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Possible active in North East Ohio?
    #12721934 - 06/10/10 05:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Habitat:
Found this in my back yard, growing in the grass all by itself.

Gills:
These are pure white, they are spaced very close together.

Stem:
Its decently thick, pure white and completely solid. It kind of looks like its shedding its own stem reveling a new clean stem undeneath...

Cap:
Its dark gray and glossy. Seems tacky to the touch.

Bruising:
None observed

Other information:
Has a very distinct smell, although I can't even describe it. Stinks a TINY bit but not too unpleasant. Kinda earthy smelling.






Active or at least edible?


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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: krankzinnig]
    #12722254 - 06/10/10 06:41 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

what do you think it is?

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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: krankzinnig]
    #12722326 - 06/10/10 06:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's an amanita, to ID we need to see the base of the stem. Amanitas as a genus have some deadly mushroom species.

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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: aclockworkgnome]
    #12722332 - 06/10/10 06:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's certainly no active that I've ever seen. It looks nothing like an active mushroom. Aminita sinicoflava is my guess

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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: SomeGuy]
    #12722373 - 06/10/10 06:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Not to debate your ID, since I know little to nothing about mushrooms, but from this picture and looking at the mushroom up close, looks nothing alike :/



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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: krankzinnig]
    #12722408 - 06/10/10 07:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It prob. isn't that, but it's def. part of the complex aminita vaginata, the"grissettes"

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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: SomeGuy]
    #12722421 - 06/10/10 07:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

So if its not active, is it poisonous? I like to know which are because I have two dogs that will eat anything they find out there (even my trees hah).


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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: SomeGuy]
    #12722426 - 06/10/10 07:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Defiantly nothing active! Defiantly an amanita!... there are deadly mushrooms in this Genus so be careful man.

It could be poisonous dude.. Amanita is never an SP. of mushrooms to mess around with, incase you're sure you have A. Muscaria, which that is not.  ( And you should still be very careful with A.muscaria. )

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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: krankzinnig]
    #12722446 - 06/10/10 07:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Don't feed it to anyone/anything.

Check here, second mushroom in.


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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: falcon]
    #12722447 - 06/10/10 07:11 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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falcon said:
It's an amanita, to ID we need to see the base of the stem.



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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: falcon]
    #12722462 - 06/10/10 07:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Have you ever identified a Grisette without seeing the base?  I see these all the time.  I only use the base for confirmation.


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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #12722473 - 06/10/10 07:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yep, but Amanita pholiodes has a striate cap and that pic isn't clear enough for me to say for certain that it's a grissette.

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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #12722483 - 06/10/10 07:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Have you ever identified a Grisette without seeing the base?  I see these all the time.  I only use the base for confirmation.



Are you asking me? Yes, amanita vaginata, I see a lot of them. If I see it, and 20 feet away there is another, I don't need to see the stem base. I don't eat them anyway

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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: falcon]
    #12722494 - 06/10/10 07:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Well Kuo says it doesn't.

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Cap: 4-14 cm, nearly oval, becoming convex, then broadly convex to flat in age; smooth; sticky when wet, shiny when dry; color ranging from greenish to olive to yellowish to brownish, sometimes even white; sometimes with one or a few patches of white veil material; the margin usually not lined.




In other words, the margin is rarely lined though it can be.  It is never striate.  Also I see no patches of any kind on the young cap.  I would call it a Grisette.


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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: SomeGuy]
    #12722500 - 06/10/10 07:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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paducahovoids said:
Quote:

Mr. Mushrooms said:
Have you ever identified a Grisette without seeing the base?  I see these all the time.  I only use the base for confirmation.



Are you asking me? Yes, amanita vaginata, I see a lot of them. If I see it, and 20 feet away there is another, I don't need to see the stem base. I don't eat them anyway




No, I was talking to falcon.  There are several species of Amanita in my area where I don't need to see the base.


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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #12722523 - 06/10/10 07:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Cap 3.5-15 cm broad, convex, expanding to nearly plane, at maturity the disc sometimes slightly raised or depressed; margin entire, seldom striate, or if so, obscurely so; surface subviscid when moist, smooth, occasionally with a faint, appressed, white universal veil patch; color: olive, olive-brown, to yellowish-brown, rarely white, typically with innate, darker streaks, the margin paler, fading overall to dull tan in age; flesh soft, white, moderately thick at the disc, unchanging, at times yellowish-brown just below the cuticle; odor slightly pungent; taste mild.




http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Amanita_phalloides.html

Better safe than dead.

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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: falcon]
    #12722585 - 06/10/10 07:40 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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falcon said:
Quote:

Cap 3.5-15 cm broad, convex, expanding to nearly plane, at maturity the disc sometimes slightly raised or depressed; margin entire, seldom striate, or if so, obscurely so; surface subviscid when moist, smooth, occasionally with a faint, appressed, white universal veil patch; color: olive, olive-brown, to yellowish-brown, rarely white, typically with innate, darker streaks, the margin paler, fading overall to dull tan in age; flesh soft, white, moderately thick at the disc, unchanging, at times yellowish-brown just below the cuticle; odor slightly pungent; taste mild.




http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Amanita_phalloides.html

Better safe than dead.




"margin entire, seldom striate"  He means the margin, not the entire cap.  You have to read it in context.

That mushroom cannot be Phalliodes.  I have saved the day!

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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: krankzinnig]
    #12722688 - 06/10/10 08:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks guys! I'll be sure to keep them away from my doggies, once again, you all saved their lives. Kudos shroomery.org :wink:


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Re: Possible active in North East Ohio? [Re: krankzinnig]
    #12723570 - 06/10/10 10:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:laugh2:

I love how everyone spells Amanita Phalloides differently.


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