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Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED??
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Hi,

I am wondering if anyone has any experience with bags in a PC.

I ordered some bags from unicornbags.com yesterday and I am thinking about exactly is going to happen in the PC...

The bags are 3 inches by 4 inches and are 9 inches tall. And they are shaped like the old brown paper bags you used to take iunch to school in, so they will stand up on thier own.

The main thing I am concerned with is stacking them in the pressure cooker. What exactly happens when the heat is turned up? Do the bags blow up like balloons? Or do they just stay flat? If I can stack them then I can double my production.

I've included some pictures to help out maybe.





TIA

-A

Edited by Alger (02/07/03 05:35 AM)

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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: Alger]
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was wondering the same thing myself? can you pc myco bags?

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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: StainItBlue]
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I pc'd two of them and it came out fine

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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: fee]
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I think the question here is id they can be stacked or not...

sorry i am a very impatient person...


-A

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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: Alger]
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I dont know  :confused: . But maybe This post could help ya.     


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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: Alger]
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It depends on the PC, the size of PC, the bag size & whats in them.

I fill 4 liter Unicorn bags 3/4 full ofsoaked WBS, fold tops & fill a AA 941 full with them, then PC 5 full hours.

The more mass you place in a PC, the longer it takes to sterilize the content.

Like cooking a 2.5 lb chicken, verses cooking a 25 lb turkey. No brainer, it takes longer, because the turkey 10X the mass of the chicken.

Same goes for mass in autoclave bags.

6T (aka Mycota)



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Edited by SixTango (02/07/03 10:48 AM)

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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: SixTango]
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Thanks for the link.... that thread opened my eyes some.

If anyone is interested the bags are 3 x 4 x 9 (w X l X h) or about 1 liter
the PC is a AA 930. I am thinking about 17 bags per cook.

I am hoping to use them simply as a replacement for jars.

After reading Una's thread I think they best way to go about doing this is:
-not sealing them (because I want to innoculate with grain)
-filling with a standard grain/water ratio
-cooking for 1.5 - 2 hours @ 15psi
-letting the bags cool in the laboratory
-innoculating them with fully run grain (from jars)
-impluse sealing them and letting them incubate in semi-setrile conditions

Does anyone know if these bags re-usable?

Thanks

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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: Alger]
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They are.


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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: Alger]
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Kinda lit, so -- if this is gibberish............BITE ME.

Long time ago I ordered a several "K" of big ass bags from UNICORN BAG, without filters, by mistake. They were like $120 a "K".

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Mistake or not.............NOPE

How.......I use then...........is by applying a filter.

How I do that is:

I use them for G2G transfers.

I bought several feet (meters) of 2 inch bore automotive radiator hose (cheap @ auto parts place), cut the hose in 2.5 inch lenghts, used tyvek at a filter, used screw tight metal automotive radiator hose clamps, to seal them. Works like it was made for it.

Can't beat the bags & WBS, for bulk spawn, if ya have a big ass AA PC.

6T


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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: Alger]
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Thats great. Finally i helped somone here, (usually im the one getting help) feels good to be able to give somthing back.
Hope everything works out for you. Good luck with them bags.


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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: SixTango]
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SixTango said:
Kinda lit, so -- if this is gibberish............BITE ME.

Long time ago I ordered a several "K" of big ass bags from UNICORN BAG, without filters, by mistake. They were like $120 a "K".

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Mistake or not.............NOPE

How.......I use then...........is by applying a filter.

How I do that is:

I use them for G2G transfers.

I bought several feet (meters) of 2 inch bore automotive radiator hose (cheap @ auto parts place), cut the hose in 2.5 inch lenghts, used tyvek at a filter, used screw tight metal automotive radiator hose clamps, to seal them. Works like it was made for it.

Can't beat the bags & WBS, for bulk spawn, if ya have a big ass AA PC.

6T 


Soo.. I'm thinking about doing this instead of jars (but buying 1000 of them that hold ~4 QT each.  I thought that I read about 4 bags for a 21L Presto.  I figure that they'll take longer to colonize, but it removes having to do 100-200 jars (hoping on keeping 20-30 tubs).  Once the process gets going (likely a bit longer to get everything going), you can use some for G2G and the rest for tubs.  One bag per tub was what I was thinking (66L) with a  ratio of 3:1 bulk to spawn.... Thoughts?

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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
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Here ya go:thumbup:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26686969

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26556147

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Re: Autoclavable bags in a PC STACKED?? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Winner!

Thats the one!

Thank you

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