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de-weeding a backyard area....tips?
    #12660885 - 05/31/10 01:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hi all,

today my landlaord agreed to give me access to a backyard area of my apartmen(don't know why i never thought to ask before).

anyway, theres allot of weeds back there.  i dont have any experience/green thumb with stuff like this. i figured i'd just hand pull all weeds and throw them in a trash bag.

i'm thinking it'd be nice to eventually plant some herbs back there (nothing illigal, just your healing/health basics)

any suggestins on how to treat the soil after i'm done cleaning out the weeds?


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #12661221 - 05/31/10 02:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Depends what kind of soil you have. You might want to take a shovel and turn everything over. If there's a lot of weed it might even be a good idea to just leave the weeds where they are and bury them while you are turning the ground.

(What's the word you use for turning sand around before planting? Not plowing, the other one...)

Maybe you can post some pictures so we know what were talking about. Is it a big place? In the middle of the city??
You can also get rid of the weeds by using weed killer. Saves a LOT of time. You just need to get your hands on one of those spraying things. They aren't very expensive though. Or you can borrow one...


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Kamek]
    #12661447 - 05/31/10 03:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

coool, thanks for the input. ill post up a pic in a little while.


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #12661806 - 05/31/10 04:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Preen. It is a weed pre emergent. After you pull all those nasty weeds up, shake preen(it's organic too) into the intended growing area and it will kill weeds up to 3 months. I've used it in my beds and my costumers beds for years. It costs around 12 bucks and you'll probably have enough left over for next year. Good stuff:thumbup:


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: dangermike78]
    #12665691 - 06/01/10 10:02 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I had an enormous amount of success with my garden plot in my front yard by simply layering corrugated cardboard on top of the grass along with some old jars of various mushroom species (Reishi, Oysters, and Cubes). I then tossed down a layer of cow manure and potting soil, planted my tomatoes/bell peppers and tossed mulch on top.

Barely any weeds and I've pulled over a half ounce of P. Cubensis from my garden in the last 3 weeks of heavy rain.


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Kamek]
    #12665777 - 06/01/10 10:27 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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(What's the word you use for turning sand around before planting? Not plowing, the other one...)




tilling?

yeah one can just till under all the old weeds and they should provide nutrients for the following garden.

I suggest making some raised beds on top of your tilled soil. Keep an eye on your garden for the first 2 seasons, they are going to be the worst ones regarding weeds and bug infestations.


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: cyanophilus]
    #12667461 - 06/01/10 04:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

If you have a small garden another way to get rid of weeds is to get a big piece of dark plastic or a tarp and spread it out and leave it there for a while. Good if you're lazy.


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Kamek]
    #12695445 - 06/06/10 03:19 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

burn it all


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: mycurious]
    #12695644 - 06/06/10 05:13 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Pull everything, shake the soil off the roots of everything you pull, then just drop the weeds to let them dry & die for about 1-2 wks (works especially well if the weather's nice and dry). Then till soil thoroughly (work dried weeds through the soil if they aren't too big), rake out the big debris and plant crops. That's the way I've always done it, and it works perfectly. And you don't need any herbicides or other shit.


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: koraks]
    #12696441 - 06/06/10 10:53 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

yeah and make sure you aren't raking under weeds with seed tops if you don't want them to grow back :grin:


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: cyanophilus]
    #12701715 - 06/07/10 05:43 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The first time round is gonna seem a bit pointless anyway because everything is going to grow back extremely fast. But if you keep it clean it will get better with time.


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #12707298 - 06/08/10 04:16 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Weed by hand what you can.

If you have a hose use Ortho Dial N Spray.  It's a little sprayer that attaches to the hose. 

http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?proId=prod70022&itemId=cat50094

Follow the directions closely and don't over-spray.  It'll take 2-3 weeks for everything to die off.

If you REALLY have problems use round-up, but be VERY careful with that.  Round-up kills EVERYTHING (even grass).  It tends to put little "holes" of burned out and killed grass in lawns (by contrast, the ortho spray is selective for weeds).


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: badchad]
    #12707497 - 06/08/10 06:40 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Round up even kills plants I think. Don't think it's something you want to use if you don't know what you're doing. You just need a tiny amount to kill a lot of plants/weeds/grass etc...


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Kamek]
    #12707544 - 06/08/10 07:09 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Cut the top off the plant you want to kill, touch the cut with a Q-tip dabbed in your spray.
The plant dies, your lawn doesn't, -- Tons of fish and invertebrates and probably us later as well don't die (from drinking pesticides) either.


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Kamek]
    #12707782 - 06/08/10 08:36 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Round up even kills plants I think. Don't think it's something you want to use if you don't know what you're doing. You just need a tiny amount to kill a lot of plants/weeds/grass etc...




Yes.  It does.

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If you REALLY have problems use round-up, but be VERY careful with that.  Round-up kills EVERYTHING (even grass).  It tends to put little "holes" of burned out and killed grass in lawns (by contrast, the ortho spray is selective for weeds).




I only use it in (relatively) extreme cases.  For instance, I've cleared entire garden beds with it when I wanted to install a rock garden.

I also have a brick-layed walkway.  Grass and weeds constantly grow up through the cracks of the bricks.  Round up works great on that.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: badchad]
    #12710573 - 06/08/10 05:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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I also have a brick-layed walkway.  Grass and weeds constantly grow up through the cracks of the bricks.  Round up works great on that.




Boiling water works as well.  It cooks the roots.  You'll need to repeat the application a couple weeks after the first, to get the stuff that didn't die, but after that you'll only need a little here and there.  Very environmentally friendly.


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Link]
    #12726137 - 06/11/10 01:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Theres Corn gluten meal, stops weed seeds form growing.White distilled vineger, works good for where you pets will be..Salt, but nothing will ever grow there


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Brainiac]
    #12777003 - 06/21/10 01:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Well if it's out of use I assume you are going to have to lay down new fertilizer and soil of some sort. If I were you I would acquire a Hula-Ho and either and get the ground a bit moist. Then you could just ho all the weeds up rack them away, repeat till the ground is weed free and just get rid of all the weeds or buy a compost bin to put them in.
You'd have to hand pull some weeds if they are particularly deep but you wouldn't believe how much work the Hula-Ho does.


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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #12787370 - 06/22/10 09:03 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

You can bury the weed,because the weed can act as fertilizer .

If you want to completely de-weed , you can choose the right weed killer solution
which will not affect the plant what you are going to grow.





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Re: de-weeding a backyard area....tips? [Re: Brainiac]
    #12815647 - 06/27/10 11:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I 2nd the corn gluten meal--organic by product of corn milling.  It inhibits all seed growth, so don't use it in areas where you have seeds emerging.

And I add a table spoon of dish soap to vinegar.  I think the soap helps the vinegar hang around a bit longer, kills more effectively.


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