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The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits
    #12800889 - 06/25/10 02:26 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

The stimulus, part of which was unemployment benefits, stopped a lot of the problems associated with our recession and economic downturn and has been pretty much necessary due to the high unemployment rate and the simple fact that these problems only get worse.

This has proven to be successful for obvious reasons, and has helped stop future problems. I unfortunately have been unemployed or underemployed for the better part of 2 years now.

I myself used to be able to get a job in a month or two tops and generally used very little unemployment, if any.

Now I am out, having to fight for just a few weeks of state extended benefits that ended for EVERYONE here in Colorado on June 5th. I dont get those because of a decision made last year that postponed me for ten weeks (which was bad enough) and waited 4 fucking months for a decision that was not made in my favor (or rationally). At least I eventually got those benefits and they waived the two weeks i did get after becoming unemployed from having to be repaid, which would have been rather pointless since of course i eventually would have gotten them.

I did work one place part time that helped out, and offset unemployment a little while making somewhat more money. I am throwing them under the bus because they are at fault for the job separation, however I have to wait for a hearing because this sat on someones desk until i called to inquire what was taking so long, and then was rushed through without being looked at.

I worked in Real Estate related jobs, administrative stuff. Now that market is fucked. Thank you GOP!

I am now stuggling to find SOMETHING and getting the same old bullshit from places, I used to work good jobs and now I and plenty of Americans are getting absolutely nothing, and if I could find a job I would. I live with my parents so at least I am not out on the streets.

Tired of this shit, tired of struggling, and now I have to hear that the GOP has once again fucked over the American worker and that I have to deal with possibly not even getting a few weeks of benefits, on top of being blindsided about not even getting the meager unemployment benefits that where keeping my head above water.

I really just want a decent job that is stable and is at least part time. What i really want is to go back to making 10 bucks an hour or so full time. I need to get back on my feet and have no idea what to do anymore. I really hope the place I interviewed with through my friend wants to hire me when they get situated in their new place. It would be a great job.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #12800930 - 06/25/10 02:49 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

man i hope it gets better for you, I'm on my last month of unemployment benefits and don't know what I'm gonna do when its over..
cant get a job..maybe ill give crime a chance.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #12801186 - 06/25/10 05:26 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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The stimulus, part of which was unemployment benefits, stopped a lot of the problems associated with our recession and economic downturn and has been pretty much necessary due to the high unemployment rate and the simple fact that these problems only get worse.

This has proven to be successful for obvious reasons, and has helped stop future problems. I unfortunately have been unemployed or underemployed for the better part of 2 years now.




Sounds like the spendulus hasn't done jack shit if you can't find a job after two years.

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I worked in Real Estate related jobs, administrative stuff. Now that market is fucked. Thank you GOP!




Thank Carter and Clinton, as they were the architects of the CRA which was the nexus of the housing bubble.

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I live with my parents so at least I am not out on the streets.




Much easier to bum off somebody else... if not the government, then why not your parents.  There are plenty of jobs out there.  Maybe not the dream job you always wanted, and you might *gasp* have to lower your standard of living, but there are jobs available for people that are willing to work.

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What i really want is to go back to making 10 bucks an hour or so full time. I need to get back on my feet and have no idea what to do anymore.




We are hiring full time waterfront lifeguards for $12.50/hr... again, jobs are available if you are willing to go outside of your comfort zone.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #12801623 - 06/25/10 09:38 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

If they're unemployed (and have been for well over a year) how can anyone call them "workers".  They are more accurately called "not-workers".


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #12801650 - 06/25/10 09:46 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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Cannabischarlie said:
The stimulus, part of which was unemployment benefits, stopped a lot of the problems associated with our recession and economic downturn and has been pretty much necessary due to the high unemployment rate and the simple fact that these problems only get worse.

This has proven to be successful for obvious reasons, and has helped stop future problems. I unfortunately have been unemployed or underemployed for the better part of 2 years now.

