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Scruffy404
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Re: Fried. [Re: imatree]
#12792708 - 06/23/10 07:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Scruffy404 said: Why do people say this... Semi rare genetics?? There out there for sure and there all the same its either that strain or its not. Depends all of how you grow the pot not the genetics its self.
I have seen swagg as swagg could be a seed taken from it and grown into some bomb ass hydroponics. That heady-high could easily come from any dank ass weed.
Everything you said is wrong. Genetics work the same way in plants as they do in us. So you have the parent plants, the different parent plants have different genetics so they are different. You can keep the same genetics by cloning and that's why people do it. Genetics determine a lot about the plant, like potency, size, yield, etc. The fact that there's a seed in the bag is an indicator of why it's schwag. The female plants got pollinated, that effects the potency a lot. Then if you take the seeds and grow some sensimilla it could be much more potent. Also unless it's a hermie that pollinated itself, which in that case you would most likely get another hermie, it has the genetics of two different plants. And equally dank bud can have a totally different high. THC is not the only active cannabinoid in cannabis and the different concentrations of different cannabinoids change the high.
its people like you. I have seen it and smoked it Supposed SWAGG genetics grown the same as some DANK ass genetics guess what?
You woudnt be able to tell the difference if I smoked you it. They where both dank ass dope grown the same way. One came from a un trusted source the other was acutally g-13 from delta labs SO please don't start with this genetic bullshit. Im not saying it dosen't apply or one plant could be better then the other but not in the way your thinking.
Have you ever seen two healthy mother plants side by side different growers??
I have And guess what they look exactly the same nice vivid green standing up right holding itself with no sign of stretching Alot of bountiful full of life leafs all over... you woudn;t be able to tell the difference
And neither could you with the budding the yields where identical same fertilizer different strains but with same flowring time. You Can't tell the difference dank is dank A clone is a clone A healthy plant is healthy plant...
A fucking seed is a seed Sure you can have a awsome plant that was amazing during the flowring time you go to bud it and it could give an amzing yield You decide to clone from the mother and you flower all your clones Some yeilds fall short of being exact as the other Why? Genetics? No its how you grow the goddamn stuff...you can have the best clones on earth the dankest dope and the best seeds and still have the chance at growing swagg
And sometimes believe it or not You can't beat "nature"!!!! the plant will grow how it pleases even if you do the same to each one
Also I dont know about you but its either your High or your not Its either Body buzz indica or "headie" head-high sativa
I have never found anything else in all these weeds of the world You either smoke it and your fcuking blitzed and pass out on the toilet or the couch or your so high you can't say afucking word and walk around town for 2 hours looking for something to do...
I have never found a complex high from weed either my bodys totaly numbed out or my head is and then I crash hard and fall asleep.
Not sure what other kind of high's are out there??
mabey a light high like budlight Same price Lower kick in the ass
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Scruffy404 said: Why do people say this... Semi rare genetics?? There out there for sure and there all the same its either that strain or its not. Depends all of how you grow the pot not the genetics its self.
I have seen swagg as swagg could be a seed taken from it and grown into some bomb ass hydroponics. That heady-high could easily come from any dank ass weed.
Everything you said is wrong. Genetics work the same way in plants as they do in us. So you have the parent plants, the different parent plants have different genetics so they are different. You can keep the same genetics by cloning and that's why people do it. Genetics determine a lot about the plant, like potency, size, yield, etc. The fact that there's a seed in the bag is an indicator of why it's schwag. The female plants got pollinated, that effects the potency a lot. Then if you take the seeds and grow some sensimilla it could be much more potent. Also unless it's a hermie that pollinated itself, which in that case you would most likely get another hermie, it has the genetics of two different plants. And equally dank bud can have a totally different high. THC is not the only active cannabinoid in cannabis and the different concentrations of different cannabinoids change the high.
its people like you. I have seen it and smoked it Supposed SWAGG genetics grown the same as some DANK ass genetics guess what?
You woudnt be able to tell the difference if I smoked you it. They where both dank ass dope grown the same way. One came from a un trusted source the other was acutally g-13 from delta labs SO please don't start with this genetic bullshit. Im not saying it dosen't apply or one plant could be better then the other but not in the way your thinking.
Have you ever seen two healthy mother plants side by side different growers??
I have And guess what they look exactly the same nice vivid green standing up right holding itself with no sign of stretching Alot of bountiful full of life leafs all over... you woudn;t be able to tell the difference
And neither could you with the budding the yields where identical same fertilizer different strains but with same flowring time. You Can't tell the difference dank is dank A clone is a clone A healthy plant is healthy plant...
