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drug dogs and dmt
#12791957 - 06/23/10 05:32 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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are ther any drugdogs that can smell dmt....or do they have any hood-top test for it's identification like coke or heroine?....and do they have dogs for mescaline....would they smell it like amphetamines as that they are closely related???
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: mothballs]
#12792087 - 06/23/10 05:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes. from either the sodium hydroxide (NaHo) or the naptha used in the extraction process, the dogs will smell it because they are trained to search for those chemicals used in meth. it will also field test positive for meth.
mescaline im not sure about but i personally know this about dmt
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not that i doubt it....but how do you know?...thanx
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: mothballs]
#12792463 - 06/23/10 06:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm sure dogs can be detect DMT but I HIGHLY doubt any of them are trained to do so, the majority of dogs are trained to sniff out heroin, cocaine, meth and weed. Doslen, that's a load of shit you gave about dogs sniffing out naptha and NaOH, those chemicals are found in every hardware store and many houses, dogs can smell methamphetamine why would anyone train them to smell unscheduled precursors with hundreds of legal purposes?
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Quote:
crazyboy25 said: I'm sure dogs can be detect DMT but I HIGHLY doubt any of them are trained to do so, the majority of dogs are trained to sniff out heroin, cocaine, meth and weed. Doslen, that's a load of shit you gave about dogs sniffing out naptha and NaOH, those chemicals are found in every hardware store and many houses, dogs can smell methamphetamine why would anyone train them to smell unscheduled precursors with hundreds of legal purposes?
Mobile meth labs, maybe? Beats me, all this sounds bogus. Especially the field test for meth.
And yes, drug dogs can be trained to sniff out anything; they're dogs. I highly doubt they're trained to alert on DMT specifically. The cops are out to catch the stuff that's sold and traded in high quantities (meth, x, blow, heroin, pot). I don't think DMT fits that criteria. Why would they invest the training in a dog to sniff out something that's already extremely rare when they can confiscate FAR more contraband by having them sniff out the other aforementioned drugs? I know dogs are trained to alert to foreign smells, and DMT is probably that, so I wouldn't chance going anywhere near where a drug dog would be if I had anything illegal on me at all.
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DoseInTheWoods3420 said: yes. from either the sodium hydroxide (NaHo) or the naptha used in the extraction process, the dogs will smell it because they are trained to search for those chemicals used in meth. it will also field test positive for meth.
mescaline im not sure about but i personally know this about dmt
There is no sodium hydroxide or naphtha in DMT. If there is you fucked up real bad.
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This comes from the NARCOTIC DETECTION STANDARDS for dog certification.
TYPE OF NARCOTICS TO BE USED FOR CERTIFICATION All K-9's must find marijuana and cocaine to certify. Other narcotics are optional to certify on. There will be two (2) stashes of each narcotic in each given area. QUANTITIES OF NARCOTIC TO BE USED FOR CERTIFICATION Cocaine Minimum amount to be used ten (10) grams per stash Maximum amount to be used twenty-eight (28) grams per stash Marijuana Minimum amount to be used one fourth (1/4) ounce per stash Maximum amount to be used two (2) ounces per stash Optional narcotics may be, but not limited to Heroin, Methamphetamine, or Opium. For these optional narcotics the quantities will stay within the limits for Cocaine.
I suppose the could be trained to find it. But it seems unlikely. And they they wont alert on the sent of naphtha or they would alert on a Zippo lighter. I have been around Drug dogs with a Zippo before.
Edited by kergan (06/23/10 07:48 PM)
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: kergan]
#12795910 - 06/24/10 10:53 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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they dont smell meth exactly. its the chemical signature that comes off of it. if the signatures are similar from a similar process than the smell will be smelt. i have seen this happen personally. as for the field test. the color may have been similar to meths color so thats why they said that bulshit but. i know FOR A FACT that dogs CAN hit on dmt.
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: kergan]
#12795921 - 06/24/10 10:58 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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im not saying that every drug dog in the usa is trained for it or that a dog wouldn't miss it from time to time. Quote:
kergan said: This comes from the NARCOTIC DETECTION STANDARDS for dog certification.
TYPE OF NARCOTICS TO BE USED FOR CERTIFICATION All K-9's must find marijuana and cocaine to certify. Other narcotics are optional to certify on. There will be two (2) stashes of each narcotic in each given area. QUANTITIES OF NARCOTIC TO BE USED FOR CERTIFICATION Cocaine Minimum amount to be used ten (10) grams per stash Maximum amount to be used twenty-eight (28) grams per stash Marijuana Minimum amount to be used one fourth (1/4) ounce per stash Maximum amount to be used two (2) ounces per stash Optional narcotics may be, but not limited to Heroin, Methamphetamine, or Opium. For these optional narcotics the quantities will stay within the limits for Cocaine.
I suppose the could be trained to find it. But it seems unlikely. And they they wont alert on the sent of naphtha or they would alert on a Zippo lighter. I have been around Drug dogs with a Zippo before.
so 50g would be enough for a dog to hit on if they were trained
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it depends on the situation
if you're worried about a dog sniffing out your DMT in an airport, chances are it isn't going to happen
however, if it's a traffic stop, the cop can signal the dog to act like it smelled something just because he wants to search you...
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DoseInTheWoods3420 said: yes. from either the sodium hydroxide (NaHo) or the naptha used in the extraction process, the dogs will smell it because they are trained to search for those chemicals used in meth. it will also field test positive for meth.
mescaline im not sure about but i personally know this about dmt
DMT field tests positive for HEROIN, not methamphetamine. i know because i found out the hard way.
edit: i should say, DMT field tests positive for heroin. i cant say it DOESNT for meth. just sayin that in my experience, police field test kits test positive for heroin when you put DMT in it.
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Edited by PilzeEssen (06/24/10 11:39 AM)
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So wait
we have one guy saying their tests test positive for meth
and one guy saying they test positive for heroin
WTF!?
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: Hut]
#12796517 - 06/24/10 12:50 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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i think police field tests are complete bullshit, and they are probably extremely inaccurate.
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: Modizu]
#12796548 - 06/24/10 12:54 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's probably just the cops misinterpreting their dumb ass tests
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: Hut]
#12796667 - 06/24/10 01:14 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yea they most likely just say, "oh its meth" or "oh it heroin" Cops don't care. I know a guy thats friend got caught with a bunch of 2C-b and tried explaining to them that it was a legal mescaline analoug, he told him. "It's a hallucinagen, PCP is a hallucinagen and its illegal. So you're under arrest."
Like WTF??? Comparing 2C-b to PCP?? Saying PCP is a hallucinogen?? Cops don't know WTF theyre talking about half the time.
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: mattritt]
#12797056 - 06/24/10 02:18 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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PCP is a hallucinogen.
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I thought PCP was classified under "Dissociative" which CAN cause hallucinations.
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: Hut]
#12797321 - 06/24/10 03:06 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: mattritt]
#12797959 - 06/24/10 04:58 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think there are multiple field tests and they all give a high degree of false positives.
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Re: drug dogs and dmt [Re: Freedom]
#12798383 - 06/24/10 06:10 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edited by waves (10/05/10 12:35 AM)
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