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Becoming a vegetarian
    #12848320 - 07/04/10 06:37 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I've always wanted to become a vegetarian, despite my occasional desperate cravings for a hunk of bloody flesh.  A girl I'm very interested in has been a vegetarian for awhile, and this seems like the perfect motivation for me to finally make a change (it's always for a girl, isn't it? :smile:)

My questions are rather basic, but since people in the Shroomery community seem like the perfect people to ask, I thought I'd try here first.

- What's a typical lunch for you vegetarians out there?  I think salad is going to get old very fast unless I can come up with new ways to make salad exciting each time.

- Can you recommend a good vegetarian cookbook?

- Do you take protein supplements? 

- Any general tips to keep me interested/regimented

Thanks in advance guys! :heart:


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #12848427 - 07/04/10 07:01 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not vegetarian, but I do have meals without meat. Beans, mushrooms, things like tofu .etc are always good to keep you full. Salads never fill me up, so I have to have other things with carbs to go along with it. Pasta is also good :smile:

I think my favourite non meat meal would be spaghetti with kidney beans instead of meat and I think I threw some other things in as well. Haven't made it in a while haha. I'd say to just think of meals you like and think of ways to swap the meat with something else.

If you have room for a garden where you live, get a nice vege patch going and don't for get about this site - grow some edible mushrooms! You could get some nice hobbies out of this :wink:


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: chooken]
    #12848562 - 07/04/10 07:46 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I got some kitchsy cookbooks called The Garden of Vegan and How It All Vegan one year for a present and although the girls are hardcore vegans...the books have a lot of great recipes and you can substitute/change things as you feel free.  For example, I am not hardcore vegan and I like my cheeses so sometimes I put in real cheeses vs the tofu cheese.  Everything I have ever made from the books is tasty and most are quite simple.  Oh well there was one experiment with some kind of a lasagna/casserole thing...it didn't turn out so well I forget which book it was from and what it was specifically but I threw the pan out...heed caution if it's a casserole with red chili pepper flakes. :thumbup:


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: atayia]
    #12849888 - 07/05/10 01:31 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I have been vegetarian/vegan for about 4 years. I will never go back to eating meat unless I have to.

It's very easy and quite simple too since you don't necessarely have to cook if you don't want to or if you don't have time. Meat has to be cooked, not vegetables, nuts or fruits so it's not as complicated as some will have you believe. Of course, you can also really get into it and cook intricate vegetarian meals, which are great :grin:

So... lunches! I'll tell you what mine are made off nowadays: I kick off the day with good cereal ( granola and such ) soaked in vanilla soy milk... Yummy. Then I head off to work. ( After some good coffee too )

Morning break: A nice ripe grapefruit and some nut mix.

Lunch break: It varies a lot but I go from home made greek salad ( feta cheese, onions, tomatoes, olives ), bean salad ( red kidney beans and other kinds, chili sauce, vegetables ) to simple sliced vegetables and hummus with some sweet thing as a dessert ( I love sweets ).

And then, at the afternoon break I have some fruits or some more sweets.

Dinner time has come and that's when I usually have a pretty elaborate meal or some pizza. ( I love pizza... I just can't get enough ).

I sometimes sautée vegetables in a wok and cover them with a great Indonesian peanut sauce, cook a curry, or simply use the blender and make a smoothie from fresh fruits.

It's a great lifestyle man! :thumbup: And seriously, if you go forth with this, get yourself some good bread. Whole grain and everything k?


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #12849995 - 07/05/10 02:08 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Chaos_ultt said:
I've always wanted to become a vegetarian, despite my occasional desperate cravings for a hunk of bloody flesh.  A girl I'm very interested in has been a vegetarian for awhile, and this seems like the perfect motivation for me to finally make a change (it's always for a girl, isn't it? :smile:)

My questions are rather basic, but since people in the Shroomery community seem like the perfect people to ask, I thought I'd try here first.

- What's a typical lunch for you vegetarians out there?  I think salad is going to get old very fast unless I can come up with new ways to make salad exciting each time.

- Can you recommend a good vegetarian cookbook?

- Do you take protein supplements? 

- Any general tips to keep me interested/regimented

Thanks in advance guys! :heart:




hey man! good to see you wanna make the change! it's a positive thing...

for a vegetarian, i personally dont go all out and try to avoid all foods people would consider unhealthy. when i go out to eat, i don't mind eating french fries, as they are one of the few vegetarian things most resturaunts serve..

i like potato chips actually...i eat alot of pasta too, its one of the most consistent things i eat(part Italian that must be why)...with olive oil and some salt and pepper on the pasta...pretty bland but it keeps me living


no protien supplement...i don't think people need nearly as much protien as most people think

i eat alot of beans for protien...take a multivitamin and calcium supplement daily..

occasionally i will have candy...i still like chocolate, and every once in a while will buy a bar of chocolate or something...even a doughnut here and there! oh well aslong as i'm not eating an animal it's all good to me.

i eat a shit load of salad too...alot of times i eat a bag a day for like a week, then i just dont eat salad at all for a few days, then i will go crazy and eat a ton of salad again..

i like alot of variety in my diet...keeps it from getting boring

i am pretty extreme as far as being a vegetarian goes...i'm not vegan, but will never touch meat. eggs, milk, those are impossible to avoid, but i wont go out of my way to consume them. they are in about every piece of bread you could imagine

i refuse to eat cheese though, because it has enzymes in it that have been scraped from the lining of baby cow stomach's...


