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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Re: how much time am i looking at [Re: fastfred]
    #12946243 - 07/24/10 03:35 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

This shows that it wasn't always considered to be "5th grade civics shit". It also shows the 6th (and the others) does apply to the states.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: how much time am i looking at [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #12946619 - 07/24/10 05:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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This shows that it wasn't always considered to be "5th grade civics shit".




It has been since 1868.  What year did you take 5th grade civics?

I think 142 years should be long enough for the idea to catch on.  Besides, before that there was the 5th amendment with a similar clause.  They both have substantially the same effect.

Before any of those it goes back to common sense.  What's the fucking point of writing the constitution if nobody has to obey it?  That's just flat out retarded.

The constitution has always been the highest law of the land and states have always been bound by it.  Some legal squabbling and the repeated clarification of that fact doesn't change anything.


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Re: how much time am i looking at [Re: fastfred]
    #12947852 - 07/24/10 09:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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fastfred said:
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This shows that it wasn't always considered to be "5th grade civics shit".




It has been since 1868.  What year did you take 5th grade civics?

I think 142 years should be long enough for the idea to catch on.  Besides, before that there was the 5th amendment with a similar clause.  They both have substantially the same effect.

Before any of those it goes back to common sense.  What's the fucking point of writing the constitution if nobody has to obey it?  That's just flat out retarded.

The constitution has always been the highest law of the land and states have always been bound by it.  Some legal squabbling and the repeated clarification of that fact doesn't change anything.


-FF



Actually the supreme court in the last few years decided a couple cases determining how exactly the amendments are incorporated (whether the 2nd is fully incorporated for example)  Heller and McDonald are two of these. It is an open area in constitutional law. Further, simply repeating supreme law of the land does not change the fact that the bill of rights did not apply to the states for many years. Just because it is the supreme law does not mean it cannot constrain the federal government differently than state governments, as indeed it has. It seems someone stopped at 5th grade civics and never learned anymore. So search the net, read about incorporation and stop calling people out on topics about which you are ignorant. I cited a quote showing that incorporation is NOT completely identical, so the states and federal government are held to different standards. If you care to dispute that, back it up. With more than insults about 5th grade civics.

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Re: how much time am i looking at [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #12947861 - 07/24/10 09:51 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
This shows that it wasn't always considered to be "5th grade civics shit". It also shows the 6th (and the others) does apply to the states.



Yes, but my point is it is wrong to simply say it applies, because it does not apply in the same way, it is substantively different. But yes, it largely applies.

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Re: how much time am i looking at [Re: fastfred]
    #12948981 - 07/25/10 06:10 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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fastfred said:
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This shows that it wasn't always considered to be "5th grade civics shit".




It has been since 1868.  What year did you take 5th grade civics?

I think 142 years should be long enough for the idea to catch on.  Besides, before that there was the 5th amendment with a similar clause.  They both have substantially the same effect.

Before any of those it goes back to common sense.  What's the fucking point of writing the constitution if nobody has to obey it?  That's just flat out retarded.

The constitution has always been the highest law of the land and states have always been bound by it.  Some legal squabbling and the repeated clarification of that fact doesn't change anything.


-FF




Your so cute when your angry! I'm guessing you haven't been laid lately.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: how much time am i looking at [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12951945 - 07/25/10 06:43 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Depending on whether he presses charges or not right?

I should clarify that this incident has yet to take place, and I'm trying hard to just let things go. My record is clean btw, and thanks for the responses, maybe I will check out a courtroom.




For god sakes man why the fuck are you so set on getting caught for this?  Use your head man, if he really has it coming and you got some cunning, the powers of karma and fate will keep you straight.  :wink:

Edited by slssurvivor (07/25/10 06:51 PM)

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