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SuicideCommando
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Bathroom as a glovebox?
#12811100 - 06/27/10 08:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I need to make a spore syringe soon and knock up some dark rye jars and I don't have a glovebox. So far with all my grows I have just sprayed down a small bathroom with lysol and kept the door closed all day then gone in with a mask and gloves and did my knocking up there, but I'm a little more paranoid about ruining things when making a syringe. I know the point of a glovebox is to restrict airflow so I was wondering if what I have been doing is actually ok to do and can I get away with it for making the syringe? The whole bathroom and everything in it would be sprayed with tons of lysol and I would have a mask and gloves and a clean shirt and my arms would have been scrubbed clean with soap and hot water, the door would be closed all day so air isn't moving around in it from the rest of the house, etc. This way I would have unrestricted space to work and be able to have all my jars there on the counter, a shotglass burning some alcohol to sterilize the needle, etc. Gonna work or too much of a gamble?
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Your bathroom has one of the highest bacteria counts per square inch then anywhere in the house/apartment.
Just do it like in your room or something. Shut off your air conditing and or fans and wait 20-30 minutes for the air to settle in your house. Then get to work if you don't have a glovebox then work fast. A glovebox would make you that much safer.
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Sure seems like it will be a lot of work, because there are tons of bacteria in most bathrooms, I recommend using a large clear trash bag as a glove box. Put everything in it, fog with lysol and tie it off. Now grab stuff right on the outside of the bag and use it. I used this method with good results for quite a while before I built my glovebox
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Re: Bathroom as a glovebox? [Re: Damion5050]
#12811146 - 06/27/10 08:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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ya, you can make one out of a cardboard box, or even a clear big trashbag if you have one. the ideal is still air in an enclosed working area. So if you can find a big box, cut 2 holes for your hands, cut the top off and replace it with seran wrap and add tape. your good to go. spray the inside down with some soapy water before you work. it helps catch anything that does get in.
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I know I have read a couple members here say that's what they're working with and they even do g2g. It can work, like rubbing two sticks together can make fire. It's archaic as hell. Lysol is full of shit you don't want on your skin. You want the air to be still, so if your bathroom has a vent fan leave it off. Mine comes on when you turn the light on, and it's been that way in the last two houses I lived in. Most houses have the vents wired to a separate switch though I guess. Anyhow, yes it can work. It is higher risk than using a glovebox, or laminar flow hood but I think you knew that already. Just cut some holes in a cardboard box and cover in saran wrap. Then you won't get disinfectant on your skin or in your eyes. Tao
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Re: Bathroom as a glovebox? [Re: SomeGuy]
#12811154 - 06/27/10 08:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean techniqually all u need for a simple glovebox or still air box is like a plastic container and you can either cut arm holes in it or turn it on its side and your arms can go in the opening and it will give you basic protection from anything falling out of the air and onto the top of your jars. It isnt as good as a well built glovebox but it will work in a pinch.
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Re: Bathroom as a glovebox? [Re: fungus_tao]
#12811162 - 06/27/10 08:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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My other thought was using my old shotgun fc somehow, maybe taping plastic wrap all over it to block the holes and cut 2 large holes for my hands. But then my shotgun fc would be gone
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Other thought, how does one sterilize the needle in a glovebox? Just keep the flame outside and take your arm out between each jar?
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No listen wrap it in plastic wrap then lay it on it's side and use the top which is now facing you as your whole. It is one big whole get it ? It will keep things from fallind down onto the jars. Then when your done you can still use your FC minus the saran wrap.
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When you flush your toilet, if you dont put the lid down the force of the flush causes invisible spray that coats pretty much every possible surface in your bathroom.
I swear Im not even lying. Look it up. After I saw this I ALWAYS put the lid down before I flush. AND keep my toothbrush in the cupboard.
Nastiness.
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Make a glove box out of a cardboard box and some seran wrap if you have to...cheap (possibly free if you already have the seran wrap).
If the box is big enough,flame sterilize the needle in the box,if not,remve from box and flame sterilize,then wipe down with a ISO Alcohol in the box.
You'd be surprised at how not clean a bathroom is.You know how many shit spores fly up when you flush the toilet...how many of those shit spores land on your toothbrushes?!
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A plastic tote to make a still-air box can be bought brand new for the price of two cans of Lysol. Actually, Lysol won't help clean the air anyway. It's a surface disinfectant.