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #12850269 - 07/05/10 03:51 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Doctor_Dick said:
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Chaos_ultt said:
I've always wanted to become a vegetarian, despite my occasional desperate cravings for a hunk of bloody flesh.  A girl I'm very interested in has been a vegetarian for awhile, and this seems like the perfect motivation for me to finally make a change (it's always for a girl, isn't it? :smile:)

My questions are rather basic, but since people in the Shroomery community seem like the perfect people to ask, I thought I'd try here first.

- What's a typical lunch for you vegetarians out there?  I think salad is going to get old very fast unless I can come up with new ways to make salad exciting each time.

- Can you recommend a good vegetarian cookbook?

- Do you take protein supplements? 

- Any general tips to keep me interested/regimented

Thanks in advance guys! :heart:




hey man! good to see you wanna make the change! it's a positive thing...

for a vegetarian, i personally dont go all out and try to avoid all foods people would consider unhealthy. when i go out to eat, i don't mind eating french fries, as they are one of the few vegetarian things most resturaunts serve..

i like potato chips actually...i eat alot of pasta too, its one of the most consistent things i eat(part Italian that must be why)...with olive oil and some salt and pepper on the pasta...pretty bland but it keeps me living


no protien supplement...i don't think people need nearly as much protien as most people think

i eat alot of beans for protien...take a multivitamin and calcium supplement daily..

occasionally i will have candy...i still like chocolate, and every once in a while will buy a bar of chocolate or something...even a doughnut here and there! oh well aslong as i'm not eating an animal it's all good to me.

i eat a shit load of salad too...alot of times i eat a bag a day for like a week, then i just dont eat salad at all for a few days, then i will go crazy and eat a ton of salad again..

i like alot of variety in my diet...keeps it from getting boring




This is pretty sound advice. It sounds a lot like how I do it...I just kind of go for what I'm in the mood for, which changes often. Sometimes I eat a lot of salad too, then none.

I keep bananas and apples on hand pretty much at all times. About 3 apples a week or so. I eat one banana a day with my breakfast of 1 cup homemade granola with 1 cup organic skim milk. Here's the recipe I use:

http://www.slashfood.com/2007/08/31/a-granola-recipe-from-my-moms-hippie-youth/

It's *really* easy. It's filling as hell. It's super healthy. And it's delicious. I've made it for friends and they all absolutely loved it.

What I found helps *a lot* is to have some staples that you always have around. Having this granola for breakfast almost every day is amazing. If I don't feel like granola or I'm out, I have blueberry bagels in the fridge (which last forever) with some organic cream cheese (I eat all organic animal products - usually local as well).

My other staple is fried potatoes with scrambled eggs. I take a chunk of butter (organic/local) add in sliced red potatoes (reds are amazing fried) with some pepper and dried thyme. Cook that on med-low heat with a lid on, stirring occasionally. While these cook I add my eggs (organic/local) to a bowl and mix with milk, salt, oregano and pepper. When the potatoes are done, I transfer them to a bowl and add the eggs to the pan. The eggs only take like 2 minutes to cook, then I add them to the bowl with potatoes. Wabam! that's good eats.

Look for small ways you can make things much better. For example, if I don't want to make tomato sauce for pasta, I buy jarred stuff and add some fresh parmesan that I keep a block of at all times. The parmesan makes bland jarred pasta actually pretty decent. Add some dried herbs and you're good to go.

As far as full blown meals I am obsessed with soup. Good thing, because there are tons of vegetarian soups. I highly recommend this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Moosewood-Restaurant-Daily-Special-Recipes/dp/0609802429/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278315134&sr=1-1

About half of it is soup, about another half is salad, and then there's a few pages for desserts, bread and other things.

I also really like this cook book:

http://www.amazon.com/Vegetarian-Cooking-Everyone-Deborah-Madison/dp/0767927478/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278315209&sr=1-1

It's really great if you're just learning how to cook because she really lays it out there. It's at times pretty fancy, so be ready for that. I go to her if I want something really detailed or something that's unique. For example, I decided over the weekend to make curry for my first time tomorrow and I will most probably take a curry recipe from her book.

A few more things...since I make granola so often I have nuts on hand at all times, so I snack on them. You'd be surprised how filling a handful of nuts and a banana is.

Another thing that I have as kind of a staple is the BP&J. Jam and peanut butter don't really go bad, so as long as I use up the bread I have a decent snack for a couple weeks. I don't know really how healthy whole grain bread is but I'm just a die-hard for wheat bread, so that's what I use.

Salad is important too...gotta get as many of those dark leafy greens in as possible. A good balsamic vinaigrette, some romaine lettuce, spinach, and one or two dark greens (collards, kale, chard (my favorite)).

I do have protein powder that I add to smoothies which I make in spurts...sometimes daily, sometimes once a week. To those I will add milk, one banana, scoop of protein, frozen fruit (strawberries, kiwi, blueberries, etc.) and blend.

I also take a multivitamin. This is what I take:

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Adam-Superior-Men-s-Multi-120-Tablets/380?at=0

It's two a day...totally worth it.

