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Invisiblecottlestonpie
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Idea on hydration for cakes?
    #1281820 - 02/05/03 01:53 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I was smoking some bud and got to thinking. I am about to birth a few cakes in the next day or so and I was trying to make a decision on how to hydrate my setup. I was entertaining the idea of sticking a straw in the middle of the cake like the resivoir tek(sp? sorry stoned) but instead of supplying the water every day with a syringe I was thinking of elevating the cake somehow and then sticking the straw up through the bottom rather than through the top. Then instead of supplying the water with the syringe supplying the water with a small tub or cup of water. My reasoning for this idea being that instead of having to add water everyday or a couple time a day the cake would take water as needed from the cup kinda like how a plant gets water through the ground with its roots. Would this work like that or would the water just sit there? would it work if i covered the cup and had no way for the water to escape except through the straw? If this did work would it get too much water? This was just idea i was entertaining and wanted some input, i'll probally put it to the test in the next couple of days if anyone thinks it is at all possible


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: cottlestonpie]
    #1281842 - 02/05/03 02:01 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

You must be smoking more then bud cause thats really stupid. Stick to the teks. And a pool of water underneathe can work but your just inviting contams. And i dont really get the stick the straw threw the bottom? that would work if there wasnt gravity i guess. Leave that expierement up to the astraunots at nasa.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: cottlestonpie]
    #1281843 - 02/05/03 02:01 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

There is so much info on hydrating cakes. Check out the FAQs.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: cottlestonpie]
    #1281855 - 02/05/03 02:07 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

That sound like a pretty cool idea. If I were to try it, I'd consider using several small straws - like the kind you stir coffie with - and dunk the cakes overnight with the straws inserted. That way they are primed and full of water. In the vascular system of a tree, once the "chain" of water is broken, that vessel can never be used again.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1281858 - 02/05/03 02:07 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

damn dude no need for hostility it was just a thought, i know there are plenty of ways to hydrate i was just fucking around. I wont express anykind of thinking anymore i'll just put down other people so I can be like you


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: cottlestonpie]
    #1281862 - 02/05/03 02:09 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

:confused:  No dude I like your ideas and all but it sounded like you had no way of hydrating them (perlite) and you were wondering how to supply hydration.

If it sounded like I was getting hostile I wasn't.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: cottlestonpie]
    #1281864 - 02/05/03 02:10 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

there would be no gain in sticking the straw in the bottom.
roots are part of the plant and the are actually in the water.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1281871 - 02/05/03 02:13 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

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You must be smoking more then bud cause thats really stupid. Stick to the teks.



This is a shitty attitude. "Stick to the teks?" Come on bro, this is how discoveries are made. I agree that it MAY not be the best idea, it may even do harm. But it might work like a charm.

In theory, I think the idea had merit.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1281874 - 02/05/03 02:13 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

so would the straw but i just wasnt sure it would take the water from the cup it was just a thought i wanted to bring up.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: cottlestonpie]
    #1281875 - 02/05/03 02:14 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I dont think it would. Maybe placing a paper towel over your cake and have the ends going into water would work. The paper towel would absorb the water and onto the cake and the mushrooms would rip through it.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1281880 - 02/05/03 02:16 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

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there would be no gain in sticking the straw in the bottom.
roots are part of the plant and the are actually in the water.



Were looking at physics here, not a biomechanical root system. Skip the idea of roots and look at some of the ways water is driven through a plant once it passes the roots.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: cottlestonpie]
    #1281883 - 02/05/03 02:17 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

i know the straw would be in water but it wouldn't suck water up cause of gravity.
think of it like this. the mycelium is the roots. when its in the ground it takes water from the dirt. mycelium can drown and roots cant.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: SixCee]
    #1281892 - 02/05/03 02:19 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

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Maybe placing a paper towel over your cake and have the ends going into water would work. The paper towel would absorb the water and onto the cake and the mushrooms would rip through it.


This is another neat idea in theory. I'd think you'd have to be super carefull about contams though.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1281893 - 02/05/03 02:20 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

ok i was just wondering if it would but after some of this feedback it seems it wouldnt. Thanks everyone


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: cottlestonpie]
    #1281905 - 02/05/03 02:25 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

if u stick with the hobby long enough u'll come back to this post and laugh.
it was brought about by weed and lack of knowledge. I have said some real stupid stuff and still do so dont take negetive comments to heart.
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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1281918 - 02/05/03 02:31 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

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i know the straw would be in water but it wouldn't suck water up cause of gravity.
think of it like this. the mycelium is the roots. when its in the ground it takes water from the dirt. mycelium can drown and roots cant.



Yes, you can get the straw to suck up water. You know how a straw can hold a column of water when you cap it with your finger? The same concept applies here. This is why I suggested priming the straws with water. The spongy mycelium and cake material may be enough to effectively "cap" the end. Also, I suggested really skinny straws - not only would this increase the likeliness that the cake would seal off the one end, but adhesion and the capillary effect will be increased as well.

As the cake loses water, either by giving it off or by drawing it for growth, water would be drawn through the straws against gravity. Look up transpiration. How do you thin 100 foot tall trees move hundreds of pounds of water to their very tops?


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: Theta]
    #1281933 - 02/05/03 02:37 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I like the idea in theory. It may not well work at all. If it does work, it may be quite unneccessary. However, it could work great and increase yields.

No one will ever know without experimnetation.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: Theta]
    #1281939 - 02/05/03 02:38 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

the difference between ur finger and a cake is ur finger holds the pressure. the cake would not. too much air going threw the cake to keep the water in the straw.



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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: Theta]
    #1281944 - 02/05/03 02:39 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

i know i should probally put this idea to death but I had one more thought and i'll be done, would cut up sponge stuffed into a straw and have one end in the cake and the other in water work? it would seem that this would soak up the appropriote water into the cake but i'm sure i'll get hell for posting this as well.


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Re: Idea on hydration for cakes? [Re: Theta]
    #1281946 - 02/05/03 02:39 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

if this is all about increasing yield do friggen bulk. cakes are ment for small personal use operations.


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