A fucking seed is a seed Sure you can have a awsome plant that was amazing during the flowring time you go to bud it and it could give an amzing yield You decide to clone from the mother and you flower all your clones Some yeilds fall short of being exact as the other Why? Genetics? No its how you grow the goddamn stuff...you can have the best clones on earth the dankest dope and the best seeds and still have the chance at growing swagg
And sometimes believe it or not You can't beat "nature"!!!! the plant will grow how it pleases even if you do the same to each one
Also I dont know about you but its either your High or your not Its either Body buzz indica or "headie" head-high sativa
I have never found anything else in all these weeds of the world You either smoke it and your fcuking blitzed and pass out on the toilet or the couch or your so high you can't say afucking word and walk around town for 2 hours looking for something to do...
I have never found a complex high from weed either my bodys totaly numbed out or my head is and then I crash hard and fall asleep.
Not sure what other kind of high's are out there??
mabey a light high like budlight Same price Lower kick in the ass
you soound like a retard who has no experience with plants in general and who doesn't pay much attention to subtle details of genetic variation. Every cannabis plant i have grown from seed (lots) has looked different from the next. similairly every clone i have grown that was takin from a different plant (many) looks different. Using combination of the plants overall appearance and structure(leaf patterns, branching patterns, height, leaf color(top and bottom), leaf stem color, stalk color, etc), stalk aroma, growth patterns, time it takes to root clones, appearence of stalked trichomes on fan leaves and probably more I can tell the difference between most strains while still in veg, but always in flowering i can tell the difference. If i cant distinguish the plant before it flowers then aroma of crushed trichomes from flowers, trichome production patterns on flowers, flower color, flowering time, flower shape/structure and/or taste of finished product always give it away.
"Have you ever seen two healthy mother plants side by side different growers??"
Do you mean two different stains here, because yes i have and yes i can tell them apart, often without much difficulty or doubt. If you meant the same stain, then they could look the same or different, depends on the condition their in.
Of course you could get a seed from some crap to grow into something better then its parents, sexual reproduction mixes up the genotype (which determines the phenotype), the possibilities are unlimited.
You are correct that dank is dank, a clone is a clone, a healthy plant is a healthy plant and a seed is a seed, the difference is the genetics. You keep your healthy schwag plant, ill keep the dank seeds.
my point is myself or any other person with attention to detail and experience could tell the difference between two different versions of the same plant.
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Re: Fried. [Re: Topcorn]
#12807168 - 06/26/10 10:33 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Scruffy404 said: Why do people say this... Semi rare genetics?? There out there for sure and there all the same its either that strain or its not. Depends all of how you grow the pot not the genetics its self.
I have seen swagg as swagg could be a seed taken from it and grown into some bomb ass hydroponics. That heady-high could easily come from any dank ass weed.
Everything you said is wrong. Genetics work the same way in plants as they do in us. So you have the parent plants, the different parent plants have different genetics so they are different. You can keep the same genetics by cloning and that's why people do it. Genetics determine a lot about the plant, like potency, size, yield, etc. The fact that there's a seed in the bag is an indicator of why it's schwag. The female plants got pollinated, that effects the potency a lot. Then if you take the seeds and grow some sensimilla it could be much more potent. Also unless it's a hermie that pollinated itself, which in that case you would most likely get another hermie, it has the genetics of two different plants. And equally dank bud can have a totally different high. THC is not the only active cannabinoid in cannabis and the different concentrations of different cannabinoids change the high.
its people like you. I have seen it and smoked it Supposed SWAGG genetics grown the same as some DANK ass genetics guess what?
You woudnt be able to tell the difference if I smoked you it. They where both dank ass dope grown the same way. One came from a un trusted source the other was acutally g-13 from delta labs SO please don't start with this genetic bullshit. Im not saying it dosen't apply or one plant could be better then the other but not in the way your thinking.
Have you ever seen two healthy mother plants side by side different growers??
I have And guess what they look exactly the same nice vivid green standing up right holding itself with no sign of stretching Alot of bountiful full of life leafs all over... you woudn;t be able to tell the difference
And neither could you with the budding the yields where identical same fertilizer different strains but with same flowring time. You Can't tell the difference dank is dank A clone is a clone A healthy plant is healthy plant...
A fucking seed is a seed Sure you can have a awsome plant that was amazing during the flowring time you go to bud it and it could give an amzing yield You decide to clone from the mother and you flower all your clones Some yeilds fall short of being exact as the other Why? Genetics? No its how you grow the goddamn stuff...you can have the best clones on earth the dankest dope and the best seeds and still have the chance at growing swagg
And sometimes believe it or not You can't beat "nature"!!!! the plant will grow how it pleases even if you do the same to each one
Also I dont know about you but its either your High or your not Its either Body buzz indica or "headie" head-high sativa
I have never found anything else in all these weeds of the world You either smoke it and your fcuking blitzed and pass out on the toilet or the couch or your so high you can't say afucking word and walk around town for 2 hours looking for something to do...