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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: fazdazzle]
    #12850281 - 07/05/10 03:54 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

try annie's goddess salad dressing if you havent! the only dressing i use now...its high in fat, ...tastes amazing...just thought i'd throw that out there :laugh:


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #12850718 - 07/05/10 09:30 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you so much for the tips! :heart::heart::tongue2:


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #12858656 - 07/06/10 10:06 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

look into farmers markets and community gardens. way awesome for the environment.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: plustax]
    #12877970 - 07/10/10 04:19 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

It's easy. Think how many vegetables there are out there. Just pick two or three and make a meal out of them. Sweet potatoes, aubergines (egg plants) and mushrooms are are great for a base; combine them with things like spinach or peppers.

Use a lot of cheese and eggs, to fill you up and feel satisfied and to get your protein and calcium. Don't worry about the fat content; because they're combined with vegetables it's all healthy (within reasonable limits).

Get a bamboo steamer and start to make some eastern dishes. Brown rice is great to go with vegetables. Use fresh herbs for flavour! At the moments Im eating lots of chives and corriander. Add in things like nuts and seeds. Use good quality oils, and things like balsamic vinegar, mayonnaise, tabasco, soy sauce, to make dressings and sauces.

Tomatoes are fucking amazing

I eat mostly vegetarian food. It's so easy to make tasty and satisfying food, you don't miss meat at all if you do it properly.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: fish50]
    #12878393 - 07/10/10 05:54 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

great topic, i never had meat since mondays night chicken burger, since then i have trying to make meals with boiling veggies, oatmeal, cashews and other nuts, less milk drinking until i grab some soy milk, fruits fresh and dried, sunflower seeds, some soups.

do many vegertairans take supplements? B12, iron and calcium are supposed to be very important, which stresses me out because i dont know if im gettin enough b12 or not, im trying to avoid milk and eggs to.

im reading "living vegetarian for dummies" right now and its quite good.

http://www.amazon.com/Living-Vegetarian-Dummies-sup-ebook/dp/B002XGICB8


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Fern]
    #12881265 - 07/11/10 08:27 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

A great easy meal I eat quite often is guacamole.  Avocados have a bit of protein in them and I think they have the highest number of minerals of any
fruit.

U need;

1 avocado

2-3 garlic cloves

1 lemon

salt

and maybe some fresh herbs if you have any;  rosemary, thyme, oregano etc.

Crush or finely chop  the garlic, squeeze in some lemon juice pinch of salt and some herbs - mash it all together.  Eat it with some corn chips or some
nice bread.

:drooling::drooling::drooling:

Sorry that was pretty specific advise but I've been eating this a lot lately cos avocados are in season.

Eggs and fried mushrooms and spinach are also a great if your craving meat.  As these 3 ingredients have most of the stuff that is found in meat.

Eggs for the protein, Mushrooms for the B vitamins and Spinach for the iron.


Good luck going veg :thumbup:


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: cryptic_pickle]
    #12881280 - 07/11/10 08:35 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

If your a guy I'd stay away from soymilk cos it gives you tits.  :borat:


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: cryptic_pickle]
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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: cryptic_pickle]
    #12881940 - 07/11/10 01:05 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

soy milk is fine. i used soy protien and i didnt get tits


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #12944481 - 07/24/10 10:07 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Just wanted to give an update and say that I'm still a vegetarian 3 weeks later!

I've noticed that people really take a special interest in you when you're a vegetarian.  You're instantly interesting.  I like it :smile:

I've been eating lots of Chick'n nuggets and Veggie Burgers (chipotle flavor), but I've also been experimenting with vegetarian meals you have to cook yourself. 

I made a vegetable strudel that everyone in my family loved.  It was huge, and was completely gone in an hour or so.  Basically it's a filo crust, filled with eggplant, zucchini, chilies, and cheese.  nom nom nom.

I tried making tofu curry, but I don't think I cut the tofu small enough, and it ended up having a weird texture.  I'll have to keep experimenting.

I made some vegetable stock that I put into icecube trays and stored in a large freezer bag.  It's really simple to make and you can do a lot of different things with it.

My favorite meal so far has been a vegetarian burrito/taco.  I make it pretty much every day.  It was inspired by shroomery member cactu from his "whana eat some?  Show it!" thread.  It's basically diced onions and sliced mushrooms, fried in a pan until soft and placed on a tortilla.  On top I add a basic salsa (chili, tomato, cilantro, lime), and top that with sour cream and cheese.  It's so good!  Try it!

If anyone has any other recipes that they'd like to add to this thread, I'd really appreciate it!


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #12944627 - 07/24/10 11:09 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup: good job man! stick to it! after a certain point if you dont eat any meat for a while the thought of eating meat will sound gross! :smile: keep it up


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #12945343 - 07/24/10 02:36 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

fuck that shit , steaks and pork forever. I would never sacrifivce my meat to eat bland tasteless plants and have to add salad dressing out the ass to make up for it or other kinds of covers just so i can feel like im doing something positive. im doing something beneficial to the planet y wiping out all those damn cows , pigs and shit before  they overrun the earth and take over instead of humans. havent you ever read Animal Farm? :meatwad:


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: The24HourMC]
    #12946541 - 07/24/10 06:44 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I made the Granola from the recipe fazdazzle posted, was so good! Although the dried fruit I used was a bit dodgy, might try it next time without the fruit


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #12946599 - 07/24/10 06:57 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Just wanted to give an update and say that I'm still a vegetarian 3 weeks later!