I myself used to be able to get a job in a month or two tops and generally used very little unemployment, if any.

Now I am out, having to fight for just a few weeks of state extended benefits that ended for EVERYONE here in Colorado on June 5th. I dont get those because of a decision made last year that postponed me for ten weeks (which was bad enough) and waited 4 fucking months for a decision that was not made in my favor (or rationally). At least I eventually got those benefits and they waived the two weeks i did get after becoming unemployed from having to be repaid, which would have been rather pointless since of course i eventually would have gotten them.

I did work one place part time that helped out, and offset unemployment a little while making somewhat more money. I am throwing them under the bus because they are at fault for the job separation, however I have to wait for a hearing because this sat on someones desk until i called to inquire what was taking so long, and then was rushed through without being looked at.

I worked in Real Estate related jobs, administrative stuff. Now that market is fucked. Thank you GOP!

I am now stuggling to find SOMETHING and getting the same old bullshit from places, I used to work good jobs and now I and plenty of Americans are getting absolutely nothing, and if I could find a job I would. I live with my parents so at least I am not out on the streets.

Tired of this shit, tired of struggling, and now I have to hear that the GOP has once again fucked over the American worker and that I have to deal with possibly not even getting a few weeks of benefits, on top of being blindsided about not even getting the meager unemployment benefits that where keeping my head above water.

I really just want a decent job that is stable and is at least part time. What i really want is to go back to making 10 bucks an hour or so full time. I need to get back on my feet and have no idea what to do anymore. I really hope the place I interviewed with through my friend wants to hire me when they get situated in their new place. It would be a great job.








Is this not schizophrenic?

If you want government to "help" and solve problems you are in for some serious disillusionment.

They broke the economy.  They will not fix it or help you beyond anything temporary that will only make the long term situation worse.


Something for nothing will not fix anything.


Continued unemployment compensation will not help.

Find out how this all really happened and be safe.

Grow some food if you have access to a rural property.




Edited by Mr.Al (06/25/10 09:48 AM)


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #12801653 - 06/25/10 09:47 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

From what I understand, the voting down of this bill will also end the tax cuts that were put in place in '01 and '03 since their renewal was included in the bill. Does anyone know if this is accurate?


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Redstorm]
    #12801666 - 06/25/10 09:50 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

The "rich" will get soaked for taxes...


Viva class warfare!

Rich and poor screaming at each other while the culprits "fix" the problems that they caused...


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Mr.Al]
    #12802380 - 06/25/10 12:25 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Mr. Al said:
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Grow some food if you have access to a rural property.



Even people in cities can grow vegetables in pots.  We are freezing and dehydrating vegetables and fruits now, and have a freezer full of chickens.  I think the government wants to turn the U.S. into a 3rd world country.  My prediction is that the government will outlaw the raising of food or make it prohibitively expensive with fees, in the name of "safety".  But people need to keep on raising their own food no matter what the government does.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Seuss]
    #12802480 - 06/25/10 12:48 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Where do you get these delusions that trickle down socialism and "theres plenty of jobs" and all this comfort zone CRAP?

I have worked, did you even read that? First place I found was a restaurant run by a crook, he wasnt paying his trash bill, flies everywhere, was told by the health department to fix a water heater, we had no hot water to wash our hands or dishes, he was never there, and people who came after me and before me got paid less than the hours they where there for and I never got paid at all. (just tips)

I made more on unemployment, and my claim ended because I thought I would have to claim against it, so when I started working at Buca Di Beppo, I was working in a hostile workplace, 3 shifts a week and cut after 2 tables because the managers are dickwads. I should live on less than livable wage? thats bullshit. Hostile workplace!

Then when I was let go i got unemployment again. It allowed me to look for a reasonable and suitable job, and I did find something that paid 12 dollars an hour, and when it was realized that the guy I replaced "needed the money" and that the part time gal was just making her own hours and it seemed thats all they needed, this idiot run company let me go because I got sick for a couple of days.

