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Offlineodinssun
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smoking mushrooms
    #1274796 - 02/03/03 02:01 PM (21 years, 22 days ago)

What are everyones thoughts on smoking mushrooms?


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: odinssun]
    #1274806 - 02/03/03 02:05 PM (21 years, 22 days ago)

Pointless. I read a report where some guys smoked a quarter ounce and said they were tripping slightly..

What a waste of mushrooms.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: odinssun]
    #1274810 - 02/03/03 02:06 PM (21 years, 22 days ago)

Let me warn you, 95% of people will tell you it does nothing. But it only takes one counter-example to ruin a theory, and there are plenty of counter-examples in this case. I don't know why there are so many people who badly want to convince everybody it doesn't work. Personally I have never tried it. Anyway this question gets asked at least once a week so do a search.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: zeta]
    #1274821 - 02/03/03 02:12 PM (21 years, 22 days ago)

Many people are quick to chime in and say, "It doesn't work" They explain that the psilocin is destroyed by the heat. They are so convinced that they won't even try to experiment... Well, I tried, and I did get some results that I believed could be distinguished from placebo... However, I must agree that:
1) this is a terrible waste of shrooms (for the effect you get)
2) this is asked all the time, do a search


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #1275328 - 02/03/03 04:37 PM (21 years, 22 days ago)

take the shake from your bag of mushrooms

WHILE your are tripping off orally ingested mushrooms, load a pipe with some shake mixed with weed.

smoke all the shake/weed

enjoy

ive also smoked shrooms and weed while sober...honestly the effects werent really shit...if you focus on one thing for a while shit will start to change but thats about it, only lasts like half an hour

smoke shrooms while shrooming though, that will kick the trip into gear pretty good


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: odinssun]
    #1275364 - 02/03/03 04:49 PM (21 years, 22 days ago)

I don't think smoking shrooms would ever produce results nearly as powerful as eating them.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: odinssun]
    #1275642 - 02/03/03 06:29 PM (21 years, 22 days ago)

fuck it dude, try it out...
just try not to torch and burn it too much and you may get something from it :smirk:


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: odinssun]
    #1276955 - 02/04/03 06:08 AM (21 years, 21 days ago)



isnt it DMT that your tripping from when you smoke shrooms? I know DMT is inactive orally, and i also know that psilocybes contain DMT as well as a multidude of tryptamine based compunds.

When people say you wont trip from psilocybin/psilocin they are right, but when people say you dont trip AT ALL. well then , i think thats the question....


wait a second.. i forgot to do a search. Im sure people have said what i just did 10 times over..... lol oh well.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: ODhaze]
    #1276968 - 02/04/03 06:13 AM (21 years, 21 days ago)

From Erowid

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There continue to be rumors that some psilocybian mushrooms contain small quantities of DMT, yet no chemical analysis that we know of has shown the presence of DMT. If it is to be found, it's in microscopic quantities, and as DMT is not orally active without an MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor)...it is quite unlikely to have any noticeable effect.






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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: darkfly]
    #1277303 - 02/04/03 07:48 AM (21 years, 21 days ago)

it really isnt worth it. if you eat it IT WILL WORK. if you smoke it it ALMOST DEFINETLY WONT. i mean why take that risk? even for those who say theyve tried it and felt effects, i dont think anyone has ever said it works better. However, once when already tripping (like the guy above) i smoked a bowl of the mush and started to trip diffrently and harder for a short time. it was fun and the amount was very small. i think its possible that there is some kind of an effect here but still if you want to smoke something smoke some weed. this will intensify your mush trip even more than the mush. if you want to eat something, eat your mush. or something. but really its not a good idea.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: darkfly]
    #1277457 - 02/04/03 08:39 AM (21 years, 21 days ago)


Here is a quote from the psilocybin mushroom FAQ at the lycaeum,

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Indole derivative Amount (microg.)

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5-Benzyloxy-3-indole acetic acid 2
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine hydrogen-oxalate [aka DMT] 4
Gramine 40
3-Hydroxyethyl indole 2
5-Hydroxy-3-indole acetic acid 2
5-Hydroxyindole 4
3-Hydroxymethylindole 2
5-Hydroxytryptamine creatine sulfate [aka Serotonin] 4
5-Hydroxytryptophane 2
Indole 4
3-Indoleacetamide 2
3-Indole acetic acid 2
3-Indoleacetic acid ethyl ester 2
3-Indoleacetonitrile 2
3-Indolealdehyde 40
3-Indoleacetaldehyde 2
3-Indolecarboxylic acid 4
3-Indolelactic acid 2
gamma-(Indole)-N-butyric acid 4
beta-Indole-3-acrylic acid 2
beta-(Indole-3)-propionic acid 4
Indoxylacetate 2
Indoxylbutyrate 2
Isatin 2
5-Methoxy-2-carboxyindole 2
5-Methoxydimethyltryptamine monooxalate [aka Bufotenine] 4
5-Methoxyindole 4
2-Methylindole 2
3-Methylindole 4
5-Methylindole 4
5-Methyltryptophane 2
N-Methyltryptophane 2
Tryptamine hydrochloride 4
L-Tryptophane 0.8