I've noticed that people really take a special interest in you when you're a vegetarian.  You're instantly interesting.  I like it :smile:

I've been eating lots of Chick'n nuggets and Veggie Burgers (chipotle flavor), but I've also been experimenting with vegetarian meals you have to cook yourself. 

I made a vegetable strudel that everyone in my family loved.  It was huge, and was completely gone in an hour or so.  Basically it's a filo crust, filled with eggplant, zucchini, chilies, and cheese.  nom nom nom.

I tried making tofu curry, but I don't think I cut the tofu small enough, and it ended up having a weird texture.  I'll have to keep experimenting.

I made some vegetable stock that I put into icecube trays and stored in a large freezer bag.  It's really simple to make and you can do a lot of different things with it.

My favorite meal so far has been a vegetarian burrito/taco.  I make it pretty much every day.  It was inspired by shroomery member cactu from his "whana eat some?  Show it!" thread.  It's basically diced onions and sliced mushrooms, fried in a pan until soft and placed on a tortilla.  On top I add a basic salsa (chili, tomato, cilantro, lime), and top that with sour cream and cheese.  It's so good!  Try it!

If anyone has any other recipes that they'd like to add to this thread, I'd really appreciate it!





Yeah, when I started out I ate a lot of fake meat products.  I still use them every once in a while when I get that nostalgic craving.  Do you have any Gardein where you live?  It's by far the best meat substitute.  Specifically the crispy chicken strips.

I also went through my wrap phase.  Burritos, and veggie fajitas and whatnot.

My advice to you is to get a vegetarian Indian cookbook.  The Indians have been cooking vegetarian for thousands of years, so they've had a lot of practice. 

Eventually you'll probably go through a stir-fry phase too.  Personally, that's what followed my wrap phase.

It gets MUCH easier over time.  You'll have your days, but it definitely gets easier.

And yeah, mushrooms are a must, especially if you're a male.  Some soy in moderation is fine for men, but it's still better to try to get your protein from other sources too.  And mushrooms help fill that need.

Right now my absolute favorite food is here:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/aaron-mccargo-jr/grilled-portobello-burger-recipe/index.html

If you still eat cheese, this is probably the best thing you'll ever taste in your entire life.  Hell, I'm sure it would be awesome, even without the feta.

Good luck. :laugh:


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #12966023 - 07/28/10 12:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

the only advice i have is......  that i went full vegetarian, well plus eggs and fish on occasion for roughly 2 years.  i felt great, i liked it at first, but in the end i slowly began to crave meat(insert joke here) and eventually decided that it wasnt for me, i decided that a diet with meat in moderation was just as healthy as full vegetarian, and thats what im sticking with.

some people love it and stick with it for life, some hate it and dont last but a few weeks, it just wasnt for me. :shrug:

ok so that wasnt really advice, the only advice i can give you is just research the hell out of it before you start, it is very important you are getting a balanced diet as a vegetarian.  it is very easy if you do your research.  i managed to pack on 10lbs of lean muscle during my 2 year stint.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: cryptic_pickle]
    #12966041 - 07/28/10 12:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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If your a guy I'd stay away from soymilk cos it gives you tits.  :borat:





id stay away from soymilk period.  almond milk is a delicious and nutritious alternative.


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    #12966062 - 07/28/10 12:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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fuck that shit , steaks and pork forever. I would never sacrifivce my meat to eat bland tasteless plants and have to add salad dressing out the ass to make up for it or other kinds of covers just so i can feel like im doing something positive. im doing something beneficial to the planet y wiping out all those damn cows , pigs and shit before  they overrun the earth and take over instead of humans. havent you ever read Animal Farm? :meatwad:





listen punk, this isnt OTD or a forum for debate.  the guy wasnt asking for your opinion, he was asking for advice on becoming a vegetarian.  noone cares what YOU would or wouldnt do. keep your opinions to other forums or threads asking for your opinion. if you have no advice on being a vegetarian, then piss off.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12967509 - 07/28/10 05:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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leftysurprise said:id stay away from soymilk period.  almond milk is a delicious and nutritious alternative.



Except for the fact that almond milk has 86% less protein per serving than soy milk.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: daussaulit]
    #12967524 - 07/28/10 05:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

ill get my protein elsewhere and stay away from the hormones.  if the soy isnt fermented, im not eating it, outside of fresh edamame.  besides, personally, i think soymilk is the grossest tasting of all the non dairy milks.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12967550 - 07/28/10 05:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Soy is great for men and women.  Men just have to be a little more careful to keep their intake under 30g soy protein per day.  25g soy protein per day is recommended by the FDA to both men and women.