Search google for 'bacteria on shower curtains' for all you ever wanted to know about how filthy bathrooms are. In addition, it's where you defecate, and the sink drain is also a breeding ground for bacteria.
Probably the only room less suited to mycology is the kitchen.
Build a glove or still air box. Those who brag about doing 'sterile' work in bathrooms or kitchens remind me of drunks who brag about driving home shitfaced from the bar. RR
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Re: Bathroom as a glovebox? [Re: MattyBong]
#12811186 - 06/27/10 08:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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MattyBong said: When you flush your toilet, if you dont put the lid down the force of the flush causes invisible spray that coats pretty much every possible surface in your bathroom.
I swear Im not even lying. Look it up. After I saw this I ALWAYS put the lid down before I flush. AND keep my toothbrush in the cupboard.
Nastiness.
Yea I am aware of this. After I learned that I always put the toilet seat down before I flush too lol
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I saw a post where RR said he has a little hole in the side to stick the needle out of the box to flame. I flame on the stove and cover with an alcohol soaked paper towel, and put the whole deal in there. If your jars are sterile, cross contamination is not possible
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Re: Bathroom as a glovebox? [Re: Damion5050]
#12811190 - 06/27/10 08:53 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damion5050 said: No listen wrap it in plastic wrap then lay it on it's side and use the top which is now facing you as your whole. It is one big whole get it ? It will keep things from fallind down onto the jars. Then when your done you can still use your FC minus the saran wrap.
I believe I will do this. Thanks for the input guys. You always make me glad I posted an idea first before just doing it
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dont forget to spary it down with some soapy water
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Re: Bathroom as a glovebox? [Re: TacoHerder]
#12811202 - 06/27/10 08:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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soapy water as opposed to lysol?
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it's a popular beleif that by spraying all you are really doing is making all the contams wet and they fall or are stuck to the sides. As pointed out lysol doesn't kill bacteria in the air, only on surfaces. Several people who are knowledgable have said that plain water works as good as anything else. Thats just what I read, I use lysol
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I would do soap water with 1 cap of bleach in the water to clean the inside of the tub. Also don't use lysol you want the air to be still.
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Re: Bathroom as a glovebox? [Re: Damion5050]
#12811219 - 06/27/10 08:59 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe it has been said that many believe lyscol can cause mutations too...
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Re: Bathroom as a glovebox? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#12811221 - 06/27/10 09:00 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: A plastic tote to make a still-air box can be bought brand new for the price of two cans of Lysol. Actually, Lysol won't help clean the air anyway. It's a surface disinfectant.
RR
I was going to mention this, but you already have. Where did this misinformation come from? I haven't touched a can of lysol since I first started out with cakes.
Hell, the only alcohol I find myself using is in my lamp.
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SuicideCommando said: soapy water as opposed to lysol?
Yes. I wash all my tubs with soap and water right before spawning and that's all the cleaning/disinfectant that's needed.
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Mad_Hatter2004 said: I believe it has been said that many believe lyscol can cause mutations too...
It doesn't cause mutations. However, lysol is mostly alcohol, which is toxic to fungi. It is fine to spray a work table, but no better than rubbing alcohol, which is much cheaper. Spraying Lysol into the air is a waste of product. RR
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Re: Bathroom as a glovebox? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#12811241 - 06/27/10 09:05 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad_Hatter2004 said: I believe it has been said that many believe lyscol can cause mutations too...
It doesn't cause mutations. However, lysol is mostly alcohol, which is toxic to fungi. It is fine to spray a work table, but no better than rubbing alcohol, which is much cheaper. Spraying Lysol into the air is a waste of product. RR
Thank you for clearing that up RR
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Mad_Hatter2004 said: I believe it has been said that many believe lyscol can cause mutations too...
lysol wont do anything good that doesnt sound right, lysol wont be as effective in the longterm use of a glovebox IMO. i mean it evaporates. you want to use soapy water b/c it will not evaporate. your not looking for a contam free area if your using a glovebox. Keeping the sides wet with soapy water will catch stuff you get stiring around when you start working.
And yes plain water works as paducahovoids said, but i feel the soap causes the water to stay on the walls allot better.
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Edited by TacoHerder (06/27/10 09:09 AM)
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