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To know for sure.
    #1284020 - 02/06/03 08:05 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

If you knew without a doubt 100% that your God existed, would'nt you spend the rest of your life trying to live out his cause? Or devote the rest of your physical life in his favor? Would'nt you have the right motivation and determination to go through the process of cultivation that god proposes in the straightest of lines?


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1284094 - 02/06/03 08:26 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

im not sure about the last thing you wrote but..YES
but if god is love- and love exsists
and god is good- and good exists
and god is truth.. shouldnt we anyway

It sounds like you know something. And if this is true im very glad to hear this. Remember if you KNOW, it is true, if theres any doubt it is either not true or could be true. This topic hits close to home....actually HOME


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1284163 - 02/06/03 08:45 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I know 100% my god exists
life is his cause
I'm living the cause right now.


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1284192 - 02/06/03 08:52 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: To know for sure. [Re: shaggy101]
    #1284199 - 02/06/03 08:53 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

It sounds like you know something.

I know nothing! (backoff rebelsteve:grin:.) 

But seriously, Im not implying anything like that.   


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1284246 - 02/06/03 09:07 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

That is to bad.



Yet I respect the honesty
hehehe.. that was a cool thread though!! :grin:!!


I KNOW.
what do you KNOW?
eerrrr..uuhh nothing? :confused:?


How do you know that?

AARRRRRRGHHGHGHGHGH!!!!!!





just tap it in... :smile: heh Bob Ross is on!



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Re: To know for sure. [Re: shaggy101]
    #1284813 - 02/06/03 11:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"im not sure about the last thing you wrote.."

Cultivation, as in the path to improvement as your god or religion sees it.
This was the main impetus for me in the last of my 'religious days'. I had doubt, and continued to probe. Probing caused more doubt... I seemed to follow a route of 'santa-clause' type believing when I was younger and resorted to more and more new age beliefs as I got older(which led me to this place, by the way.) which eventually led to a stage of pure confusion and questioning. Now all I try to do is reconcile what i DO know and exert control on my life according to that. Im not even good at it...


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: joe666]
    #1285068 - 02/06/03 12:43 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"I know 100% my god exists
life is his cause
I'm living the cause right now."

Uh-oh... aww nevermind I'd better not drag this off-topic.


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: Strumpling]
    #1285156 - 02/06/03 01:05 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yup 100% God rules


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1285175 - 02/06/03 01:10 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Now all I try to do is reconcile what i DO know and exert control on my life according to that. Im not even good at it...   


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1285187 - 02/06/03 01:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

looking at god as a being with a purpose for us, yes. if you had absolutely no doubt, and no reason to ever second guess it, it would be best to live for the cause.


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: Bavet]
    #1285188 - 02/06/03 01:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Yup 100% God rules




YAY GOD!!!


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1285469 - 02/06/03 02:59 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

As a pantheist I already know without a doubt that my god exists. And I can prove it with material evidence also!  :smile: 


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: ]
    #1285513 - 02/06/03 03:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

So your God is indifferent to you?


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1285534 - 02/06/03 03:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1285568 - 02/06/03 03:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well I don't know how you implied that from what I said, but let me address the rest of your post.

My god's cause is to exist and experience, so that's something I will always do without even trying. My god has given me Free Will to do whatever I please, and there is no "wrong" way to experience life. BUT, we do have choices to make, so I'll continue to make the choices that enable me to continue on my chosen life path.

I do wish to know my god better, and the search for knowledge is my meaning of life. There is so much we don't know about the universe and this goes beyond physicality.


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: shaggy101]
    #1285570 - 02/06/03 03:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

GREAT link there man! Interesting stuff, I can definately relate!


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: ]
    #1285602 - 02/06/03 03:51 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"Well I dont know how you implied that from I said"

Well the universe is generally indifferent to the fates of men. You refer to the universe as your god so, I asked a question to confirm this idea.


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: ]
    #1286330 - 02/06/03 07:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

how do you know what your chosen life path is? does it just feel right what you are doing?


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Re: To know for sure. [Re: David_Scape]
    #1286745 - 02/06/03 09:02 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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So your God is indifferent to you?




I'm also drawn to pantheism and I say, Absolutely! An indifferent, non-intervening god makes much more sense. How else does one reconcile the scripture that says that man cannot be saved in ignorance? In the context it's often used, it means that we will be damned for not accepting God/his son/his Church. This makes no sense to me. If I put my eggs in the 'wrong' basket and I die ignorant of this literal god and I am condemned eternally for it, is this just?

But if God is defined as the totality of nature, and his decrees written not in the Bible or another book but in the laws of nature and reason, this idea makes sense. If a person steps off a cliff, ignorance of the principle of gravitly won't save that person.


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