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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14357571 - 04/26/11 08:40 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)

What's wrong with that? It's always available. My email password is 14 (unique) characters long and never sent in the clear. My password database is run through 6000 passes of 256-bit AES. I could upload it to rapid share and spam the link all over the internet or load up thousands of flash drives the the file and litter them across a major city and still be thousands of times safer than anyone using passwords such as mYd0g12


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: Bacchus]
    #14662574 - 06/23/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Everyone should checkout KeePass. It allows you to generate extremely powerful random passwords (with mouse input) and keep all of your passwords in one place with encryption.


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: MycoRunner]
    #14880425 - 08/06/11 09:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm
This site is extremely secure and the most reliable way of testing your passwords. It also offers a professional tutorial on creating passwords. You'd be surprised...the age old advice of random passwords is actually less secure than you might think. I advise everyone to at least take a look.


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: Lana]
    #14935271 - 08/17/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Lana said:
Hi Everyone,
Being one of the moderators here in the Security and Safety I feel like I should address some simple security features that everyone here can perform.

Upgrade your password.

It's easy, it takes very little time to do and if you stop and think about the content on this site, well....  If there is ANY site that you visit, this should be the one that you keep protected with a strong password.

Using a combination of letters, numbers and symbols is best.  Get creative!  Put your screen name into an English to French translator then add the number of your favorite dish at your local Chinese eatery.  Combine your first lovers last name with current lovers birth date :wink:

If there's one thing I know about Shroomery members, it's that they're the most creative and innovative people around!  So with that in mind, go ahead and update your login password. 

You'll be thankful you did!

Have a nice day,
Lana




I read somewhere that we have trained people to use combinations of difficult to remember words with symbols and numbers. Mostly people always pick &1 &2 #5 $8, zeros instead of o's, 1's instead of l's.
It's actually harder, mathematically for a computer to guess your password if you pick 4 distinct words in a random order.

http://xkcd.com/936/

Edited by longbong (08/17/11 01:15 AM)

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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: longbong]
    #14935551 - 08/17/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

^I saw from Xer0's post that length (using "padding") is one of the most important things.

I find you only have to remember a password for about a week or so, typing it in then becomes muscle memory. With that in mind, maybe avoid the characters ! 1 2 3 5 @ $ # & 0  since they are used in most people's passwords.

maybe you can combine the idea from your post and Xer0's; have a random string, padded with repeating words?

e.g.

random: IwZ%L8VG72
padding words: sky, iron

skyironskyIwZ%L8VG72skyironskyironskysky


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: Green_T]
    #14935563 - 08/17/11 02:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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^I saw from Xer0's post that length (using "padding") is one of the most important things.

I find you only have to remember a password for about a week or so, typing it in then becomes muscle memory. With that in mind, maybe avoid the characters ! 1 2 3 5 @ $ # & 0  since they are used in most people's passwords.

maybe you can combine the idea from your post and Xer0's; have a random string, padded with repeating words?

e.g.

random: IwZ%L8VG72
padding words: sky, iron

skyironskyIwZ%L8VG72skyironskyironskysky



You've got the idea! :thumbup:
At the end of the day though, it all comes down to how long it'll take before 'they' eventually stumble onto your password and whether it stays constant or not. That's what GRC's Haystack calculator is for....

I definitely understand the muscle memory aspect of typing in passwords. One of my daily-use passwords is at least 25 characters long. In the beginning it was a pain to type in but now my fingers just go where they should and I'm in!

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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: Lana]
    #15117903 - 09/22/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I use a password manager which stores all my username + password combos in an encrypted database and automatically enters them into the username and password fields for me. This way I can use insanely complicated passwords and use a different password for each site because I don't have to remember them.


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: CrimpJiggler]
    #15118441 - 09/22/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I use a password manager which stores all my username + password combos in an encrypted database and automatically enters them into the username and password fields for me. This way I can use insanely complicated passwords and use a different password for each site because I don't have to remember them.



Not bad...but I sure as hell hope you have multiple backups of that database lying around somewhere safe. The last thing you want is to lose it. Also, make sure the password to your database is fucking strong. If it ever has a chance of being compromised, you're fucked.


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: XeR0]
    #15122016 - 09/23/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Not bad...but I sure as hell hope you have multiple backups of that database lying around somewhere safe. The last thing you want is to lose it. Also, make sure the password to your database is fucking strong. If it ever has a chance of being compromised, you're fucked.




Yeah that'd be shit. I reinstall my OS every couple of months so I save this db to my external harddrives regularly. The program I use is keepassx (for Windows its just keepass) which lets you export the db as an XML file.


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: CrimpJiggler]
    #15825217 - 02/17/12 08:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The two websites linked below are great ways to test your current passwords strength, and can help you make a new more secure password. 

http://howsecureismypassword.net/

http://makemeapassword.net/

Sorry about posting in an old topic, but I think my information is valid.

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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: cokane]
    #15846149 - 02/22/12 04:56 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

A few good password tips I've heard are:

#1
Take a famous quote that you know and use the first or last letter of every word as your password.

"A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back to its old dimensions."
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

yields

amtisbanecngbtiod

Then you can toggle case and/or replace a specific letter with a number or special character.

$mt1sb$necngbt1od (a=$, i=1)

That password would take about 13 trillion years to crack.

#2
This can be combined with #1 if you'd like, and will make all your passwords unique.