The people who have problems are the men who take 100+ grams of soy protein per day to build muscle.  These people would be much better off with something like pea protein.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12967572 - 07/28/10 06:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

also, almond milk contains lots of vitamin E, manganese, magnesium, phosphorous, potassium, selenium, iron, fiber, zinc and calcium, which i think makes up for the lack of protein.

silk soy milk contains 6.25 grams of protein per serving, most almond milk contains 1 gram, all you have to do is eat a cup of nuts to bridge that gap.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: BothHands]
    #12967583 - 07/28/10 06:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yeah well theres debate among scientists and nutritionists about that, so until it looks like the debate is settled, ill stay away from it.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12967603 - 07/28/10 06:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Non-Fermented Soy Milk

The fermentation process prepares the soy bean and kills toxins and bacteria that may be harmful if ingested. The major problem with non-fermented soy milk is due to the high amounts of phytic acid it contains.

Non-fermented soy means phytic acid prevents the body from absorbing essential vitamins and minerals like calcium, magnesium, copper, iron, and especially zinc in the intestinal tract. This can lead to a number of different problems.

In the case of children and menstruating women, the phytic acid in soy can have serious consequences, as iron is much needed by children and women. Women need iron to replace the loss during their menstrual cycle and in children iron is required for growth and development.

Phytic acid also inhibits absorption of iodine, the most important mineral needed for growth and metabolism, used by the thyroid gland in the production of thyroid hormones. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.

Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.

Consuming even small amounts of unfermented soy milk on a regular basis could cause some adverse effects in our body. In contrast, consuming organic fermented soy milk and soy products can be quite beneficial.




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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12967656 - 07/28/10 06:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Well, after doing a quick bit of research, it seems that people with normal stomach and intestinal flora should produce phytase, which breaks down phytic acid, and allows you to absorb the phosphorus it contains.

If you've been on an antibiotic, and haven't taken a probiotic afterwards though, your flora might be depleted.

As for the breast cancer, well, many studies have shown that the phytoestrogens reduce breast cancer risk.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: BothHands]
    #12967709 - 07/28/10 06:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

like i said, when theres better research disproving the many negative claims, then id feel better about it.  i really dont see the risk in consuming something that is uncertain when there is a clear safe alternative.

also, doesnt resolve the problem of phytoestrogens.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12967726 - 07/28/10 06:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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also, almond milk contains lots of vitamin E, manganese, magnesium, phosphorous, potassium, selenium, iron, fiber, zinc and calcium, which i think makes up for the lack of protein.

silk soy milk contains 6.25 grams of protein per serving, most almond milk contains 1 gram, all you have to do is eat a cup of nuts to bridge that gap.



So what's the point of almond milk then if you're just going to eat almonds to make up for the lack of protein?  Might as well drink water and eat almonds to get the vitamins and minerals. 

Also, I'm just looking at the nutritional information for just the Silk brand stuff, 1 serving of almond milk contains the same amount of fiber as soy milk.  1 gram.

I don't think there's a problem with a serving of soy milk every day, regardless of sex.  Anything in excess is bad for you.  As far as the hormones being bad for you, the Japanese and Chinese seem to be doing well even though they've been eating soy products for nearly 2,000 years.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: daussaulit]
    #12967761 - 07/28/10 06:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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also, almond milk contains lots of vitamin E, manganese, magnesium, phosphorous, potassium, selenium, iron, fiber, zinc and calcium, which i think makes up for the lack of protein.

silk soy milk contains 6.25 grams of protein per serving, most almond milk contains 1 gram, all you have to do is eat a cup of nuts to bridge that gap.



So what's the point of almond milk then if you're just going to eat almonds to make up for the lack of protein?  Might as well drink water and eat almonds to get the vitamins and minerals. 

Also, I'm just looking at the nutritional information for just the Silk brand stuff, 1 serving of almond milk contains the same amount of fiber as soy milk.  1 gram.

I don't think there's a problem with a serving of soy milk every day, regardless of sex.  Anything in excess is bad for you.  As far as the hormones being bad for you, the Japanese and Chinese seem to be doing well even though they've been eating soy products for nearly 2,000 years.





because some people like milk or a milk like substance to go with cereal, cookies, etc.  and they would also like it without the possibility of adverse health effects.  im just saying, as long as there is doubt to the safety of it, why risk it when there is a better tasting substitute?  the only milk i drank for 2 years was almond milk, and i had absolutely no problem getting the protein i needed plus enough to build new muscle.  however these companies could avoid the whole controversy by producing and selling fermented soy milk for those who dont trust unfermented.

one problem, here in america is ALL they sell is unfermented soymilk, most soymilk and any soy product in the far east is fermented.  fermented soy is perfectly safe and beneficial.  the asians eat very little unfermented soy, outside of edamame.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12967878 - 07/28/10 07:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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also, almond milk contains lots of vitamin E, manganese, magnesium, phosphorous, potassium, selenium, iron, fiber, zinc and calcium, which i think makes up for the lack of protein.

silk soy milk contains 6.25 grams of protein per serving, most almond milk contains 1 gram, all you have to do is eat a cup of nuts to bridge that gap.



So what's the point of almond milk then if you're just going to eat almonds to make up for the lack of protein?  Might as well drink water and eat almonds to get the vitamins and minerals. 

Also, I'm just looking at the nutritional information for just the Silk brand stuff, 1 serving of almond milk contains the same amount of fiber as soy milk.  1 gram.

