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Re: help me astral project! [Re: astral cojones]
    #12860095 - 07/07/10 12:57 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

some very good advice in this thread.  Anecdotally i've heard smoking weed can interfere with OBEs.

i don't really want to contradict anything in here, but i'll lay out some stuff that i've found, and i think envix agree's with me on most of this.

best way to induce an OBE:  take a nap in the afternoon when its still light out.  wear a heavy blanket.  i don't know if its the heat or the pressure, i suspect a bit of both.

going from fully awake to OBE is very hard.  if you want to do that, no joke you must lay absolutely still until you're the hypnogogia state, then a quick and unconscious switch to a more comfortable position won't disturb your focus. 

if you want to go from full awake to OBE, you have to go through the process of going to sleep... mind shutting down, body powering down, and then just miss the falling asleep part.  Its a really delicate thing, not something you force or actively try an enact (in my experience).  You're more waiting and watching patiently until your brain and body turn off, and then in that moment you choose to remain conscious.

hmmm, can't think of too much else.  as someone mentioned it took me a really long time of trying alot.  maybe 6 months for progress.  I haven't OBEd in quite awhile i think. 

one thing alot of people don't mention is once you're OBEing, actually controlling it is insanely hard.  i worked at it for like 6-7 years and my progress seemed minor.

the other thing i would say is a point of contention is OBE's don't feel anything like lucid dreams.  occasionally in a lucid dream something foreign will intrude, but thats rare.  for the most part i can tell all of its coming from myself, and kind of where in myself its coming from.  OBEs you can go into your own dream worlds, but you encounter a ton more random shit. 

OBEing at first is like putting on a blindfold and walking around outside.  its just fucking chaos until you start to recognize things and get really sure of yourself and how to orient yourself.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: truekimbo2]
    #12860326 - 07/07/10 02:41 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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truekimbo2 said:
best way to induce an OBE:  take a nap in the afternoon when its still light out.  wear a heavy blanket.  i don't know if its the heat or the pressure, i suspect a bit of both.







I always tend to wake up I guess with the blanket freshly thrown off me.
As in, I wake up hot as hell, nearly sweating after a lucid dream.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: Morgenstern]
    #12860352 - 07/07/10 02:57 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

There's a helmet that sum dude made that's supposed to give you OBEs by applying a small current to a certain part on a certain side (i think the right).

I gotta make me one...


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: st0ned.crazy]
    #12860381 - 07/07/10 03:14 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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st0ned.crazy said:
There's a helmet that sum dude made that's supposed to give you OBEs by applying a small current to a certain part on a certain side (i think the right).

I gotta make me one...




just grab a few rolls of tinfoil man


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: Frizzle]
    #12860454 - 07/07/10 03:50 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Frizzle said:
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st0ned.crazy said:
There's a helmet that sum dude made that's supposed to give you OBEs by applying a small current to a certain part on a certain side (i think the right).

I gotta make me one...




just grab a few rolls of tinfoil man



Will also help stop them from stealing your thoughts.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: psilocyberman]
    #12860461 - 07/07/10 03:52 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

and your super powers ^


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: Frizzle]
    #12860473 - 07/07/10 04:05 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I also just recently got into meditation and after about 30mins I achieved a state where I felt really numb and almost sucked into the bed. I tried to get sucked into the vortex that I felt was present and it felt like my body was in a really twisted position with the bed like rotated 90degress or something like that. But then my heart started racing and I lost my focus.
Any hints on what to focus on next time? I'll have to try waking up early and then going back to bed next time though as it sounds it could be pretty successful.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: TenaciousE]
    #12861487 - 07/07/10 11:27 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Focus less on the strange sensations you experience as you pass through the hypnagogic state, and focus more on your breathing.

