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ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin updates
    #12732794 - 06/12/10 06:01 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

heres the card
Main card

    * Welterweight bout: United States Carlos Condit vs. Canada Rory MacDonald[1]
    * Heavyweight bout: United States Ben Rothwell vs. Netherlands Gilbert Yvel[1]
    * Welterweight bout: Brazil Paulo Thiago vs. Denmark Martin Kampmann[1]
    * Heavyweight bout: Croatia Mirko Filipović vs. United States Pat Barry[1]
    * Light Heavyweight bout: United States Chuck Liddell vs. United States Rich Franklin[

ufc 115 weigh in video


Its a do or die match for liddel and franklin they are both coming off bad loss'es and i see the same for the  ben rothwell and gilbert vyel match

its going to be a pretty descent fight card tonite


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12732951 - 06/12/10 06:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i think franklin might win liddel seems to be meh lately


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: Kingofdiamonds]
    #12732968 - 06/12/10 06:41 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i got chuck on this one


hes fuckin jacked

he's never been jacked (dont get me wrong hes a beast, but hes always had a beer gut) but now he dates a personal trainer

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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: Apostle]
    #12733683 - 06/12/10 09:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

so far results as of now.
Condit wins first match versus Rory
Rothwell beat Gilbert Milendez


Thiago vs Kampton in progress


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: Kingofdiamonds]
    #12733691 - 06/12/10 09:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hey king liddel is bound to win maybe he looks so in shape did you watch the weigh ins??


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733699 - 06/12/10 09:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

no i didnt watch the weigh in video


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733726 - 06/12/10 09:42 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

thiago wins over Martin kampann

underway  Mirkro Cro cop vs Pat barry
this is a sick as match up very strong kickers and im not fuckin around do your research Cro cop is a legend and Pat barry is a underrated mother fucker he has some of the sickest leg kicks you have ever seen he makes people tap with them


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: Kingofdiamonds]
    #12733755 - 06/12/10 09:48 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

u want the link to the video its still live

http://powcast.blogspot.com/#/


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733789 - 06/12/10 10:00 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

cro cop vs pat barry

so far pretty good match :headbang3:


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733811 - 06/12/10 10:05 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

cro cop wins by rear naked choke


Chuck liddel vs rich franklin is about to be under way

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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733826 - 06/12/10 10:09 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

there was way too much love in that fight with cro cop vs barry
wtf kinda seemed fake like wwe shit


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733840 - 06/12/10 10:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

update : joe rogan is blabbering around about chuck liddel workin on his ground game and high leg kicks

lol gotta love Joe hes a legend

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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733865 - 06/12/10 10:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

note franklin has only been knocked out by the top fighters in mma which are all brazilian fighters Loyotta machida and vitor belfort and Anderson Silva That is the Cream of the crop
i know machida is coming off a loss to shogin but he is still a top fighter thats his only lost and if anyone knows mma i dont have to explain The spider and Vitor belfort


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733913 - 06/12/10 10:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733922 - 06/12/10 10:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

man this place is ghostly right now:lol:


the main event is under way Lidell vs franklin
im gettin high as fuck smokin a sweeeeet yay:burnone::rockon::waddymelon::laugh2:


ill anounce the winner next the match is fuckin under way go watch it


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12733930 - 06/12/10 10:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

OOhhh shit rich franklin just knocked out chuck liddel wut a upset.. first round knockout

this is going to be one of chucks last fights
hes retiring now
at least thats what the ufc hopes

chuck is old as fuck now and hes coming off over 3 straight loss's

but none the less what a good win for franklin


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12734137 - 06/12/10 11:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #12734982 - 06/13/10 08:18 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Poor Chuck.  I dont like seeing my favorites get knocked out but It's good to see Rich come back with a win.  Yves Lavigne needs to take a hike, Danzig got robbed.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin updates [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12738852 - 06/13/10 09:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Poor Chuck... Man he seems to be getting his ass knocked out in fights... I think it is safe to say he needs to retire before somebody hurts him..


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12739564 - 06/14/10 12:16 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Not only that, but franklins a southpaw. He broke his left arm...and knocked chuck out with his right! And not to be a dick, but liddell has lost 5 of his last 6 fights. A legend indeed, but I think his time has passed. He will fight again. Theres no way hes going out with such a streak. Hes stubborn, but not only that hes a good fighter. They may have to match him with some scrubs, but either way hes fighting again.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #12767570 - 06/19/10 03:38 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I really can't believe they were pushing for his retirement so fucking bad, Joe said he wouldn't even commietaint anymore if chuck fought again :crankey:  thats pretty fucked up.