I don't think there's a problem with a serving of soy milk every day, regardless of sex.  Anything in excess is bad for you.  As far as the hormones being bad for you, the Japanese and Chinese seem to be doing well even though they've been eating soy products for nearly 2,000 years.





because some people like milk or a milk like substance to go with cereal, cookies, etc.  and they would also like it without the possibility of adverse health effects.  im just saying, as long as there is doubt to the safety of it, why risk it when there is a better tasting substitute?  the only milk i drank for 2 years was almond milk, and i had absolutely no problem getting the protein i needed plus enough to build new muscle.  however these companies could avoid the whole controversy by producing and selling fermented soy milk for those who dont trust unfermented.

one problem, here in america is ALL they sell is unfermented soymilk, most soymilk and any soy product in the far east is fermented.  fermented soy is perfectly safe and beneficial.  the asians eat very little unfermented soy, outside of edamame.



I'm trying to find out more about this fermented soy milk.  It seems that the first known case of this was in 1910 in France.  If this was true, then what did the Asian cultures do to the soy, pre-1910?  I've been to Taiwan many times and I've never had fermented soy milk.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: daussaulit]
    #12968146 - 07/28/10 07:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

interesting, i knew it was a more recent soy creation compared to the others, but i didnt realize it was created first in france, by a chinese man.

the answer is nothing, the chinese did not drink soymilk, and the vast majority still do not, unlike here in the west, the vegetarians of asia do not believe milk is evil and it is a staple, just like their fermented soy products.  they have known for thousands of years that soy is healthier and safer when fermented.

and honestly i tend to think along the lines of the asians now, why do vegetarians and vegans avoid milk?  i know that many of them claim animal rights and whatnot, which is bs, because theyre attacking milk in its entirety, when in all actuality, it is only large scale commercial milk that causes problems, there is absolutely nothing wrong with local, small and moderate scale dairy, the cows are treated well, and if there is any doubt then they should buy certified pasture fed organic milk, theres no argument there other than many people do not sit well with cows milk, but then the solution to that is one of the other various milks that humans have no problem with, such as goat milk. 

i can respect other peoples opinions and how they want to live, i just dont understand it when it comes to a few things they are adamant about, such as vegans and their severe disdain for any animal products.  i understand the egg argument, as it can become a living creature, however i cannot and never will understand their argument against honey, milk and any other non destructive animal product.  when bees,  milk and fiber(i.e wool) producing animals are raised in a non factory setting and are taken care of properly, i dont see a single argument that holds up.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12969199 - 07/28/10 11:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Fucking almond milk costs like $9 a liter round these parts.  :grrr:

I've got into a habit of just using water on muesli.  I actually put some milk on them a while ago and didn't like it as much.  :shrug: 

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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: cryptic_pickle]
    #12969224 - 07/28/10 11:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

ewww. gross.  water on any kind of cereal tastes funny to me.

make your own almond milk, its easy and half the price of store bought shit.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12969526 - 07/29/10 12:13 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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fuck that shit , steaks and pork forever. I would never sacrifivce my meat to eat bland tasteless plants and have to add salad dressing out the ass to make up for it or other kinds of covers just so i can feel like im doing something positive. im doing something beneficial to the planet y wiping out all those damn cows , pigs and shit before  they overrun the earth and take over instead of humans. havent you ever read Animal Farm? :meatwad:





listen punk, this isnt OTD or a forum for debate.  the guy wasnt asking for your opinion, he was asking for advice on becoming a vegetarian.  noone cares what YOU would or wouldnt do. keep your opinions to other forums or threads asking for your opinion. if you have no advice on being a vegetarian, then piss off.



Hey y dont u shut The fuck up and stop taking ur period out on me. He asked advice and The best advice in my opinión is to not be a vegetArian. I was simple telling him how that shit would be for his taste buds and such. I suppose u feel mighty and shit telling
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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: The24HourMC]
    #12969943 - 07/29/10 01:59 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Even though you eat meat are you telling me you've never had a tasty meal or snack without meat in it?


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: halo]
    #12971375 - 07/29/10 01:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

at first, it's hard to make the switch.

the fake meat stuff is a good way to start. that way its not gonna be to much of a shock to your taste buds like 24hourmc said.

once you make the switch meat wont taste good to you any more. animal fat will taste bad and then vegetables will taste good


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: The24HourMC]
    #12971892 - 07/29/10 03:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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fuck that shit , steaks and pork forever. I would never sacrifivce my meat to eat bland tasteless plants and have to add salad dressing out the ass to make up for it or other kinds of covers just so i can feel like im doing something positive. im doing something beneficial to the planet y wiping out all those damn cows , pigs and shit before  they overrun the earth and take over instead of humans. havent you ever read Animal Farm? :meatwad:





listen punk, this isnt OTD or a forum for debate.  the guy wasnt asking for your opinion, he was asking for advice on becoming a vegetarian.  noone cares what YOU would or wouldnt do. keep your opinions to other forums or threads asking for your opinion. if you have no advice on being a vegetarian, then piss off.



