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du_Rag_scotland
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The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face?
#1270683 - 02/02/03 08:41 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now I may be WAY off base here but I hae been told that if you don't pick the shroom after the cap has broken free the shroom will continue to grow but will not produce anymore psilocybin than it had when the cap split. If this is true it would explain why most of the HUGE examples of shrooms that are seen have been FOUND in nature. Who knows how long ago the cap split. So what I am saying is that if someone is growing shrooms then as long as they don't pick the shrooms and keep the cake wet and inject some honey water into it now and again for food you could grow HUGE shrooms. The only reall pupose to this would either be to show people on the net that you can grow the bigest shrooms or for evil dealers that sell by grms and don't care about their customers. What do you think folks? Have I hit the nail on the head? Or just bruised some wood?
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: du_Rag_scotland]
#1270713 - 02/02/03 08:56 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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not in my experience. Huge shrooms just occur - normally as a result of having plenty of moisture in the substrate. If you leave an ordinary (say 3 inch mushroom) it will just eventually fall over, split the cap, or make the cap curl upwards. I like most cultivators have experienced the huge shroom from time to time (normally - for me anyway on the second flush where the cake had a really good dunking) I have never heard of anyone injecting honey water into a substrate that is supporting mushrooms, I think this would probably just invite contams.
Edited by mix_up (02/02/03 08:57 AM)
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: du_Rag_scotland]
#1270805 - 02/02/03 09:37 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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but the energy in the substrait would be going towards prodceing large fruits, not psiocybin production, you cakes would die quicker
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: du_Rag_scotland]
#1270838 - 02/02/03 09:49 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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really thick poo substrates (4in+) = huge shrooms growing them out after the veil breaks is pointless, and most do just fall over eventually
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du_Rag_scotland
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: X.O]
#1271081 - 02/02/03 11:30 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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That may be true but would a 10 gram mushroom picked when the viel just breaks have the same psilocybin content as if had not been picked till it weighed 15 grams. And sure your cakes would die faster but thats why you keep injecting them with honey water (that 4 inch shit casing sounds good to). I think Orissa India would probably respond well to this technique.
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: du_Rag_scotland]
#1271096 - 02/02/03 11:42 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its not about size. Its how you use it.
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: X.O]
#1271136 - 02/02/03 12:12 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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You'll still get more trip per cake if you pick when the veil breaks.
Injecting honeywater doesn't help.
Poo casing is spawning. It works, but it takes longer.
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du_Rag_scotland
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1271633 - 02/02/03 04:01 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not disputing which way getts more tripps per cake. Obviously you will get more if you pick when the vail breaks. The purpose of this post is to see if this technique works to produce huge shrooms simply for the sake of growing huge shrooms. It is just a knowledge thing.
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: du_Rag_scotland]
#1271777 - 02/02/03 04:47 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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make a large, deep substrate of poo and keep it moist and lots of air exchange. that, while not THE secret to big shrooms, is a good tip for them.
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: du_Rag_scotland]
#1271805 - 02/02/03 04:54 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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On cakes? I doubt it.
Dude, are you stoned?
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: X.O]
#1272324 - 02/02/03 09:15 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please provide scientific documentation.
You say, "I'm saying,you're wrong,thats just a myth,the psilocybin content doesn't just stop as soon as the veil breaks."
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: Joshua]
#1272421 - 02/02/03 10:51 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please provide scientific documentation that is does stop
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: X.O]
#1272669 - 02/03/03 03:07 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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i agree, you need some documentation. around here pretty much everyone says after the veil breaks psilos stop. doesn't mean you're wrong, i would just like some conformation
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: flow]
#1272691 - 02/03/03 03:16 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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I doubt there is much if any existing documentation relating to this issues (point in life cycle vs. potency) or the debates would have be put to rest long ago. So the questtion is how do we test this. How is quantitative analysis of the compostion of a mushroom done? Analytical chem isn't my strong suit.
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: ]
#1272782 - 02/03/03 03:58 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now, I'm a newbie so I don't really know much but the way I read and interpreted it was that it's best to pick the shrooms when the veil breaks because they're at their optimum potency then. That would lead me to believe that even though psilocybin production doesn't stop all together, it may in fact slow down. So eating a 20 gram monster shroom that broke its veil days ago would not be as potent as eating two 10 grams shrooms that had just broken their veils. I've also read that the aborts are stronger although I have no experience to back this up. Just thought I would let ya know how I interpreted all that information.
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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: Anno]
#1272894 - 02/03/03 04:52 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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whateverman03
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: X.O]
#1272928 - 02/03/03 05:04 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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in my experience, when I eat 3g of aborts or closed capped, it's strong to the point of unpleasentness. When I eat a 3g shroom by itself with an open cap that has released spores, I am easily able to handle the effects. I think that the production slows down once the veil breaks because this has happened to everyone I know, without failure (the 6 or 7 times that we have kept track of such things). This is just my opinion, but I have had plenty of experience to justify it.
Anyone know a reaction/experiment that can quantitatively determine the amount of psilo? I'd be interested to hear of such a thing, and to see the results, obviously.
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Anno
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Re: The secret of HUGE shrooms! Right in our face? [Re: whateverman03]
#1273101 - 02/03/03 06:02 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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>Anyone know a reaction/experiment that can quantitatively determine the amount of psilo? The Measure of the Mushroom
Edited by Anno (02/03/03 06:04 AM)
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