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Offlinekykeon
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Kukuruku
    #1267992 - 02/01/03 12:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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this is a kukuruku kind-of-post, but it involves mushroom identification.

too bad i dont have any photos to show.

i have a friend who is wycked and he does all wycked experiments. now he is trying to cultivate mj. in one of his pots, with two babies mj plants (from seeds) he decided to pour some milk in the soil [jesus...] to see what will happen. well, in a week mushrooms appeared next to the mj plants :laugh:

the shrooms were tiny, with grey-brown small caps, looked like inocybe or something and they probably loooove milk :smile:

any ideas? just for the shake of discussion!


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Re: Kukuruku [Re: kykeon]
    #1268886 - 02/01/03 05:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The only flower pot mushrooms I know of are Lepiota lutea(which goes by a different name now, but I can't think of it.). They are normaly bright yellow with a yellow powder on the cap. So I don't think thats what you've got... hrmmmm....


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Re: Kukuruku [Re: kykeon]
    #1269253 - 02/01/03 08:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Milky caps!  :grin:
No... seriously. From the information you provided I can only assume it's not an mycorrhizal mushroom. So it cannot be an Inocybe. Weeds are the plants that don't form mycorrhiza with mushrooms - I guess weed is a weed, but who knows. :smile:
They could be Coprinus. Did they dissappear quickly? 


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Re: Kukuruku [Re: kykeon]
    #1269322 - 02/01/03 08:59 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Interesting. We're going to need more description to be able to guess those. They might have been immature also, which would make identification more difficult.

Gumby, the official name is Leucocoprinus birnbaumii. A ridiculous name, but that's what they've saddled us with.

I like the idea of milk caps. The question is - since Lactarius are traditionally the milk caps, would that make these "pseudo milk caps"? Or should we rearrange things and make the Lactarius the pseudos?


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Re: Kukuruku [Re: Gumby]
    #1269458 - 02/01/03 10:03 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i've seen sulpher turfs and some mushrooms looking somewhat like an agrocybe in flower pots before.


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Re: Kukuruku [Re: zeronio]
    #1270671 - 02/02/03 10:34 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

okee. this is what i remember. the pot has two baby mj plants. the soil is simple soil, nothing special. he had used the same soil from the same bag on every other pot, none of them got shrooms.

the pot with the shrooms was the only one which had milk in it.

the mushrooms (three in total number) appeared in a snap and died very very quickly. all of them grew on the side of the pot, a bit away of the plants, so i dont think the mycelium has anything to do with the mj plant.

the caps were grey to brown [dark] were full of lines [fuck my english, dunno how to express it]. okee here we go again. the caps had gills on the bottom but on the top the cap wasnt a smooth surface; it was more like having waves or lines coming from the center to the end of the cap. phew. hope someone understand :smile: lol

MY THEORY:

inside the soil were some mushroom spores that found the milk to colonize. :grin:

ANOTHER IDEA:

i will tell him to pour some more milk and then wait for them to appear and grab a photo :smile:


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Re: Kukuruku [Re: kykeon]
    #1270876 - 02/02/03 12:08 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Would it have been possible for mycena spores to travel in this dirt?


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Re: Kukuruku [Re: kykeon]
    #1271784 - 02/02/03 06:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

kykeon - the word you're looking for is "striate". It describes both the radial lines on the cap and the ridges. I think moorhsum is probably on the right track - the description you've given sounds like any of several species of Mycena. Mycenas are incredibly common but often overlooked because of their small sizes and drab coloration. They are some of the main decomposers of plant materials in the world. Given that we don't have a really detailed description this is all, of course, a guess. If the milk actually helped the mushrooms grow, it may have been due to a pH change in the medium, or I suspect that the mycelium is in all of the pots and the milk in some way helped to induce it to fruit. Mycena mycelium in pots like that would help the plants because it would break down organic matter in the soil and make it more available to the plants.

moorhsum - it is probably possible for the spores to have travelled with the soil. But I would suspect that they came from the environment. Most mushrooms spores are made to travel on air currents, and Mycena, being a saprophytic genus, would want to be adapted to spread spores that way.


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Re: Kukuruku [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1272386 - 02/03/03 12:09 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Since they disappeared quickly I think they were more likely Coprinus. They're very common and are even considered a contamination when growing mushrooms.
Here is an example of striate coprinus:
http://www.grzyby.pl/coprinus-site-Kees-Uljee/species/dissemin.htm


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Re: Kukuruku [Re: zeronio]
    #1272424 - 02/03/03 12:56 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

zeronio, those shrooms are looking exactly as the shrooms i am reffering to. :smile: cool.


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