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its true though, smoking mushrooms is definatley a waste of shrooms/time


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: ODhaze]
    #1287252 - 02/07/03 02:19 AM (21 years, 18 days ago)

ive just smoked straight shrooms with no effect the idea is stupid i think, its just like red rock "opium", crush it up and put in a bowl lol, yea yer inhaling chemicals but its not gunna make u trip lol, heat kills psilos anyway, that is just plain ludacris to smoke shrooms, placebo effect, , its the placebo effect, and of course if u mix it with weed or any other drug you will more easily fall victim to the placebo effect, the whole idea is silly


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: deprave]
    #1287257 - 02/07/03 02:19 AM (21 years, 18 days ago)

I would think cultivators would be more knowlagable of this lol


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: ]
    #1287492 - 02/07/03 04:22 AM (21 years, 18 days ago)

only the animita is smokable
that anit no bull!


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: odinssun]
    #1288978 - 02/07/03 01:23 PM (21 years, 18 days ago)

when already tripping, smoke shrooms if only for the weirdest smoke experience ever, in terms of flavour. It will seem like you're smoking stuff from a different planet, and most likely you will definitely feel something, placebo effect or not..

i cant believe how many people talk about this being a waste of shrooms. well ok, maybe it is, but so is eating them every week or even more often. If you have the skill to grow them you will not often worry about running out of shrooms, so, like others said, just try it, then judge for yourself


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: Jeroen198]
    #1290612 - 02/08/03 08:07 AM (21 years, 17 days ago)

It works, just not well. I did it back in 8th or ninth grade, we made a joint with a cap we had a cap we had found stashed away in my friends room. Kind of reminded me of weed from what I remember. It was a long time ago, but I remember it did work. If you are going to do it though just eat them, smoking them is a waste (unless you have a bunch laying around, then try it and tell us if it works for ya)


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: deprave]
    #1290813 - 02/08/03 09:35 AM (21 years, 17 days ago)

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ive just smoked straight shrooms with no effect the idea is stupid i think, its just like red rock "opium", crush it up and put in a bowl lol, yea yer inhaling chemicals but its not gunna make u trip lol, heat kills psilos anyway, that is just plain ludacris to smoke shrooms, placebo effect, , its the placebo effect, and of course if u mix it with weed or any other drug you will more easily fall victim to the placebo effect, the whole idea is silly



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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: Anonymous]
    #24007277 - 01/13/17 02:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

only time i tried it i was already fried lol bc a young friend wanted to try and i think it placebo effected him lol


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: Tylershatto5]
    #24007474 - 01/13/17 03:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Make a freebased extract of the Shrooms and smoke the extract, don't smoke the Shrooms. I'm curious if a freebased extract can be smoked, and i've heard from a few people who say they've done it and it works. Makes me also wanna try to freebase 4-ACO-DMT and smoke that, see how it goes. If i had an abundance of Shrooms i'd most likely try to extract from it like i've extracted DMT from Mimosa or Acacia using washing soda and 99% isopropyl alcohol. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work, and someone should totally try it out.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: ODhaze]
    #24007537 - 01/13/17 03:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ODhaze said:


isnt it DMT that your tripping from when you smoke shrooms?  I know DMT is inactive orally, and i also know that psilocybes contain DMT as well as a multidude of tryptamine based compunds.

When people say you wont trip from psilocybin/psilocin they are right, but when people say you dont trip AT ALL.  well then , i think thats the question....


wait a second.. i forgot to do a search.  Im sure people have said what i just did 10 times over..... lol oh well.


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Neither psilocybin or psilocin contain DMT. They are very closely related, though.

I find it hard to believe this would work unless using pure psilocybin. Even then it would be a crapshoot, because there is no dosage information available. The threshold dose for psilocybin is like 5mg or something, and it's not likely you will obtain any.

If you really wanna smoke a few grams of mushrooms go for it. I feel it would be a huge waste, and disappointment if you think its going to work. If you have a volcano or some other electric vaporizer I would say that's your best bet. Otherwise just eat em.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: Sabnock]
    #24008650 - 01/14/17 01:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Sabnock said:
Make a freebased extract of the Shrooms and smoke the extract, don't smoke the Shrooms. I'm curious if a freebased extract can be smoked, and i've heard from a few people who say they've done it and it works. Makes me also wanna try to freebase 4-ACO-DMT and smoke that, see how it goes. If i had an abundance of Shrooms i'd most likely try to extract from it like i've extracted DMT from Mimosa or Acacia using washing soda and 99% isopropyl alcohol. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work, and someone should totally try it out.




