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 Re: smoking mushrooms  [Re: Sabnock]
#24008650 - 01/14/17 01:20 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sabnock said:
Make a freebased extract of the Shrooms and smoke the extract, don't smoke the Shrooms. I'm curious if a freebased extract can be smoked, and i've heard from a few people who say they've done it and it works. Makes me also wanna try to freebase 4-ACO-DMT and smoke that, see how it goes. If i had an abundance of Shrooms i'd most likely try to extract from it like i've extracted DMT from Mimosa or Acacia using washing soda and 99% isopropyl alcohol. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work, and someone should totally try it out.
I gave someone some 4-aco-dmt to eat and for whatever reason they thought it was dmt and they said they smoked it and had effects.
I pretty sure the 4-aco-dmt I had was not freebase because I ate it a bunch. It was brownish/yellow 4-aco-dmt
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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: Eggtimer]
#24009248 - 01/14/17 09:19 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh my god the misinformation.........
dont smoke em, your wasting em
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krypto2000
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No, you cannot effectively smoke mushrooms. It's technically possible, just like you can technically smoke 50g of marijuana fan leaves and get high, but it's not remotely practical. You need to smoke a LOT, mushrooms do not burn well at all thus it contributes greatly to the decomposition of the actives, and using a flame on freebase psilocin will largely destroy it anyway. You should be able to vaporize freebase psilocin rather effectively, but psilocybin will decompose before its boiling point so that will not work well. Anyone saying they tripped from smoking mushrooms is experiencing a placebo effect.
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BrotherManBill said:
Neither psilocybin or psilocin contain DMT. They are very closely related, though.
They both contain DMT, you could not get closer to DMT than psilocin in fact. The only difference between psilocin (4-HO-DMT) and N,N,DMT is an additional oxygen atom on psilocin. The addition of an oxygen atom makes the molecule much more difficult to metabolise which is why it's orally active unlike N,N,DMT. Psilocybin is psilocin with the addition of a phosphoryl group (OPOO).
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psilly the kid
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Freebase mixed with BHO then dab it out. Or using vape juice as a carrier.
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digitalgraphiti
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psilly the kid said:
Freebase mixed with BHO then dab it out. Or using vape juice as a carrier.
Still a waste. just eat em or make a tea
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krypto2000
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How's it a waste?
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3891tna
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Take fresh, press the liquid n vape it, but eaitin would still b best, I agree, always will.
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Re: smoking mushrooms [Re: 3891tna]
#24011693 - 01/15/17 09:57 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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That probably won't work as you'll just be squeezing out water, most of your alkaloids will still be in the fruit body. The water will boil below the vaporization point of psilocin, and be very.. wet and hard to vape, and uh.. that's it, that's all that would happen.
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Heat destroys psilocin/psilocybin. The reason you see effects is most likely due to residual vaporization at a lower temperature caused by the gradient through the pipe. It's a waste of shrooms IMO, but hey, don't let me tell you what to do with your mushrooms.
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psilly the kid
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Just smoke pot of catnip and eat them
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krypto2000 said:
How's it a waste?
heat destroys the actives. vaping will allow for some but a good part of your stuff will be lost. eat the mush's and vape ur weed
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If you vape it properly you're not going to lose much. By that logic we should just stick to eating DMT too.
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digitalgraphiti
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if your worried about efficiency vs amount of material, then yes you should.
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I doubt it's any less efficient than eating them, you have to consider you lose some actives in the digestive process too. If you vape it properly with good temperature control then the majority of the alkaloids will go right into your blood stream.
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I doubt it's any less efficient than eating them, you have to consider you lose some actives in the digestive process too. If you vape it properly with good temperature control then the majority of the alkaloids will go right into your blood stream.
Psilocybin has a boiling point above 500 C, and I doubt the vapor pressure is significant at any temperature that won't destroy the compound. Psilocin melts around 200 C, so there should be a bit of vapor above that- but it will largely be destroyed by high heat.
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Yeah, psilocybin will be destroyed, but if you were to extract it and make a smokeable product you would naturally dephosphrylate it to psilocin in the process so that's a non issue. You're just speculating that psilocin would have significant degredation, I see no reason to assume that is the case. There are few reports to go on, but from what exists vaporized doses are reportedly comparable to IV'd doses so that makes me think it's not significant.
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And besides that the whole point of the the vape juice is to act as a low temp carrier.
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What about vaping mushrooms? If you had a vape and regulated the temp to be low enough do you think one could perhaps get lifted then?
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krypto2000
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I wouldn't think so because the alkaloids are within the cellular structure of the fruit bodies. You would have to break those down and that would require higher temperatures. Maybe if you vaped it at ~200C or w/e the bp of psilocin is it would slowly vaporize, but likely too slow to be effective. Imagine smoking away at a dmt pipe for 10 minutes, you're not going to get much effects unless it is inhaled all in a breath or two.
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psilly the kid
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Dab it thc is destroyed at high temperature and my rig gets well over 1000 degrees.... BTW nn dmt is great dabbed
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