Then much later i worked for another nutjob at a counter service Mexican restaurant. I and other male workers where subject to gender discrimination, i was recording my hours against unemployment but she was using harassing tactics and I am even filing with the Equal Opportunity Employment office. This nutjob would call me on a day that I wasnt scheduled to work and expect me to be available and on call to work at a moments notice, and working two shifts at seperate parts of the day but always being sent home early on the morning shift, and she lied more than she told the truth. Hostile workplaces for minimum wage.

Then i was hired on the spot at a fine dining restaurant chain. Was let go for trivial reasons. "You are a nice guy but this isnt a good fit" Why? Because most people who start there dont.

I apply to plenty of jobs, I go way outside my comfort zone. I get the run around from tons of places, i spend gas to go to interviews where no one even calls back.

Sorry, but theres tons of people who should be doing something else instead of managing some of these retail places, restaurants, etc, and people dont give a fuck about their employees. I should work in an overly stressful zone, where my job is continuously hung over my head and because the Bush Administration created a record low number of jobs, destroyed the economy, and now there is plenty of people having to do exactly what I am doing, trying to work jobs they are NOT suited for, not being able to pay for their house, their kids, their car, or anything else, and when i went from only using a month or two of unemployment to using YEARS worth of it, and being underemployed and stressed and not able to make ends meet, it makes me realize your crackpot economics dont work.

Look around. Theres not tons of jobs out there. The stimulus is working, and the reason the Banana Republicans want this to end is because its working. I haven't turned down ANYTHING. Yet people act like its the American Workers fault that millions are in this mess. I am sure a million people arent lazy lowlifes.

I go on a job interview today. Its in Real Estate. Wish me luck!


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: HippieChick8]
    #12802537 - 06/25/10 01:04 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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HippieChick8 said:
Mr. Al said:
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Grow some food if you have access to a rural property.



Even people in cities can grow vegetables in pots.  We are freezing and dehydrating vegetables and fruits now, and have a freezer full of chickens.  I think the government wants to turn the U.S. into a 3rd world country.  My prediction is that the government will outlaw the raising of food or make it prohibitively expensive with fees, in the name of "safety".  But people need to keep on raising their own food no matter what the government does.




Already happening - watch CODEX and the poisonous, alleged "Food Safety Bill" - already trying to get it done....


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #12803014 - 06/25/10 02:22 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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Cannabischarlie said:
(just tips)




Look around. Theres not tons of jobs out there. The stimulus is working, and the reason the Banana Republicans want this to end is because its working.




If the stimulus is working then why aren't there tons of jobs.  Good fucking god when will stop blaming other people for how much you fail?
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I haven't turned down ANYTHING. Yet people act like its the American Workers fault that millions are in this mess. I am sure a million people arent lazy lowlifes.




There are tens of millions of lazy low lifes.  I'm staring to think I might be reading posts from some of them.
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I go on a job interview today. Its in Real Estate. Wish me luck!




Do you have a real estate license?  Or are you just a gopher?


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #12803105 - 06/25/10 02:36 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

Did any Democrats vote to end unemployment benefits or are you just assuming?  Washington is dominated by Democrats right now.  With your blatantly obvious wrong assumptions, there is obviously something wrong with your brain.  This must have something to do with your unemployment.  We need eugenic programs to stop people like you from reproducing.

ALSO STOP SMOKING MARIJUANA!!! IF YOU LOOK LIKE A SHIT FACED DOPE FIEND PEOPLE WON'T HIRE YOU.

Business Leader Slams 'Hostile' Policies on Jobs

By ELIZABETH WILLIAMSON And DARRELL A. HUGHES

WASHINGTON—Verizon Communications Inc. Chief Executive Ivan Seidenberg, current head of one of the nation's most influential business groups, slammed the Obama administration for decisions he said "create an increasingly hostile environment for investment and job creation."

