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InvisiblePapa_Smurf
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casing straw
    #1281120 - 02/05/03 10:25 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Tried searching, but the shroomery search engine is well.... awful.

A friend of mine has straw that has been spawned with rye. He hasn't had the best luck with casings (but has had tremendous success with straw for some reason). So he posed the following questions.

1.Will there be a huge difference in yields if not cased (similar to the difference in yields with casing cakes vs. not casing them), or will the difference be less noticeable?

2. What casing material is best suited to RESIST CONTAMS?(please don't say 50/50+, because the right concentration hydrated lime is nowhere to be found).


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Re: casing straw [Re: Papa_Smurf]
    #1281142 - 02/05/03 10:30 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

50/50+: http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7977

i use slightly less hydrated lime to "be safe" and never contam.


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Re: casing straw [Re: Bilge]
    #1281582 - 02/05/03 12:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ya, he's used this method before, but was hoping there was something better or different out there, because when the hydrated lime was used, there was almost no colonization of the casing layer (and yes, the lime WAS NOT dolomitic). When the lime was not used, the casings were far more prone to infection.

On another note:

Is it safe to case the straw before it is fully colonized (say its about 90-95% finished)?

Thanks all


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Re: casing straw [Re: Papa_Smurf]
    #1281670 - 02/05/03 01:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Id say case it... Only because straw can contaminate pretty easily.

Id do a 50/50 of COCO coir and Verm.... that works great :wink:


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Re: casing straw [Re: Papa_Smurf]
    #1281679 - 02/05/03 01:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

here:

one) directory of info compiled by someone who is lightyears ahead of us all:
Ultimate Mycodirectory v4.0 (scroll to straw)

And check over at two) Mycotopia.net and search for Old Timer's Straw Tek (brilliant, I say... but from there you can follow a lot of diff teks that will get you thro)


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Re: casing straw [Re: Papa_Smurf]
    #1281832 - 02/05/03 01:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I use crush limestone, and have used gypsum before and never had problems with contams either way.


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