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jar air exchange
    #1285069 - 02/06/03 12:43 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

A little over three weeks ago I injected 20 half pint jars with amazonian, and as of today most of them are about half colonized. Slow. I have a pretty stable 80-90 degrees maintained in my terrerium, with about 70 % humidity, so environment shouldnt be the problem. So as a last resort, im wondering if the tape over the lid holes is a problem. Do jars really need air exchange? ive gotten mixed messages on this. I always figured not, because it would up the risk of contaminants getting in.


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: safeway]
    #1285073 - 02/06/03 12:44 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Do you have a verm layer at the top?


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: SixCee]
    #1285085 - 02/06/03 12:46 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

it is gas exchange not air exchange :wink: 


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: fugu]
    #1285362 - 02/06/03 02:17 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah i have a verm layer on top


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: safeway]
    #1285398 - 02/06/03 02:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

IMO its very important


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: safeway]
    #1285400 - 02/06/03 02:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

then you should take the tape off


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: fugu]
    #1285402 - 02/06/03 02:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

same thing


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: safeway]
    #1285515 - 02/06/03 03:17 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Take the tape off and put a coffee filter over the top with a rubberband.


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: safeway]
    #1285539 - 02/06/03 03:27 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Take the tape off and just wrap the top with tin foil.


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: angryshroom]
    #1285567 - 02/06/03 03:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)


click edit
write gas exchange
click change this post.


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: fugu]
    #1286226 - 02/06/03 06:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:


click edit
write gas exchange
click change this post.




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Re: jar air exchange [Re: safeway]
    #1286242 - 02/06/03 06:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Do jars really need air exchange?



Anno experimented with this idea and found that some does help a bit. Personally, I've experienced no problems with no air exchange during incubation, along with many others.


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1286243 - 02/06/03 06:38 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

gas exchange is very important. thats how i fucked up my first cakes. they still grew 33 shroms but they were only 75% colnized


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: dr4g0n]
    #1286251 - 02/06/03 06:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

gas exchange is very important. thats how i fucked up my first cakes. they still grew 33 shroms but they were only 75% colnized



During fruiting, of course, but I believe we're talking about incubation.


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: fugu]
    #1286361 - 02/06/03 07:14 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

i suppose its hard for you to know all the meanings of english words, but in english gas exchange and air exchange are both okay to say.i guess if you really wanted to get into it , there is air, and the air contains many different gasses , all of the gasses make up the air. so stop bitchin about dumb shit.


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: A0999]
    #1286407 - 02/06/03 07:25 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

anarchist, you started off really nice then got rude at the end. So what, English is not his first language. Try to keep that in mind. I think fugu is alright, even though his posts do require a bit of "deciphering" from time to time. I always try to remember that if roles were reversed and I was posting on a board where another language was being used that I would not appreciate being the subject of other's ridiucule simply because I had not mastered their language yet. There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. The former is acceptable and able to be corrected through education; the latter is unacceptable and is an unfortunate reality which generally is irreversible. Ignorance of our language is just that: ignorance... NOT stupidity. His posts may be hard to read but he is obviously intelligent and I for one welcome his contributions to this community.

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Re: jar air exchange [Re: Uber]
    #1287179 - 02/07/03 03:23 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

so ok gas and air are same i hope...till then i always use gas exchange.


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: fugu]
    #1287194 - 02/07/03 03:34 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Funny thing their guy, I know a three fisted monkey that has the same sort of configuration (that being amazonian in half pints stalling), well anyway i finaly got the monkey to pull his third first out of eheemmmm... and anyway long story short he removed the tape and loosened the lids and colonization speed up promptly, In the monkeys situation air exchange has always been important, maybe because the incubator is in a sealed contain within several containers i dont know anyway it is important do it up youll be happy :grin:


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: deprave]
    #1287198 - 02/07/03 03:38 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I work with someone who doesnt speak english very well and when i first starting working with him i used to reply in broken english, funny how it rubs off lol, saw poogrower replying to a fugu post in broken english earlier, anyway its not that big of a deal shit, i cant speak many languages myself


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Re: jar air exchange [Re: fugu]
    #1287213 - 02/07/03 03:58 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

>so ok gas and air are same i hope

Air is a mixture of different gases: nitrogen, oxygen, argon, carbon dioxide and other gases. Air is what you breath.


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