    #12878627 - 07/10/10 04:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Went back to that same field (Same place as this and this thread) and found these yesterday:



Noticing that that gills where white/pallid rather then the jet black I would expect from Panaeolopsis (Mushroom observer doesn't have any that have this shade of color for the gills either, minus this taken by CureCat which the community seems to think is Conocybe apala var. albipes) and other similar species I attempted to cut a cap open and get a spore print color, nothing outside of the gills darkening (Nowhere close to black).

Now, going back today I found these in the same part of the field with a similar colored gills:



Also notice the light/white ring (Zonate) where P. cintulus usually has a dark one, its pretty faint on most specimens due to sun exposure, but I can still make it out in person.

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Re: Panaeolopsis with white/pallid gills? [Re: Byrain]
    #12878712 - 07/10/10 04:57 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Not panaeolous sp. imo.

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Re: Panaeolopsis with white/pallid gills? [Re: dokunai]
    #12878826 - 07/10/10 05:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

those don't look like the other paneaolopsis I've seen. They are obviously something different. Conocybe seems likely:shrug:

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Re: Panaeolopsis with white/pallid gills? [Re: SomeGuy]
    #12879745 - 07/10/10 08:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for both of your input. :smile:

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paducahovoids said:
those don't look like the other paneaolopsis I've seen. They are obviously something different. Conocybe seems likely:shrug:




I am not very familiar with Conocybe, the only ones I have seen have extremely flimsy stems, are all the species like this?  As these are more akin to Panaeolus stems, but yeah, I agree that they look off and there are Conocybe species in that field too.

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Re: Panaeolopsis with white/pallid gills? [Re: Byrain]
    #12879772 - 07/10/10 08:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'm no expert,but I don't think those are conocybe,I think Panaeolopsis is right on:grin:

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Re: Panaeolopsis with white/pallid gills? [Re: KBG1977]
    #12879854 - 07/10/10 09:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It's not unheard of to have a sterile fruiting, and that would explain the gill color:shrug:

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Re: Panaeolopsis with white/pallid gills? [Re: KBG1977]
    #12879913 - 07/10/10 09:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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KBG1977 said:
I'm no expert,but I don't think those are conocybe,I think Panaeolopsis is right on:grin:



I agree.

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Re: Panaeolopsis with white/pallid gills? [Re: Byrain]
    #12879918 - 07/10/10 09:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Panaeolopsis seems likely, check the gill color on mature specimens and watch for blue staining on the base of the stem.

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Re: Panaeolopsis with white/pallid gills? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #12880121 - 07/10/10 09:57 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Panaeolopsis seems likely, check the gill color on mature specimens and watch for blue staining on the base of the stem.




Checked them again, no bluing yet and I realized that one of them doesn't have pallid gills, rather a light gray.

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