I havn't seen chucks last few fights but i seen this one...he did good.  Who gives a fuck if he got knocked out...it was a good punch and he went HEAD FIRST into.

and yes he did break franklins arm...which is just another reason why liddel is still a good fighter.

He gets caught which punches because he's out to make a good show for the fans.  I mean if JOE was to call for anyone's retirement it should have fucking been rampage after his shitty worthless fight.

Sorry im just pissed about how liddel is getting dogged, he's not even one of my favorite fighters, but i have a soft spot for the old timers...plus who was that other guy who basically came out of retirement about 5 ufc's ago and is like 48 years old or something, chuck can't be that old


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #12773324 - 06/20/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

My favorite fight during this event was Mike Pyle vs Jesse Lennox.

Awesome fight.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: Heffy]
    #12778859 - 06/21/10 02:00 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

If Chuck keeps this up he's going to die. Oh yeah, what a legacy. :rolleyes:


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12785337 - 06/22/10 03:32 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

die ?no.. maybe in a wheelchair he has a glass jaw now a days


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12793068 - 06/23/10 08:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

chuck was having a pretty good fight up until he got caught. his problem now is that his fighting style lends to him taking big shots and he cant take them anymore. he did seem to be in much better condition than in the past. he looked like he was going to kick franklins ass up until that shot, either way thats a reason for him not to retire. that fight was at least interesting tv, unlike anderson silva. really who here would rather watch a silva fight over a liddel fight? at least liddel is getting knocked out lol, hes either knocking a dude out or getting glass jawed. im all for it as opposed to dancing and embarrassing an opponent, yet not able to finish them off lol.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: relativexistance]
    #12793422 - 06/23/10 09:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

yah i think the reality about that silva fight was that he was actually scared of his opponent at least on the ground for sure, he didn't want to get wrapped up, and he was afraid of a freak knockout which is why he was doing everything but jumping over the octagon fence.  Honestly i don't think silva is really as good as people say he is, back in pride he got put down multiple times by fucking nobodys


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #12795320 - 06/24/10 08:18 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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yah i think the reality about that silva fight was that he was actually scared of his opponent at least on the ground for sure, he didn't want to get wrapped up, and he was afraid of a freak knockout which is why he was doing everything but jumping over the octagon fence.  Honestly i don't think silva is really as good as people say he is, back in pride he got put down multiple times by fucking nobodys




LMAO

Nobody is afraid of getting knocked out by Demian Maia, much less someone like Anderson Silva. Silva is getting restless over fighting a bunch of below-par fighters like Maia and Leites. Hence why he moved up to the deeper weight class. Oh, and he only lost twice in Pride, once via a never used heel hook.

But, Shogun would beat him.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12795364 - 06/24/10 08:29 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

fighters do get knocked out from time to time from luck, which would make silva look hella bad which is why he dances around so much.  If silva wanted to make a point he should have knocked him out in 10 seconds, instead he just looked like a pussy and should be treated like one. Silva was clearly scared as fuck to take it to the ground.  and yah multiple times is more than once thanks.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #12796851 - 06/24/10 01:45 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

If you had ever seen Damien Maia fight, you wouldn't have the foolish thought that he could ever faze someone, let alone knock them out.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12796920 - 06/24/10 01:54 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

anyone can knock anyone out, you'd know this if you had followed MMA over the years


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #12797191 - 06/24/10 02:41 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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anyone can knock anyone out, you'd know this if you had followed MMA over the years




I guarantee I've watched more MMA fights than you. Like I said, Demian Maia is a pillow puncher.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12797233 - 06/24/10 02:48 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

:lol: sorry id call your bluff but it wouldnt even matter


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #12797275 - 06/24/10 02:57 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Even in off-chance you have, that just furthers my point that you should know that Damien Maia's striking skills are almost non-existent.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12797285 - 06/24/10 02:59 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

yah everyone knows that, which is why silva would NOT want to be knocked out by him, and yes it is still possible crazy things happen all the time like rich breaking his left and then liddel eating rich's right for a knockout


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #12797448 - 06/24/10 03:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Sorry im just pissed about how liddel is getting dogged, he's not even one of my favorite fighters, but i have a soft spot for the old timers...plus who was that other guy who basically came out of retirement about 5 ufc's ago and is like 48 years old or something, chuck can't be that old






It's the bane of the UFC.  They really treat their fighters like shit.


