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OfflineFazEd
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anti-anxity question
    #1268125 - 02/01/03 02:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

My friend is on an anti-anxiety/depressant pill right now called venlafaxine HCl aka effexor. Im wondering if it would be alright for him to do mushrooms while on the pill.... If so what do you think the recommended dosage for him would be, he has done mushrooms before also.


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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: FazEd]
    #1268806 - 02/01/03 05:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think it would depend on how bad his case is , if his deprerssion is really bad then i wouldnt suggest he take them , but if its very mild then go for it..


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    #1268873 - 02/01/03 05:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: FazEd]
    #1269261 - 02/01/03 08:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I got sick when I took shrooms when I was taking effexor.

rofl instead of stopping shrooms, I stopped the effexor :wink:


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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: Strumpling]
    #1269326 - 02/01/03 09:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks so much for your input guys, I was talkin with my friend and what you guys described is exacly what he felt... While he was on these pills when we would smoke we found that he would get really high, and he also said that it was like mushrooms all the time with weed and without, like you were saying about it amplifying the effects and feeling like a constant mush trip.

Thanks again.

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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: poke smot!]
    #1288807 - 02/07/03 02:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Combining SSRI's and mushrooms will not cause serotonin syndrome. It is caused when an SSRI is taken with something else that directly effects serotonin (ie: by releasing it or inhibiting metabolism). Since psilocybin does not cause the release of serotonin it will not cause serotonin syndrome.

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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: trendal]
    #1289197 - 02/07/03 04:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

bad idea. antidepressant drugs, if its a monoamine osidase inhibito, will dramatically increase the trip level. "MAOIs in Combination with Psychedelics
Generally-increase the effects of the psychedelic significantly. Be extremely careful" find out if its a maoi.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois_info8.shtml


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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: sancho]
    #1289300 - 02/07/03 05:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I was talking about SSRI's, not MAOI's.

I'm not sure why anyone would go on an MAOI in this day and age. They are way too dangerous IMHO.


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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: trendal]
    #1289425 - 02/07/03 06:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not sure why anyone would go on an MAOI in this day and age. They are way too dangerous IMHO.




I'm not sure if they're available in the states,but there are newer MAOI's that are more selective for a certain type of MAO,that are much less dangerous.I've heard they don't react as badly with tyramine,thus being less likely to cause hypertensive crises.They are definately not first line treatments though.


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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: trendal]
    #1289448 - 02/07/03 06:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Combining SSRI's and mushrooms will not cause serotonin syndrome




Actually,I don't think that's entirely true.I think serotonin syndrome is caused by overexcitation of serotonin receptors,but doesn't necessarily need to be caused by serotonin itself.I don't think it's very likely to happen though with SSRI's and psychedelics though.However,there is a good amount of literature describing people who've taken LSD with lithium,tricyclics,and MOAI having seizures.

Overall,it's probably not a good idea to mix Effexor and mushrooms,especially if the person has only been on the the medicine for a short period of time or they are depressed.


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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: FazEd]
    #1290013 - 02/07/03 11:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ive been taking Effexor for 6 years with Manic Depression and Ive had both good and bad trips with it.......I avoid taking them shrooms now though cuz I saw this commercial during the superbowl where this real young girl got pregnant because she smoked weed....anyone else stop tripping after seeing that Commercial?


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Re: anti-anxity question [Re: Northernsoul]
    #1290518 - 02/08/03 08:57 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

that commercial made me want to puke


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