I gave someone some 4-aco-dmt to eat and for whatever reason they thought it was dmt and they said they smoked it and had effects.
I pretty sure the 4-aco-dmt I had was not freebase because I ate it a bunch. It was brownish/yellow 4-aco-dmt


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: Eggtimer]
    #24009248 - 01/14/17 09:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

oh my god the misinformation.........


dont smoke em, your wasting em


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: digitalgraphiti]
    #24010012 - 01/14/17 03:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No, you cannot effectively smoke mushrooms. It's technically possible, just like you can technically smoke 50g of marijuana fan leaves and get high, but it's not remotely practical. You need to smoke a LOT, mushrooms do not burn well at all thus it contributes greatly to the decomposition of the actives, and using a flame on freebase psilocin will largely destroy it anyway. You should be able to vaporize freebase psilocin rather effectively, but psilocybin will decompose before its boiling point so that will not work well. Anyone saying they tripped from smoking mushrooms is experiencing a placebo effect.

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BrotherManBill said:
Neither psilocybin or psilocin contain DMT. They are very closely related, though.





They both contain DMT, you could not get closer to DMT than psilocin in fact. The only difference between psilocin (4-HO-DMT) and N,N,DMT is an additional oxygen atom on psilocin. The addition of an oxygen atom makes the molecule much more difficult to metabolise which is why it's orally active unlike N,N,DMT. Psilocybin is psilocin with the addition of a phosphoryl group (OPOO).


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: krypto2000]
    #24010123 - 01/14/17 03:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Freebase mixed with BHO then dab it out. Or using vape juice as a carrier.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: psilly the kid]
    #24010574 - 01/14/17 07:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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psilly the kid said:
Freebase mixed with BHO then dab it out. Or using vape juice as a carrier.




Still a waste. just eat em or make a tea


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: digitalgraphiti]
    #24010625 - 01/14/17 07:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

How's it a waste?


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: krypto2000]
    #24011389 - 01/15/17 07:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Take fresh, press the liquid n vape it, but eaitin would still b best, I agree, always will.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: 3891tna]
    #24011693 - 01/15/17 09:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That probably won't work as you'll just be squeezing out water, most of your alkaloids will still be in the fruit body. The water will boil below the vaporization point of psilocin, and be very.. wet and hard to vape, and uh.. that's it, that's all that would happen.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: krypto2000]
    #24011868 - 01/15/17 10:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Heat destroys psilocin/psilocybin.  The reason you see effects is most likely due to residual vaporization at a lower temperature caused by the gradient through the pipe.  It's a waste of shrooms IMO, but hey, don't let me tell you what to do with your mushrooms.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: multiporpoise]
    #24012157 - 01/15/17 12:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Just smoke pot of catnip and eat them


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: krypto2000]
    #24014388 - 01/16/17 11:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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How's it a waste?




heat destroys the actives. vaping will allow for some but a good part of your stuff will be lost. eat the mush's and vape ur weed


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: digitalgraphiti]
    #24014509 - 01/16/17 12:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If you vape it properly you're not going to lose much. By that logic we should just stick to eating DMT too.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: krypto2000]
    #24014546 - 01/16/17 12:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

if your worried about efficiency vs amount of material, then yes you should.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: digitalgraphiti]
    #24014659 - 01/16/17 01:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I doubt it's any less efficient than eating them, you have to consider you lose some actives in the digestive process too. If you vape it properly with good temperature control then the majority of the alkaloids will go right into your blood stream.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: krypto2000]
    #24016122 - 01/16/17 10:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I doubt it's any less efficient than eating them, you have to consider you lose some actives in the digestive process too. If you vape it properly with good temperature control then the majority of the alkaloids will go right into your blood stream.




Psilocybin has a boiling point above 500 C, and I doubt the vapor pressure is significant at any temperature that won't destroy the compound.  Psilocin melts around 200 C, so there should be a bit of vapor above that- but it will largely be destroyed by high heat.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: multiporpoise]
    #24017047 - 01/17/17 10:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, psilocybin will be destroyed, but if you were to extract it and make a smokeable product you would naturally dephosphrylate it to psilocin in the process so that's a non issue. You're just speculating that psilocin would have significant degredation, I see no reason to assume that is the case. There are few reports to go on, but from what exists vaporized doses are reportedly comparable to IV'd doses so that makes me think it's not significant.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: krypto2000]
    #24019204 - 01/18/17 06:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

And besides that the whole point of the the vape juice is to act as a low temp carrier.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: psilly the kid]
    #24019433 - 01/18/17 09:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What about vaping mushrooms? If you had a vape and regulated the temp to be low enough do you think one could perhaps get lifted then?


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: SonicTitan]
    #24019498 - 01/18/17 09:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't think so because the alkaloids are within the cellular structure of the fruit bodies. You would have to break those down and that would require higher temperatures. Maybe if you vaped it at ~200C or w/e the bp of psilocin is it would slowly vaporize, but likely too slow to be effective. Imagine smoking away at a dmt pipe for 10 minutes, you're not going to get much effects unless it is inhaled all in a breath or two.


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: krypto2000]
    #24019890 - 01/18/17 12:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dab it thc is destroyed at high temperature and my rig gets well over 1000 degrees.... BTW nn dmt is great dabbed


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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: psilly the kid]
    #24020095 - 01/18/17 02:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

While I have never tried it, I think pure freebase psilocin from a volcano vaporizer at the lowest temp would work (working your way up to find the sweet spot). It's probably amazing and we all have no idea...


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