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what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer
    #1272373 - 02/02/03 11:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

instead of using verm ?


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: fugu]
    #1272382 - 02/03/03 12:03 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You can see much better how humid the casing layer is since the color is darker when the casing is moist.


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: Anno]
    #1272387 - 02/03/03 12:12 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

thanks anno.so
1 )is there any disadvantages of peat moss+verm ?
2) which one do you prefer ?
3) and when you learn to read the verms; it seem it is better right ?


(i cant remember the post roles but , can i open an subtopic under here or is it better to make a new post ?


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: fugu]
    #1272393 - 02/03/03 12:18 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

subtopic here.

>1 )is there any disadvantages of peat moss+verm ?
You have to add some calcium carbonate to it to make the pH less acidic(peat is acidic). And you should psteruizs the casing before use.
But this isn?t really a disadvatage.

2) which one do you prefer ?
I use a mix of peat, coco coir, vermiculite and calcium carbonate.



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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: Anno]
    #1272405 - 02/03/03 12:33 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

my peat moss s ph value is 5.5.i have some groundlime.
i just know a tek from mush mush that gives a ratio that you know.10 part peat 5 part verm 1 part lime
i dont know also which lime is that(or i can t remember)
but in lots of posts i read that peat has a ph around 3 4
can you give me a part ratio.also this time i use 50 peat 50 verm 8 groundlime
does it work.?


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: fugu]
    #1272413 - 02/03/03 12:42 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

and i dont know a lot about pastorize. i have got an oven but i even dont believe about its degrees are in right working . and i also haven t got a thermometre for it yet.
this time i have been in a little bit hurry because i have got a ready bulk substrate.i have to case it as soon as possible.
i want to use the pc for this reason.i know pc kills some benificial bacterias.but i have to need to know it about a little bit more(for pastorization)
next time i will pastori;uised my casing sure.
what will you suggest to me?
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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: fugu]
    #1272414 - 02/03/03 12:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

not sure if this is what you are looking for but, you need to adjust the PH with a meter or test strips. I cannot reccomend a ratio for your lime, you have to mix then test, and adjust accordingly.

As for the ratio of peat and vermiculite, I use 50/50. You should use whatever you feel like and make sure the PH is at an acceptable level. It also probably wouldnt hurt to crush up some oyster shells also, but I am just starting with this method.

Edit: I have always sterilized my casing layer in the microwave. You can probably get away with steaming or boiling it also. I never had a problem with a sterile casing layer.


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: fugu]
    #1272423 - 02/03/03 12:53 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If you have crushed limestone (=calcium carbonate) than it?s not that important how much you use, since you can?t really use too much.
If you use lime(calcium hydroxide) you should use pH test stripes to test the pH, since it?s very much possible that you add too much

>and i dont know a lot about pastorize.
There is quite some information on that in the Cultivation FAQ .


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: Anno]
    #1272431 - 02/03/03 01:07 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

imlo verms are the best when you learn to read them ?
sorry. in my country verms have got clay around them. i think its same in here. and what i experienced it their color changes.


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: fugu]
    #1272459 - 02/03/03 01:54 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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imlo verms are the best when you learn to read them ?
sorry. in my country verms have got clay around them. i think its same in here. and what i experienced it their color changes.



Are you saying you can see the color changes better when using straight verm? If so, I find it quite difficult to tell, which can easily lead to soaking the first layer. I believe I lost six casings to that, a real sad day.


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: bjkroll]
    #1272467 - 02/03/03 02:09 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I find it quite difficult to tell, which can easily lead to soaking the first layer.

i didn t understand this part.if you can try to explain it in another form, it will be more easy to understand.


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: fugu]
    #1272471 - 02/03/03 02:14 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Its hard to see the verm change colors when misting it.
Getting the first layer all wet can lead to contams.


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Re: what are the advantages of using peat moss+verm as a layer [Re: bjkroll]
    #1272481 - 02/03/03 02:27 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yes i understood right.i want to learn just .is the verms are best if you mist them at proper stage all the time.
i did nt say i can.
i just want to learn this and thats all.i don t know coco coir and i didn t use.
yes i want to try but now for this moment it is imposibble.
for that i just to ask some questions from what i know.
sorry from all of you i don t want to bother any of you.
that is mine main problem. i like to learn that way.
i don t want to sleep now but also i m too tired for reading something.
sorry from all of you.


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