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Poid
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: AngryPhil]
#12770968 - 06/19/10 09:05 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm here out of boredom.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: Poid]
#12771013 - 06/19/10 09:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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sounds about right, that's why we're all here either out of boredom or to save the world
the thing you quoted of me was sposta be ironic btw and I didn't mean any offense, I like your posts except for when you disagree with me  how dare you...
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: AngryPhil]
#12771024 - 06/19/10 09:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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AngryPhil said: sounds about right, that's why we're all here either out of boredom or to save the world
I take that back, I'm here to save the world. 
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AngryPhil said: the thing you quoted of me was sposta be ironic btw and I didn't mean any offense, I like your posts except for when you disagree with me  how dare you...
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: Poid]
#12771280 - 06/19/10 10:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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who's world? i tried saving this huge bug the other day that was crawling around at my place i tried picking it up by trapping it in a bowl and sending it outside but i accidentally chopped off a couple of its legs in the process..
then it just crawled into a tiny crack where the wall and the floor meets
then i think if only i had ignored it that poor creature would still have its legs.. and all this from just trying to get it back into the wild
little did i realize that my apartment IS the wild
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: Envix]
#12771287 - 06/19/10 10:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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The human world, fuck animals.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: Poid]
#12771366 - 06/19/10 10:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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my world, fuck everyone else but I'm happy when I'm around happy people so saving my world involves trying to save everyone else's world the humans that it, the well being of any animal other than my dog doesn't concern me much
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: AngryPhil]
#12771370 - 06/19/10 10:53 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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AngryPhil said: the well being of animals other than my dog doesn't concern me
So I take it you don't give a fuck about the oil spill?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: Poid]
#12771412 - 06/19/10 11:06 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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AngryPhil said: the well being of animals other than my dog doesn't concern me
So I take it you don't give a fuck about the oil spill?
Not really, not yet anyway It might effect me eventually but so far it's just a news story it's just another part of this movie I'm living and giving a fuck about it isn't going to help anything Since my own giving of a fuck isn't going to change the situation there's no reason that I should give a fuck, and I don't feel bad about not giving a fuck
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: AngryPhil]
#12771423 - 06/19/10 11:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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AngryPhil said:
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Poid said:
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AngryPhil said: the well being of animals other than my dog doesn't concern me
So I take it you don't give a fuck about the oil spill?
Not really, not yet anyway It might effect me eventually
So you only give a fuck about things that affect you directly?
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AngryPhil said: and giving a fuck about it isn't going to help anything Since my own giving of a fuck isn't going to change the situation
So you only give a fuck about things that you can change?
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: Poid]
#12771430 - 06/19/10 11:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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michio kaku says the oil spill will have effects on rain throughout much of the west like there will be sludgy rain and lots of acid in it for the next couple of decades or so
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: Envix]
#12771436 - 06/19/10 11:16 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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What does he mean by 'much of the west'?
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: Poid]
#12771456 - 06/19/10 11:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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uhhhh i forget he talks about it here and here, and here
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Re: Ask some questions [Re: Poid]
#12773063 - 06/20/10 11:36 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said: So you only give a fuck about things that affect you directly?
Yeah, that's how the human brain is wired, we're incurably selfish. We seem less selfish sometimes when we are concerned about the well being of others, but really it's only concern for our own well being. When I see that someone I love feels bad, it makes me feel bad, and I have to help the person I love to feel good so that I can feel good. It's only an illusion of selflessness, but there's nothing wrong with that, it's just how we are.
I am concerned about the oil spill to some degree though. I love the earth, and because of that I feel bad when the earth 'feels bad'.
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So you only give a fuck about things that you can change?
Giving a fuck about things I can't change only causes suffering. If giving a fuck would make the oil go away, I would give a fuck. If caring about how much this is going to effect the ecosystem would reduce its impact, I would care. The fact is, what's going to happen is going to happen. I can either be blind to it and feel ok as it happens, or cry about it every day and feel bad as it happens. There's this illusion that you have to give a fuck about bad things or else you're a bad person. If I had some responsibility in the whole mess, I might be a bad person for not giving a fuck, but that's not the case.
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