Fedor's said it numerous times as well.  But the proof is in the history of the UFC and fighter dissatisfaction with them.




But as long as all the dumb noobie TUFer Americans keep chanting U-S-A at all the events, they wont care how badly the fighters get treated or how unnaccountable they are towards these guy's careers and lives.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12797464 - 06/24/10 03:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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anyone can knock anyone out, you'd know this if you had followed MMA over the years




I guarantee I've watched more MMA fights than you. Like I said, Demian Maia is a pillow puncher.







Actually, makaveli's been following this sport long before you and the rest of North America jumped onto the bandwagon in 2005.



You're just another TUF noob.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12797492 - 06/24/10 03:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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anyone can knock anyone out, you'd know this if you had followed MMA over the years




I guarantee I've watched more MMA fights than you. Like I said, Demian Maia is a pillow puncher.







Actually, makaveli's been following this sport long before you and the rest of North America jumped onto the bandwagon in 2005.



You're just another TUF noob.




Makaveli also says things all the time that are just plain wrong.
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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: Heffy]
    #12797582 - 06/24/10 03:59 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

no, but



he has posted in MMA discussion threads prior to the reality show blowing up in 2005.


And that's enough indication to tell me he was one of the few who actually followed MMA before it became the trendy thing to do.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12801505 - 06/25/10 08:48 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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anyone can knock anyone out, you'd know this if you had followed MMA over the years




I guarantee I've watched more MMA fights than you. Like I said, Demian Maia is a pillow puncher.







Actually, makaveli's been following this sport long before you and the rest of North America jumped onto the bandwagon in 2005.



You're just another TUF noob.




I've probably been watching K-1 since before you were born.

lol@ weirdo's jumping in a conversation to kiss ass. :thumbdown:


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12801507 - 06/25/10 08:49 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, and TUF sucks.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12807102 - 06/26/10 10:12 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

we're not talking about k-1


we're talking about MMA and your claims to have watched it for a long time.



Do you really want me to call out your bluff?  It'll only take a couple easy trivia questions.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12807728 - 06/26/10 01:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

This better be good. If you ask a bunch of easy questions you're going to look like an idiot here kid.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12807752 - 06/26/10 01:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Actually, let's make this interesting...for every question you ask me, I'll ask you one in return.

You better actually know what you're talking about. :lol:


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12807860 - 06/26/10 01:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

how did Justin Eilers earn his title shot?

what was the biggest fight announced in 2004 in the UFC?



oh, and who was the sherdog consensus favorite going into the Pride 2003 Final Conflict?


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #12809533 - 06/26/10 07:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

mai is a bjj expert not a puncher and anderson silva is the cream of the ufc he is the middle wight champ and can easily move to 205 and do good there 2 he is a beast


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12809563 - 06/26/10 07:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

justin eilers? hes dead but which title shot i hope you mean a past one?

2004 was a great year and some of the best fight's had to be the ufc 49 card it was great and justin eilers was on this one 2 with a tko victory
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      Randy Couture defeats Vitor Belfort  by TKO (Doctor Stoppage) after Round 3 - Couture becomes the UFC Light Heavyweight Champion belt for the 2nd time
Justin Eilers defeats Mike Kyle by KO (Punches)
David Terrell defeats Matt Lindland by knockout
Chuck Liddell defeats Vernon White by KO (Punches)
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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12811463 - 06/27/10 10:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It's subjective, but I'd have to say the biggest fight of 2004 would have to be Liddell/Ortiz. Mir/Sylvia is a personal favorite of mine, but I don't think it compares to the hype of UFC 47.

Wandy was obviously cream of the crop at the time, but I'll go with Liddell being the favorite for FC 2003, for some reason he pops into my head.

and IIRC, Eilers was gifted a title shot after getting knocked out twice in a row; a testimony to the weak state of the HW division during Arlovski's reign. I could be wrong though.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12811697 - 06/27/10 11:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Here he goes with the trivia again.