In comments marking one of the sharpest breaks between top executives and the Obama White House, Mr. Seidenberg used a speech at Washington's Economic Club to unleash a list of policy grievances over taxes, trade and financial regulation.

Mr. Seidenberg's comments are particularly notable because he heads the Business Roundtable, a group encompassing the chief executives of the nation's largest listed companies whose members have enjoyed frequent access to the president and his top aides. Its leaders have advised the White House on topics from economic recovery to health care to clean energy.

Where the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the other big business group in the capital, has been openly confrontational with the administration, the Roundtable has until now been reluctant to criticize its policies in public.

In his speech, Mr. Seidenberg praised the White House for soliciting advice from executives, saying afterward, "I've been invited to the White House for business purposes more times in the last year than in the previous 16."

But he urged the administration to "focus on the big goal," meaning job growth, "and stop trying to micromanage industries."

He characterized the U.S. corporate-tax structure as "a major impediment to international competitiveness," citing administration efforts to raise taxes on foreign earnings and slow movement on a proposed overhaul of the U.S. corporate tax code.

On trade, he said, "we need to make sure the U.S. isn't a fly-over zone when it comes to international trade and foreign investment," citing slow movement on ratifying agreements with Colombia, Panama and South Korea amid concerns by labor groups and others.

He said the Roundtable supported revamping financial-market regulation but that "the current proposals … go a step too far, imposing one-size-fits-all solutions on highly dynamic and diverse businesses." He cited in particular moves to tighten rules on derivatives trading and to give shareholders a greater say in choosing company directors.

White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said businesses would be helped by the administration's policies, including its overhaul of the health-care system and promotion of clean energy. "The president has consistently pursued policies designed to create a better climate for American businesses in order to foster job creation, innovation and economic growth," she said.

Mr. Seidenberg's criticism reflects disappointment among the Roundtable's members with both the positions the administration has taken and the way the White House has dealt with business leaders' concerns.

Mr. Seidenberg said the administration and the nation's biggest businesses—Roundtable companies pay 60% of U.S. corporate taxes and employ 12 million people— should be working more closely on efforts to bring the nation out of recession. Even though Roundtable leaders are frequently invited to meetings with the president, many feel their advice on jobs and growth too often fails to translate into policy.

Instead, he complained that "by reaching into virtually every sector of economic life, government is injecting uncertainty into the marketplace and making it harder to raise capital and create new businesses."

The Roundtable and the White House clashed during the health-care debate over whether new rules would force companies to take big charges. Administration officials later expressed surprise when companies including Caterpillar Inc. and AT&T Inc. said they had to take write-downs to cover the costs.

Mr. Seidenberg said that at the request of the White House, business leaders have prepared a report detailing "hundreds of separate actions and decisions" that stifle manufacturing, innovation and job growth. The report was sent this week to outgoing White House budget director Peter Orszag, and was released by the group Tuesday.

The report was compiled in concert with the Business Council, an industry group chiefly comprising manufacturing companies. The Council's chairman, Caterpillar Chief Executive James W. Owens, has been critical of the administration's health-care legislation, saying it has resulted in increased costs for businesses struggling to emerge from recession.

"I completely agree with what Ivan was saying about how the government needs to be removing itself from the private sector," said Roundtable member Dan DiMicco, chief executive of steelmaker Nucor Corp. "For a long time they worked through diplomacy, negotiation and compromise. But the crisis we're in today is of such magnitude that we have to have action in support of the private sector in a bold and out-front manner."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704853404575322931249166908.html


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: curenado]
    #12803683 - 06/25/10 04:32 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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curenado said:
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HippieChick8 said:
Mr. Al said:
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Grow some food if you have access to a rural property.



Even people in cities can grow vegetables in pots.  We are freezing and dehydrating vegetables and fruits now, and have a freezer full of chickens.  I think the government wants to turn the U.S. into a 3rd world country.  My prediction is that the government will outlaw the raising of food or make it prohibitively expensive with fees, in the name of "safety".  But people need to keep on raising their own food no matter what the government does.