Basically, dedicate your self to remember a single complex password and then append the fist few letters of any site/application you visit/use to the front of that password and/or a number that is significant to that site to the end of the password.

exp.
Assuming that I'm using the complex password from above, the password for shroomery would be.

SHR$mt1sb$necngbt1od05  (first three letters of shroomery/strong PW/registration year)

That password would take about 40 septillion years to crack.

Of course you might want to use a shorter quote to make it easier for yourself.


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: cokane]
    #15963910 - 03/18/12 04:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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cokane said:
The two websites linked below are great ways to test your current passwords strength, and can help you make a new more secure password. 

http://howsecureismypassword.net/

http://makemeapassword.net/

Sorry about posting in an old topic, but I think my information is valid.



I'd be wary of using those websites. Not saying they're fake or something but I noticed that the connection to the website isn't encrypted with Secure SSL or HTTPS. Therefore, any password you type could potentially be sniffed or logged by the website or anyone sniffing your internet traffic. This is why I mentioned GRC's website ( https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm ) because not only is the company CEO a former NASA computer manager who also develops some of the world's most renowned computer tools (example: SpinRite), but the websites' connection is ENCRYPTED. Therefore, you can have a peace of mind knowing that whatever password you type into that website won't be sniffed or logged....not unless your own computer is compromised in the first place. Please be careful when testing your passwords on an unencrypted website connection.


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: XeR0]
    #15964869 - 03/18/12 08:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah the password you type could be sniffed, but I am only typing in a password, and no user name, so they could only have one part of two-factor authentication (user name and password). I started playing with HTTPS Finder for Firefox. It tells you when the website you are on offers HTTPS, and will setup rules, I wish the website offered HTTPS to non supporters.

Besides the fact that you are already in bad shape if someone is sniffing your packets to begin with; your probably already screwed. Changing passwords is a preventive security measure. Brute force cracking software usually cracks passwords offline to avoid being locked out of the system for to many failed log in attempts, so having the strongest password is imperative.

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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: MycoRunner]
    #16655236 - 08/06/12 05:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Everyone should checkout KeePass. It allows you to generate extremely powerful random passwords (with mouse input) and keep all of your passwords in one place with encryption.




im a proud keepass user aswell for important things like financial logins, email/wifi(wpa2 change monthly or close to it) etc. for this website and other no offense shroomery but i use an easy password and i have keepass on my phone/laptop/backups any major changes i update everything :wink: use the builtin generator with lots of characters (10+) using all supported types upper/lower/space/symbols/digits subject to change if say my bank pin can only be numbers between 4-20... ill go for 20 or a healthy middle ground :wink: aint no one breaking my stuff (omfg whats ith everyone using websites to generate passwords? they probably arent even random! or a random pool of random passwords in their database!!! so they'll have a wordlist of weenies that have used it) EVERYTHING MUST HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL PASSWORD!!! dont be one of those one password to rule them all douches keepass learn it, know it and use it!

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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: pen15]
    #16755038 - 08/29/12 03:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Lastpass is a great piece of software -- syncs passwords between computers / browsers

works as a plugin for most major browsers and encrypts everything locally using a master password

one of the features I find myself using frequently is generating passwords -- can use a semi-random unique password for each site you visit regularly without having to worry about losing it

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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: Lana]
    #17423099 - 12/20/12 04:33 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I'm astonished that I'm the first person to post this (via XKCD):



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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: Bacchus]
    #17511956 - 01/07/13 12:50 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I like to use KeePassX (or Keepass for you windows users) to manage my passwords. It stores passwords in a strongly encrypted database that can be easily transported between computers. You just have to remember one strong password to unlock the database. Inside, you can have a different password for every account. It has an excellent built-in password generator with lots of good options.

The part that I really love is that you can have the program sitting, locked in your system tray. When you want to log into a web page, just hit the keyboard command (CTRL+ALT+Shift+A by default) and the program will prompt for your master password, match the active website to the entry in the database, enter the user/pass, submit the form, and lock the database again all the while keeping your password protected in system memory.

If you want to copy the password for some reason, KeePass will securely erase your clipboard after a defined period of time. How awesome is that?!

It's open source and cross platform. I've used it on windows, Apple, and Linux.

Why settle for using the same one or two passwords for every single site when you can have a unique, 30 character, alphanumeric, mixed case, special character password for each one? Using the same password for everything, even if it's strong, is leaving yourself vulnerable. If any one of the sites you visit are compromised, your username/password combo could be cracked and circulated. Believe me, plenty of nasty people have text files full of both user/pass pairs and dictionary words that are hundreds of megabytes and even gigabytes in size.

Sorry. I'll get off my soapbox now. Passwords are just something I feel strongly about. My girlfriend of two years asked me for the password to unlock my linux box and I almost broke up with her. (Ok, maybe not...)




A big thanks for recommending this software, especially in the light of the security leak at this site. That really had me panicked a little. But thanks to you, I'll never run into this kind of problem again. +5 :mushroom2:


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #17753821 - 02/06/13 01:43 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I keep mine nice and simple I have nothing to hide since I cannot be tracked by I.P. addy and always use a faked MAC address. the only way you could ever find me is by radio triangulation and if you want me that bad you gotta work for it. :psycrankey: and no I am not using a proxy for the I.P. the only good servers are Russian or Offshore.


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Re: Ever think about upgrading your password... [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #17753832 - 02/06/13 01:47 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Keypass, great piece of freeware to create a 256- bit Encrypted password vault, it's worth the download for sure.

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