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i want to make everthing right this time.
    #1285277 - 02/06/03 01:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i have got a casing .i patch it 2 days ago because of an stroma and non nutrient layer problem.50/50 tek is the method i used.
it is night here.i m a little bit impatient as a result i decided to make what bilge said
i don t want a perfect pin set. a little ,very very little white mycellium poked up on the valleys.i think the top casing layer is not colonized as lots of you want.
i decided to show them 3 hour light and put it into dark.
24 26 c is what i prefer
%90 is my rh . in a few days i will go and buy some perlite to make it 95 till i will see the pins
i want to use 12 16 hours light tek for pre pinning stage
my question is very simple
as a red it before (i don t know where)
for the first 2 days the casing layer rh should be around %65
and after that second day you can mist a little to become it %72
i dont know how to measure it but i decided not to mist it in these 2 days
and then mist a little
is this true(i also red this for mushrooms in general or other species that doesn t include Psilocybin.
is this for all casings.
also ı decided to fan 5 times a day.
what to you think about my conditions.
are they good enough to be quick
thanks
pm matias romero is my casing


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    #1285282 - 02/06/03 01:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: vatoloco]
    #1285301 - 02/06/03 01:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i have got a little bit worry about what sexcee said me before.
i crushed my verms .not nearly powder but very small..they haven t got clay around them now .is this couse a problem.or does it good for moisture.
also thanks.
i will be in a hot contact.in everyday with my casing .because i realy want to learn the misting mysteries.
and i also decided to buy h2o2.
thanks.


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: fugu]
    #1285310 - 02/06/03 01:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you at 90 rh? For casings arent you supposed to be somewhere around 70-75?

Just wondering, maybe im confused. Thank you.


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: fugu]
    #1285311 - 02/06/03 01:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

>for the first 2 days the casing layer rh should be around %65
>and after that second day you can mist a little to become it %72

I think you are talking about the water content of the casing layer here.

To be ho0nest, these are such minor differences, that you don?t have to worry about in a small scale cultivation.
Just bring the casing to a proper water level and keep it there.


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1285317 - 02/06/03 01:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Psilocybe cubensis Growth Parameters
taken from


Paul Stamets and J. S. Chilton: The Mushroom Cultivator
If you want more information (and there is plenty!), go buy the book


Mycelial Types: Rhizomorphic to linear; whitish in overall color but often bruising bluish where injured.
Standard Spawn Medium: Rye grain. See Chapter III.
Fruiting Substrate: Rye grain; wheat straw; leached horse or cow manure and/or horse manure/straw compost balanced to a 71-74% moisture content.
Method of Preparation: See Chapters III, V, and VI. Pasteurization achieved through exposure to live steam for 2 hours at 140?F. throughout the substrate. Straw or compost should be filled to a depth of 6-12 inches. Straw should be spawned at a rate of 2 cups/sq. ft.

Spawn Run:
Relative Humidity: 90%.
Substrate Temperature: 84-86 ?F. Thermal death limits have been established at 106?F.
Duration: 10-14 days.
CO2: 5000-10,000 ppm.
Fresh Air Exchanges: 0 per hour.
Type of Casing: After fully run, cover with the standard casing whose preparations described in Chapter VIII. Layer to a depth of 1-2 inches. The casing should be balanced to an initial pH of 6. 8-7. 2.

Post Casing/Prepinning:
Relative Humidify: 90+%. Substrate Temperature: 84-86?F.
Duration of Case Run: 5-10 days.
CO2: 5000-10,000 ppm.
Fresh Air Exchanges: 0 per hour.
Light: Incubation in total darkness.

Primordia Formation:
Relative Humidify: 95-100%.
Air Temperature: 74-78 ?F.
Duration: 6-10 days.
CO2: less than 5000 ppm.
Fresh Air Exchanges: 1 -3 per hour.
Light: Diffuse natural or exposure for 12-16 hours/day of grow-lux type fluorescent light high in blue spectra at the 480 nanometer wavelength. (SeeChapters IV and IX).

Cropping:
Relative Humidify: 85-92%. (For cakes: 95-100% )
Air Temperature: 74-78 ?F.
CO2 : less than 5000 ppm.
Fresh Air Exchanges: 1 -3 per hour.
Flushing Pattern: Every 5-8 days.
Harvest Stage: When the cap becomes convex and soon after the partial veil ruptures.
Light: Indirect natural or same as above.

Yield Potential: Average yields are 2-4 Ibs. /sq. ft. over a 5 week croppingperiod. Maximum yield potential has not been established.

Moisture Content of Mushrooms: 92% water; 8% dry matter.

Nutritional Content: Not yet established.



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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: fugu]
    #1285331 - 02/06/03 02:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

>I think you are talking about the water content of the casing layer here.
yes
i think crushed verms hold a little bit much water..i m really afraid a bit about that.sorry i havent got money to buy some coco coir yet this week i hope
it looks wet.i will take a pic and show you.i hope it looks good .


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: Anno]
    #1285338 - 02/06/03 02:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Do you mean you dont even need like a cold mist humidifier so long as the casing is at the right moisture itself? *confused*

Thank you.


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: fugu]
    #1285369 - 02/06/03 02:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)


Like vato said yur destined for glory. give it a couple days


i know this is off topic, but wow fugu you Turkish people have quite the sence of humor (I just got done reading his new signtature), Keep it though its great haha.


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: Psychoslut]
    #1285445 - 02/06/03 02:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

thanks guys. no pic tonight.maybe in the day light. its not quiet open.i mist it nearly well not well.i m also confused now.does anybody has got an idea about crushed verms(i know lots of you got)this time it seems it drinks water much.does the clay has got a function about on holding water.(it seems it has got imo)
and maybe an important question.i think this time my terrarium is a little big.
from one side i thought that if i obtain the right conditions in my terrarium it doesnt matter and also good so much fresh air.
on the other side .does it make a little bit differance on the casing layer to become it dry more fast.
pm:yes i will need a cool mist in a couple of days. i hope i will buy.


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: fugu]
    #1285509 - 02/06/03 03:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

hey, fugu, post a pic of this "big ball verm" with something we all recognize next to it so we can see just how big it is. i am talking about the verm BEFORE you crushed it up. since coins are not an option since I have no idea how big your coins are maybe try a butane lighter or an inkpen, something common to all of us (hell, a petri dish?).


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: debianlinux]
    #1285525 - 02/06/03 03:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

they are a little big from the butane lighter turner.and the biggest one is as big as double butane lighter turner.


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: fugu]
    #1285585 - 02/06/03 03:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

okay then, now does anybody think he's nuts for busting up his verm a bit? thought so. hey, fugu, "normal" verm size would be about a little smaller than small enough to fit into the hole the flame comes out of in a lighter (not the actual nozzle but the hole in the metal shielding). you don't want to bust your verm up too small, but from the sound of the verm you have you didn't do wrong by busting it up some.


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Re: i want to make everthing right this time. [Re: debianlinux]
    #1285618 - 02/06/03 03:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

so;
does clay has got a function on holding the water
does a little big terrarium makes my layer dry a bit fast
and at the end

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=1283540&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
thanks debi for the nuts.


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