Already happening - watch CODEX and the poisonous, alleged "Food Safety Bill" - already trying to get it done....




Have you read that bill? I'm not sure it states what you think it does.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #12803739 - 06/25/10 04:42 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

The Senate vote was 57-41, how did the Republican minority "kill unemployment aid"?.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: despisedicon]
    #12803925 - 06/25/10 05:24 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

That is what I was wondering.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #12805071 - 06/25/10 09:13 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

If you are trained in real-estate you should consider migrating to a large Canadian city. Real-estate is a large market with reasonable steady growth in Canada, nothing like what happened in the us will happen here. Smaller towns are subject to the volatility of their major industries but you could use that  as an "in" in the cases of recovery. Then you can always return to the states when they recover, or if you would prefer you may be allowed to stay.

Shit, I make $14 an hour + get lots of overtime at my non-union job,with good worker safety and appreciation protocols to boot. That's just for unskilled work, If I find a job using my training I will make over $20 an hour. Too bad i am so busy working over time and moving I've often forget to look for those jobs.

Apply for a workers visa, sure as shit is probibly better than living in the US. But whatever you do, don't let Americans figure out that all these "socialist hellholes" are actually great places to live and work, nobody anywhere in such countries wants to be swamped with skilled/unskilled Americans competing for work. Then there would be actually having to live with them, no offense meant to you, but some Americans are total fucking douchebags. Thank god american media is so full of anti-Canadian propaganda which appeals almost specifically to them.


On the other hand if you have access to agricultural land I really think you should just grow drugs, seems to be the only worthwhile growth economy in the US.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: HippieChick8]
    #12805124 - 06/25/10 09:26 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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HippieChick8 said:
Mr. Al said:
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Grow some food if you have access to a rural property.



Even people in cities can grow vegetables in pots.  We are freezing and dehydrating vegetables and fruits now, and have a freezer full of chickens.  I think the government wants to turn the U.S. into a 3rd world country.  My prediction is that the government will outlaw the raising of food or make it prohibitively expensive with fees, in the name of "safety".  But people need to keep on raising their own food no matter what the government does.




Growing one's own food is a natural inalienable right, and a responsibility.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Redstorm]
    #12805604 - 06/25/10 11:46 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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Redstorm said:
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curenado said:
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HippieChick8 said:
Mr. Al said:
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Grow some food if you have access to a rural property.



Even people in cities can grow vegetables in pots.  We are freezing and dehydrating vegetables and fruits now, and have a freezer full of chickens.  I think the government wants to turn the U.S. into a 3rd world country.  My prediction is that the government will outlaw the raising of food or make it prohibitively expensive with fees, in the name of "safety".  But people need to keep on raising their own food no matter what the government does.




Already happening - watch CODEX and the poisonous, alleged "Food Safety Bill" - already trying to get it done....




Have you read that bill? I'm not sure it states what you think it does.




Don't worry, the government would not write a bill that would (intentionally or unintentionally) harm you and yours.:sun:

It is the same with the money supply, they are looking out for your best interests when prices by far outpace the growth of wages!

It is to improve your work ethic comrade!:cheers:


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Mr.Al]
    #12806813 - 06/26/10 08:26 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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Don't worry, the government would not write a bill that would (intentionally or unintentionally) harm you and yours.:sun:

It is the same with the money supply, they are looking out for your best interests when prices by far outpace the growth of wages!

It is to improve your work ethic comrade!:cheers:




Nice bit of rhetoric. Was there a point to your post? I think you could have looked up the law and find the supposed part which makes it illegal to grow your own plants and then return here and post it more quickly than it took you to put together that idiotic drivel.


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Re: The Banana Republicans giving American workers the shaft by blocking unemployment benefits [Re: Redstorm]
    #12808051 - 06/26/10 02:25 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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Redstorm said:
Was there a point to your post?




It appears to me he was being facetious.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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