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House
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MAOI's and shrooms
#6417780 - 01/02/07 10:49 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I recently got my hands on some nardil, a potent MAOI. Would this be safe to take on a shroom trip? I've read about people potentiating their trips with natural MAOI's but I really don't know how much stronger nardil would be. Thanks for any advice.
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Crossofdevil
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#6417790 - 01/02/07 10:53 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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CubensicVybz
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What exactly does an MAOI do to potentiate the trip? why is it unsafe to combine them? (Asking out of curiousity, never even heard about MAOI's and shroomies being combined. Let me know!
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2859558484
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I believe MAOI B's are safe, like rue and caapi, but idk about perscription MAOIs. Ive used rue before in combination with mushrooms, potentiates the mushrooms by about 2.5x. Does give the trip a different feeling though.
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Re: MAOI's and shrooms [Re: 2859558484]
#6418064 - 01/02/07 12:34 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok... where does erowid say don't mix MAOi's with shrooms?
Please don't spread false information...
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ExplosiveMango
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MAOis will intensify and change the character of the trip. When I trip on mushrooms, I always feel like my mind is fluctuating from baseline to 'shroomed'. I imagine with an MAOi you would have the waves feeling between different levels of shroom intensity, but you would not be returning to baseline.
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dedjam
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This past weekend I had 4g's Syrian Rue with 4g's of some potent potent shrooms.
Ended up being the most DMT like trip ever. DOwned the rue about 30 minutes before the shrooms...and about 10 minutes after I downed the shrooms I was unable to move much because of the extreme hallucinations. Very very intense. I dont remember much of what happened...the first two hours I was "universe jumping"...just waking up in different realities with different people there, and learned what I could from them. I was told by my other friend who was on the same dose that for the 2 hours I was "universe jumping", he couldnt even see my body (which to my knowledge never moved the couch)...wierd. It was alot more tribal, alot more meaningful, and alot more real than any other mushroom trip ive had.
Of course this was all on an empty stomach too, as I had fasted the day before (and after) for the MAOI and personal reasons.
It was crazy, but I really dont think I will do shrooms again without an MAOI. It changes the trip, there is no good and bad, just information pooring at you (very dmt/aya like IMO)
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House
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Re: MAOI's and shrooms [Re: dedjam]
#6423485 - 01/04/07 12:14 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I guess I'll be the lab rat for this. I'll start off with very small amounts and work up gradually.
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dedjam
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Re: MAOI's and shrooms [Re: House]
#6423879 - 01/04/07 06:57 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
House said: Well I guess I'll be the lab rat for this. I'll start off with very small amounts and work up gradually.
Start very low, and work back and forth raising the dose of MAOI then the dose of mushrooms. I am sure you will, but just be careful with the MAOI diet wise...and dont underestimate the intensity of the trip you could have.
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omnicrap
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Quote:
CubensicVybz said: What exactly does an MAOI do to potentiate the trip? why is it unsafe to combine them? (Asking out of curiousity, never even heard about MAOI's and shroomies being combined. Let me know!
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MAOIs inhibit the enzyme monoamine oxidase (MAO) which breaks down all the major neurotransmitters (serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, etc)
Since psiloc(yb)in is very similar in structure to serotonin, it's also broken down by MAO, hence why MAOIs will potentiate shrooms to a great extent. While it's safe to do as long as you watch your dosages, MAOIs can be dangerous by themselves when combined with foods high in tyramine, and a large number of other drugs.
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Re: MAOI's and shrooms [Re: omnicrap]
#12742743 - 06/14/10 05:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry to bump so old of a thread, but I didn't want to create something similar to a double post.
I also have some Nardil, and was wondering about the amount of time you guys would usually keep food restrictions before and after the MAOI/Mushroom trip.
Again, sorry to bring up an old post, but I figured it was most relevant here.
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