I have never found a complex high from weed either my bodys totaly numbed out or my head is and then I crash hard and fall asleep.
Not sure what other kind of high's are out there??
mabey a light high like budlight Same price Lower kick in the ass
you soound like a retard who has no experience with plants in general and who doesn't pay much attention to subtle details of genetic variation. Every cannabis plant i have grown from seed (lots) has looked different from the next. similairly every clone i have grown that was takin from a different plant (many) looks different. Using combination of the plants overall appearance and structure(leaf patterns, branching patterns, height, leaf color(top and bottom), leaf stem color, stalk color, etc), stalk aroma, growth patterns, time it takes to root clones, appearence of stalked trichomes on fan leaves and probably more I can tell the difference between most strains while still in veg, but always in flowering i can tell the difference. If i cant distinguish the plant before it flowers then aroma of crushed trichomes from flowers, trichome production patterns on flowers, flower color, flowering time, flower shape/structure and/or taste of finished product always give it away.
"Have you ever seen two healthy mother plants side by side different growers??"
Do you mean two different stains here, because yes i have and yes i can tell them apart, often without much difficulty or doubt. If you meant the same stain, then they could look the same or different, depends on the condition their in.
Of course you could get a seed from some crap to grow into something better then its parents, sexual reproduction mixes up the genotype (which determines the phenotype), the possibilities are unlimited.
You are correct that dank is dank, a clone is a clone, a healthy plant is a healthy plant and a seed is a seed, the difference is the genetics. You keep your healthy schwag plant, ill keep the dank seeds.
my point is myself or any other person with attention to detail and experience could tell the difference between two different versions of the same plant.
lol You totally missed my point on this one. But your wrong for everything you have said. And no experience could not tell the different versions b/w the same plant Marijuana is mmmm marijuana derrr
Every time i look at some chronic indoor grow highly sophisticated all the best "genetics" in one room....Looks a hell of alot like the shitty genetics you find in your "average joe" set-ups
So plz give the genetic bullshit a break.
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Re: Fried. [Re: Topcorn]
#12807334 - 06/26/10 11:18 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree with Topcorn totally. It is unbelievably easy for (most) anyone to tell the difference between two different varieties being grown in the same exact room and being fed from the same nutrient reservoir. And that is pretty much at any stage of growth all the way through harvest.
If you have 10 different varieties growing in the same room with the feeding cycles and nutes; guess what - they DO NOT all look identical.
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dwpineal said: I agree with Topcorn totally. It is unbelievably easy for (most) anyone to tell the difference between two different varieties being grown in the same exact room and being fed from the same nutrient reservoir. And that is pretty much at any stage of growth all the way through harvest.
If you have 10 different varieties growing in the same room with the feeding cycles and nutes; guess what - they DO NOT all look identical.
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And all you experts calling your plant "Marijuana", I know this is probably flame worthy, but seriosly, use the correct word; cannabis, coming from Kanna (sweet smelling flower) and Bis (a "duel"; of two sexes). Marijuana is shitty slang used in 30's and 40's reefer madness nonsense; or the most comenly used word today
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Scruffy404
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dwpineal said: I agree with Topcorn totally. It is unbelievably easy for (most) anyone to tell the difference between two different varieties being grown in the same exact room and being fed from the same nutrient reservoir. And that is pretty much at any stage of growth all the way through harvest.
If you have 10 different varieties growing in the same room with the feeding cycles and nutes; guess what - they DO NOT all look identical.
Not what I said I said shitty genetics Vs. So called good genetics
I know there's a difference from indica's and sativa's and that's as far as you are getting the leafs don't change much either skinny and long for those sativa's or short and fat for the indica they all fucking smell the same until it start flowering and they all look like plant to me (at least) when there veg.
My argument is this genetic shit You can grow any fucking clone Any seed Any strain Just as good as the next I think it is entirely up to you how its cared for and what it is fed that determines the outcome.(a lot like us eh??? not so different) Not the genetics. I think genetics play a role in what it is really hybrid/sativa/indica Not your total yield and how dank the dope is. I believe any dope can be dank if grown right. (cared for)
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OP... you've tripped 3 times. you're a poon hahahahha.
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Re: Fried. [Re: its0kay]
#12820038 - 06/28/10 07:54 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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This actually sounds like a salvia trip more than an acid trip or from any weed. Especially because of the short amount of time it lasted. But, Idk, just adding some convo.
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