:rofl2::rolleyes: :suicide:

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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12812055 - 06/27/10 12:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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It's subjective, but I'd have to say the biggest fight of 2004 would have to be Liddell/Ortiz. Mir/Sylvia is a personal favorite of mine, but I don't think it compares to the hype of UFC 47.

Wandy was obviously cream of the crop at the time, but I'll go with Liddell being the favorite for FC 2003, for some reason he pops into my head.

and IIRC, Eilers was gifted a title shot after getting knocked out twice in a row; a testimony to the weak state of the HW division during Arlovski's reign. I could be wrong though.








Firstly, the biggest fight announced by far, in 2004, was the cross promotional super fight between Randy Couture and Wanderlei Silva.  Wanderlei came into the ring holding his pride belt after Couture's tko stoppage of Belfort in UFC 49.


There was no bigger fight by far that could be contemplated by then.  This whole announcement created a massive frenzy in the MMA world (largely online, as internet forums was pretty much the only way the sport was surviving back then).


Ortiz vs Liddell was a pretty big fight announced, but it's more of a matchup that was long overdue, and neither guy had the belt at the time.




Also, it was actually Quinton Jackson who was considered the favorite going into the '03 final conflict, as it was predicted on sherdog, and basically everyone else who watched it back then knew Wanderlei was fighting the easier of the opponents, while Quinton was tearing through opponents.  2003 was supposed to be Rampage's coming out party, as it was also seen on Sherdog's preview of the event, predicting Rampage to beat Silva via TKO stoppage in the finals.


Liddell was a respected fighter back then, he was considered a legit contender, but the guy still had many holes in his game and people were wondering how he'd do against a much more loaded LHW division than the sad state the UFC was in (ala Ortiz's title hold out).  People questioned him after his loss to Couture.







Justin Eilers was given a last minute title shot after a botched attempt at a comeback to the UFC by Ricco Rodriguez.  RIcco had been saying for a while how he could beat Arlovski again, and people gave him the benefit of the doubt considering he lost his title to Tim Sylvia, who would later test positive for steroids following that bout.










You put a pretty good effort, but i had to make these questions a little bit harder so that you couldn't just google search the answers.  But everything I talked about was incredibly relevant at their times, long before all the noobs and their mother's jumped aboard the MMA bandwagon in 2005.



You do seem to know more than most, but honestly nowadays it's hard to actually find people who were hardcore fans back then, as 99% of people who watch MMA nowawdays are just TUFer generation noobs who claim to be experts but then cry when they get called out on their knowledge.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12812845 - 06/27/10 03:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hardcore fan since a kid:headbang3:

anyone think anderson silva needs to fight vitor belfort??? vitor is a beast now and i know anderson would take the fight more seriously than the damien fight and his next match against chael sonnen is a complete fail :facepalm:

come on dana move up anderson to 205 he has gotten bored at 185 there isnt much competition left


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: SouthernGulfStyle]
    #12813631 - 06/27/10 05:54 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

So I failed the test :tongue: For the record, I misunderstood the second question. I thought it meant the biggest fight of 2004.

Also, I disagree with your assessment that Rampage fought tougher competition during that tournament. In the first round, Wandy fought Sakuraba, while Rampage fought Bustamante, who shouldn't have even been there. In the semi's, I agree that Rampage had a tougher match against Liddell than Silva in Yoshida, but it's not as if Liddell/Bust blows away Sakuraba/Yoshida.


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12814583 - 06/27/10 09:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Also, I disagree with your assessment that Rampage fought tougher competition during that tournament. In the first round, Wandy fought Sakuraba, while Rampage fought Bustamante, who shouldn't have even been there.








So you're unaware that at the time, Murilo was considered the #1 p4p fighter in the world?


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12815407 - 06/27/10 11:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

According to whom?


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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: FuckinVirgin]
    #12816005 - 06/28/10 01:22 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

according to anyone who actually followed the UFC and Pride back then.




Bustamante was unanimously considered the top 185er in the world after he tapped out Matt Lindland twice in one fight.



Back then Lindland was considered the unstoppabled force until Busta moved down in weight and dominated him on the mat.



Busta was also considered the best fighter under 205.




He had just won the MW championship before leaving the UFC to fight in Pride.  This was a trend back then.



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Re: ufc 115 Chuck Liddel vs Rich Franklin [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12817251 - 06/28/10 10:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I definitely didn't watch it as closely as you, that's for sure.


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