Hey y dont u shut The fuck up and stop taking ur period out on me. He asked advice and The best advice in my opinión is to not be a vegetArian. I was simple telling him how that shit would be for his taste buds and such. I suppose u feel mighty and shit telling
Me off eh? Grow up, noone else acknowledged the shit and if it bothered u that
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that wasnt advice dick, that was a lopsided opinion.  he wasnt asking whether or not to become a vegetarian, he wanted advice on how to BE a vegetarian, so once again, take your useless opinion and piss off.

grow up?  you sound like a damn 15 y/o who flunked grammar and english class several years in a row.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #12971910 - 07/29/10 03:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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at first, it's hard to make the switch.

the fake meat stuff is a good way to start. that way its not gonna be to much of a shock to your taste buds like 24hourmc said.

once you make the switch meat wont taste good to you any more. animal fat will taste bad and then vegetables will taste good





well i have to whole heartedly disagree with that. there were a few rare occasions where i was curious and took a small bite of steak or something....... holy shit.  i felt like a crackhead going into relapse.  it actually made it harder to continue after doing that.... for me anyway lol.


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    #12972022 - 07/29/10 03:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: PoC]
    #12972128 - 07/29/10 03:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

the only people who do not like vegetables in my experiences are people who had lazy or uninvolved parents who didnt give a damn about their nutritional habits.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12987989 - 08/02/10 12:38 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I am curious as to why no meat? those of you who used to eat meat but became vegetarian for years, is there a difference in quality of life in your opinion? do you feel better than before? Does meat like red meat for example lag you down or make you feel like crap? Do you run cleaner on veggies? Or is it just to save the animals?


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    #12988627 - 08/02/10 02:58 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I am curious as to why no meat? those of you who used to eat meat but became vegetarian for years, is there a difference in quality of life in your opinion? do you feel better than before? Does meat like red meat for example lag you down or make you feel like crap? Do you run cleaner on veggies? Or is it just to save the animals?




Why no meat? Have you seriously taken a look at the meat industry lately, friend? Of course it's a health choice, but also a moral one. In the end, even if you choose to keep meat as part of your diet, vegetables are the very reason for your survival since the animals you eat are herbivorous. :shrug:

I personally don't see the use in adding a mediator between me and my nutrients. And I know some will come and speak about animal proteins but in the end, vegetarianism has been around as long, if not longer, than the carnivorous diet, hence making that point void.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12988738 - 08/02/10 03:35 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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the only advice i have is......  that i went full vegetarian, well plus eggs and fish on occasion for roughly 2 years.  i felt great, i liked it at first, but in the end i slowly began to crave meat(insert joke here) and eventually decided that it wasnt for me, i decided that a diet with meat in moderation was just as healthy as full vegetarian, and thats what im sticking with.

some people love it and stick with it for life, some hate it and dont last but a few weeks, it just wasnt for me. :shrug:

ok so that wasnt really advice, the only advice i can give you is just research the hell out of it before you start, it is very important you are getting a balanced diet as a vegetarian.  it is very easy if you do your research.  i managed to pack on 10lbs of lean muscle during my 2 year stint.




This is a really good point. If you are going to do full vegetarian/ raw vegan / whatever diet.. you better do it right. Research the hell out of your foods and have tons of biodiversity in your diet. It can be difficult to get everything you need out of a vegetarian diet unless you know what you are doing.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: solstice]
    #12989393 - 08/02/10 08:42 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

> Why no meat?

For me, it is no animal protein, not just meat.  As for the why, it is a heath issue.  When I started training for triathlons, I completely revamped my diet.

> is there a difference in quality of life in your opinion? do you feel better than before?

I never really felt much different as a vegetarian.  Once I cut out eggs and dairy I noticed a huge difference.  Within just a few weeks I felt cleaner, for lack of a better word.  For a month or two after that, there were some interesting changes with my body.  I got acne for the first time since I was in high school.  I believe this was my body adapting to the lack of hormones I was picking up from eggs/dairy.  (It only lasted for a week or two.)

The quality of life bit is difficult to answer.  It is much more difficult to go out and eat with friends, or to visit family, or to have dinner with others that are not vegan.  It is also amazing the amount of vegetarian food (morning star products as an example) that are meat free but have eggs/dairy in them.  At the same time, the vegan community is fairly small and close knit group.  I've made a lot of new friends since changing my diet, simply because of my new diet.

> Or is it just to save the animals?

I suppose the moral side is nice and all, but that is not my motivation.  Most of my family were farmers and I grew up hunting and fishing.  I still eat honey, which is frowned upon by the 'true' vegans because it is mean to take honey from the bees... but for me, it is a heath issue, not a moral issue, so I don't really care.  Pure honey (not the processed crap you buy in the store) is fine by me.


> If you are going to do full vegetarian/ raw vegan / whatever diet.. you better do it right.

Yep.  I've seen a lot of very unhealthy/obese vegetarians.  Spend time studying food types and how the body processes food.  It can get very complex very quickly, but the rewards of knowing what you are eating and how the body reacts is worth the effort.  If you don't understand at least the basics of nutrition, you will probably end up doing more damage than good.

One thing I noticed, if I am craving something like meat, it usually means that I missing something that meat provides.  For me, dill pickles and blackstrap molasses tend to cure the craving.  I've never figured out what is in the pickles, but blackstrap molasses is high in iron.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: Seuss]
    #12989971 - 08/02/10 12:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

taking honey from bees is mean :smirk:

I was asking because lately i feel like crap. My thyroid is shot and i dont drink booze or smoke so im thinking meat.
Im into weight training and love meat because of the obvious protein. I mean i love meat anyways but when you work out hard you want some freakin carnitas. I usually have a portion of meat with every meal. I think its messing me up. I have been taking days off of meat and lowering my portions in general, and i feel better. I ate a NY strip the other day and i felt like crap afterwords, though it was a big meal. Im not sure if its the fact that my body needs rest from food like fasting or what. Ive read somewhere that fasting is actually good for you and a natural process that the body needs to go through.