As your mind becomes more aware, you will be brought back to full consciousness. It's best to try to maintain a mild level of detachment from the happenings in your mind to the happenings of the body.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: astral cojones]
    #12861522 - 07/07/10 11:34 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I had no idea how many Mystics were on the shroomery :strokebeard: Why do you all "astral Project" anyway.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: Almond Flour]
    #12861531 - 07/07/10 11:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Remote viewing.  A sense of freedom.  Defiance.  Escape.  No reason.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: Almond Flour]
    #12861556 - 07/07/10 11:42 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I don't consider "OBE's" to truly be out of body, I believe it be to be an inwards experience. Though I don't think this makes the experience any less authentic, I think it makes it even more significant; as the universe is contained within each of us, and through exploring it we can come to a better understanding of our consciousness and its extreme depth.

So basically I astral project to better understand myself, my subconscious, and the dimensions of existence that we experience.


To better clarify, I consider Astral Projecting almost similar to Lucid Dreaming, but the process which we undergo in order to project is what takes us to a different place, and is what differentiates it from Lucid Dreaming.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: Razzlesnaps]
    #12862095 - 07/07/10 01:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know much about astral projection at all, but I just wanted to share that I became lucid in my dream the other morning. It's pretty exciting to me because I've only done it one other time and it was even shorter lived than this time.

I was in a car with somebody and suddenly became aware I was dreaming (something that never happens, I never know I'm dreaming until I wake up from it and reflect). I said "fuck! i'm dreaming! give me that popsicle" and then it ended. I guess I either woke up from it from being too excited, or I stopped being lucid cause I was greedy :shrug:


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: claraclairvoyant]
    #12862120 - 07/07/10 02:05 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

the trick is to gently lose focus while giving in to the sensation


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: claraclairvoyant]
    #12862127 - 07/07/10 02:06 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Oddly enough, I find that when I become lucid in a dream I am constantly in a battle with my subconscious to stay lucid.

I would say the form of mental battle that I have with my subconscious while lucid is almost exactly like Joels battle to hide from the operator erasing his memory in the movie 'Eternal Sunshine'. Because I am almost always (about 80% of the time) undergoing this battle to hide and stay lucid, I find that it is harder to use lucid dreams as a tool to gain knowledge because I am always distracted.
I do reflect on all my lucid dreams though, just as I reflect on any dream in attempt to gain insight.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #12862135 - 07/07/10 02:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

meditate a lot and learn about yourself. you need to find your own way what's best for you on how to achieve these states naturally

don't try using other people's methods. instead, create your own method


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: astral cojones]
    #12862155 - 07/07/10 02:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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meditate a lot and learn about yourself. you need to find your own way what's best for you on how to achieve these states naturally

don't try using other people's methods. instead, create your own method




Truth. :thumbup:

I got frustrated and stopped my work when I was trying other peoples methods.

Once I began going with my own ideas and what felt best, things went significantly smoother.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: astral cojones]
    #12863124 - 07/07/10 05:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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meditate a lot and learn about yourself. you need to find your own way what's best for you on how to achieve these states naturally

don't try using other people's methods. instead, create your own method



I think this is a good idea but would still recommend doing a lot of reading. That way you can gain an understanding of what it is about and then use this information to create your own method. Reading about the subject is also good for getting into your subconscious that this is what you want to do.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: psilocyberman]
    #12863156 - 07/07/10 05:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

there is some good reading material in the quran and bible and bhagavad gita  other ancient texts


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: Razzlesnaps]
    #12864183 - 07/07/10 09:01 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Check out Mahamaya tantra if you ever get the opportunity.


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Re: help me astral project! [Re: blewmeanie]
    #12869628 - 07/08/10 08:02 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Well i almost lucid dreamed a few times there were times when in my dream i just randomly realize that im dreaming and then maybe ill stop doing some that i was doing in my dream and look around and if theres people in my dream that are talking or moving around and i realize im lucid dreaming everyone stops moving and looks at me weird or if i follow someone that im not supposed to or go in a direction im not supposed to things get really weird like shit is missing or theres fish flying around outside i then just get excited or nervous and wake up. however i finally dreamed last night and i was high last night to i dream that i died and i was in a different realm but it was like earth however my house was floating on the ocean and jesus asked me what i wanted to tell my family and i said "tell them being dead isnt so bad" he said ok and left then i took a dive in the ocean swam around a little bit then got woke up by my dad.


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