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wisp
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Mycelio
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Re: Hessian as "bark" on logs. [Re: wisp]
#12695898 - 06/06/10 08:05 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Trees store antibiotics and fungicides in their bark, so it acts as a protective layer, while the inoculated mycelium can colonize the wood without being disturbed by competitors. I'm afraid your bark replacement won't work as good, but as you are inoculating shiitake, it may create its own protective bark.
Carsten
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punkin
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Re: Hessian as "bark" on logs. [Re: Mycelio]
#12696911 - 06/06/10 12:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Have you done this before tripsis? Or with any other aussie logs?
Could you reply in my thread here...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12144304/page/1
to save stomping on yours and keep the info in a searchable spot?
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Re: Hessian as "bark" on logs. [Re: punkin]
#12697138 - 06/06/10 01:06 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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What if you inoculated the hessian with the mushroom strain first? Soak and sterilize or pasteurize and inoculate with grain or sawdust spawn, incubate for several weeks, then use the mycelium-impregnated hessian as an inner bark, and then wrap some more hessian around it as an outer bark?
Might be too complex and time-consuming to be worthwhile, though it would be interesting to try.
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wisp
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I've not done this before punkin, as I've only just recently thought about it.
Mycelio, so is the fact that tree bark contains natural antibiotics and fungicides the reason that it is so important?
Frankenstoen, I think that's a pretty good idea. It's not really that much for complex to do and might even speed up colonisation by having the total surface of the log covered in mycelium.
I do plan on trying this at some point, but it'll have to wait until I'm back from travelling.
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punkin
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Re: Hessian as "bark" on logs. [Re: wisp]
#12698793 - 06/06/10 06:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, i meant the log inoculation, not nessercarily the hessian.
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wisp
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Re: Hessian as "bark" on logs. [Re: punkin]
#12698811 - 06/06/10 06:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ah, right. I just did my first logs around a week ago. Four Melaleuca logs. I've got enough plugs for another two logs, but as I found the Melaleuca logs so irritating to work with, I'm going to find some Eucalyptus or Angophora logs and use them instead. Then it'll just be a waiting game to see if I'm successful. I won't be able to water them daily, or even weekly, as I won't be in the country, so it'll be up to nature to look after the logs.
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Re: Hessian as "bark" on logs. [Re: wisp]
#12698984 - 06/06/10 07:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, thanks.
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wisp
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Re: Hessian as "bark" on logs. [Re: punkin]
#12714238 - 06/09/10 10:15 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I went looking for some other logs today. The only recently fallen tree I could find was a Eucalyptus, but the entire tree was riddled with termites, a fact I only found out after sawing off two branches by hand.
Anyway, with not much spare time on my hands before going overseas, I'm going to use the two remaining Melaleuca logs I have. However, I'm not willing to deal with the bark again and would like to try out my idea of using hessian, so I'm going to strip the bark off and replace it with hessian. I'll let you all know how it goes.
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