I'm worried that I must join you to survive? NOOOOOO!!



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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: ElMeroMero]
    #12990657 - 08/02/10 03:22 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

For me that usually means cutting way back on the red meat. I go in stages where for a few weeks I'll eat a lot of meat, then I'll have to cut way down and eat mostly veggies and rice, and get most of my protein from fish, and some eggs. I don't really consider fish like a real meat.. just a good source of protein and omega 3s.

If you don't eat any meat/fish/eggs whatever at all, you need to get those complete proteins, omega 3s and 6s, and all that iron and B vitamins and whatnot from other sources. Which means combining grains and legumes and seeds, eating lots of nuts, and consuming raw leafy greens like spinach by the truckload. But there are tricks like eating superfoods loaded with certain vitamins and minerals.. like Seuss said blackstrap molasses is loaded with iron and simple sugars. Eating lots of berries and fruits loaded with antioxidants, especially blueberries, blackberries, goji berries, etc etc as well. Sweet potatoes have lots of B vitamins and complex carbs and are delicious. The key thing I think, is eating a super wide variety of foods. Stick to your staples for the basic nutrition for getting all your carbs/protein/fats etc, but eat as diverse a diet as possible.

Also honey is fucking delicious.


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    #12991041 - 08/02/10 04:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I am curious as to why no meat? those of you who used to eat meat but became vegetarian for years, is there a difference in quality of life in your opinion? do you feel better than before? Does meat like red meat for example lag you down or make you feel like crap? Do you run cleaner on veggies? Or is it just to save the animals?




Why no meat? Have you seriously taken a look at the meat industry lately, friend? Of course it's a health choice, but also a moral one. In the end, even if you choose to keep meat as part of your diet, vegetables are the very reason for your survival since the animals you eat are herbivorous. :shrug:

I personally don't see the use in adding a mediator between me and my nutrients. And I know some will come and speak about animal proteins but in the end, vegetarianism has been around as long, if not longer, than the carnivorous diet, hence making that point void.




you can search out local meat. it can be found nearly everywhere. search the phonebook for butchers in the area and ask around.  or find someone that is selling chickens, goats or pigs for meat.  chickens are cheap, goats you can find for $40-60, and pigs vary from 75-150 depending on who you know.

for some people survival means eating insects or other things that we scowl at, and catfish survive on shit.  does that mean youre going to eat shit like the shit eating catfish?

meat isnt for everyone and no meat isnt for everyone.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #12991485 - 08/02/10 05:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I am curious as to why no meat? those of you who used to eat meat but became vegetarian for years, is there a difference in quality of life in your opinion? do you feel better than before? Does meat like red meat for example lag you down or make you feel like crap? Do you run cleaner on veggies? Or is it just to save the animals?




Why no meat? Have you seriously taken a look at the meat industry lately, friend? Of course it's a health choice, but also a moral one. In the end, even if you choose to keep meat as part of your diet, vegetables are the very reason for your survival since the animals you eat are herbivorous. :shrug:

I personally don't see the use in adding a mediator between me and my nutrients. And I know some will come and speak about animal proteins but in the end, vegetarianism has been around as long, if not longer, than the carnivorous diet, hence making that point void.




you can search out local meat. it can be found nearly everywhere. search the phonebook for butchers in the area and ask around.  or find someone that is selling chickens, goats or pigs for meat.  chickens are cheap, goats you can find for $40-60, and pigs vary from 75-150 depending on who you know.

for some people survival means eating insects or other things that we scowl at, and catfish survive on shit.  does that mean youre going to eat shit like the shit eating catfish?

meat isnt for everyone and no meat isnt for everyone.




Oh man are you talking out of your ass :facepalm: I know all of that, I'm a health freak. I was just answering the question the dude asked.:shrug: And that's also why I mentioned the fact that it's a moral choice as well.


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Re: Becoming a vegetarian [Re: solstice]
    #12992105 - 08/02/10 07:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Yes thats my plan, i will take a break from red meat. I used to be a health freak too but somewhere i fell off. gets annoying counting garbs and calories but im starting up again. The whole local meat plan would be more expensive im guessing or a trip far out to the boonies so i would have to invest in a deep freezer and stock up to make it worth the trips. this health thing is difficult. Its like we still have to hunt for decent food. Or be subject to chemical infested crap at the stores. Thanks for the tips.


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    #12992313 - 08/02/10 08:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes thats my plan, i will take a break from red meat. I used to be a health freak too but somewhere i fell off. gets annoying counting garbs and calories but im starting up again. The whole local meat plan would be more expensive im guessing or a trip far out to the boonies so i would have to invest in a deep freezer and stock up to make it worth the trips. this health thing is difficult. Its like we still have to hunt for decent food. Or be subject to chemical infested crap at the stores. Thanks for the tips.




You shouldn't need to count carbs and calories to be healthy. Just use common sense about what's good for you - avoid highly processed food, sleep well, drink lots of water .etc


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