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TimmiT


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Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability
#12676941 - 06/03/10 04:59 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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It seems that Psilocybe subaeruginosa is a very variable species. I think that the image below demonstrates that variability well. It's hard to believe that these are the same species, but I guess it shows how much the environment can impact on their growth.
 *Note this is a composite image of two seperate photos and was made for illustrative purposes. I tried to match the scale as best I could but it may not be exact.
These two mushrooms were only found about a week apart but from very different habitats. The one on the right was found in a pine plantation and the one on the left was found in a eucalypt forest about 40-50km away (both in central victoria).
If anyone else has pics of subaeruginosa variations please post them here.
Here are a couple more photos
Edited by TimmiT (06/03/10 08:48 AM)
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user1837483975


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: TimmiT]
#12676947 - 06/03/10 05:01 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know man, looks to me like different stages of development. The ones on the left don't look mature to me.
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TimmiT


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: user1837483975]
#12676954 - 06/03/10 05:07 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah they are at different stages of development but the first pic shows just how different they are, the less mature one is 3 or 4 times larger than the fully mature one.
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ouijah


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: TimmiT]
#12676975 - 06/03/10 05:17 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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TimmiT said: It's hard to believe that these are the same species
I know exactly what you mean. The different colours and shapes baffle me
Edited by ouijah (06/29/10 08:00 PM)
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: ouijah]
#12676987 - 06/03/10 05:25 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah the most important bit if the blue bruising that ALL subs produce. Although I am sure that there are a few different species of subs in Victoria... they do look different, some have nipples up top, others don't...
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husk
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: PsychoReactive]
#12677380 - 06/03/10 08:40 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was just about to make the EXACT same post tonight, but i left my camera at my mates. i went picking in a couple of spots (we put em in a maccas dinner box and filled it 1/4 the way to the top, it got fairly heavy) anyhow its not development so much , cause some were huge pins with fat stems and others were small dishes with thin stems. if it were development it would be the other way along. it could be enviromental conditions, mutations or other kinds of variations in the species.
but so long as the gill colour, stem colour, hollow stem is right its a fair bet....oh and like psychoactiv said INK BLUE BRUISING!!! i didn't say cap colour because i've seen that vary a fair bit depending on how dry it is, usually they all look the same when in pinheads/phallice stage though just differnt sizes.
there are even some that have caps sooo thin you can see the gill lines through the top of em......amazing little things...they are so comical in a way, does anyone else feel like the shrooms play a game with you when your hunting?????
they do all kinds of funny things, i mean i always find em, but they do the damndest things....almost everytime i'm about to give up on a spot i spot a bunch they have the funniest personalities.
oh and some of them have really woody stalks, and take ages to go blue, those aren't really worth eating anyhow, i imagine they'd be low on active content.
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: husk]
#12679542 - 06/03/10 03:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lots of variables when it comes to Subaeruginosa - Environment, moisture, substrate, maturity... Plenty to keep us interested 
Here are a bunch of photos I have taken of different looking Subs, check out my user gallery for a ton more photos:
                    
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: msanchez420]
#12679801 - 06/03/10 04:30 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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my god that a lot of beauties you have there. you make me jealous!
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: dxharms]
#12680339 - 06/03/10 06:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice montage there msanchez420, tricky little buggers. I'm printing all my sub finds, to double check ID, and perhaps to plant those prints in virgin habitats (anyone know why this shouldn't work? I'll have a look on cultivation)
I'm finding variation in spore colour even among subs with similar morphology. Print colour ranging from dark almost black purple, with most prints around the standard purple-black and some definitely brownish purple. I haven't risked any of the brownish printing mushrooms yet, thoughts?
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: Mycorrhiza]
#12680396 - 06/03/10 06:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cheers guys, I hope they are useful.
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Mycorrhiza said: Nice montage there msanchez420, tricky little buggers. I'm printing all my sub finds, to double check ID, and perhaps to plant those prints in virgin habitats (anyone know why this shouldn't work? I'll have a look on cultivation)
I'm finding variation in spore colour even among subs with similar morphology. Print colour ranging from dark almost black purple, with most prints around the standard purple-black and some definitely brownish purple. I haven't risked any of the brownish printing mushrooms yet, thoughts?
Spray the spores in woodchip beds, that's how mushrooms do it in nature - they don't go out and make up agar or use the cardboard tek and they seem to pop up just fine 
Post photos of any that you are unsure of, we'll have a look for you and give a ID.
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: Mycorrhiza]
#12680400 - 06/03/10 06:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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TimmiT


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: msanchez420]
#12682389 - 06/04/10 12:26 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for posting all those pics sanchez... it really shows how variable subs can be 
 ^^^ This one is awesome
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability *DELETED* [Re: TimmiT]
#12787775 - 06/22/10 10:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: ouijah]
#12788035 - 06/22/10 11:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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meep
Edited by jsnake (06/23/10 02:28 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: jsnake]
#12788059 - 06/22/10 11:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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jsnake said: Something I find strange about this thread. He's talking about Psilocybe Subaeruginosa, not Panaeolus Sub, yet people keep uploading sub pics. I found some I think are Ps Sub, but I'm noob as and gotta get them IDed, even though spore prints match. They don't look anything like the pics I've seen of ps sub, and stem isn't hollow :S?
Psilocybe subaeruginosa are subs, Panaeolus cinctulus are subbs. No one's uploaded the latter; all of the pictures in this thread are of Psilocybe subaeruginosa.
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: elprawn]
#12788612 - 06/23/10 02:28 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shows what I know
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thomushed

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: TimmiT]
#13597664 - 12/07/10 07:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think i found some just down the road from my house yesterday. I've never picked wood-dwelling mushrooms before, from what i read its not their climate, and they're only similar to a couple of the pictures on here. i'm going this afternoon to take a photograph of them. hopefully someone on here can confirm their species.
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: thomushed]
#13597727 - 12/07/10 07:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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1. This thread is half a year old. 2. P. subaeruginosa is not in season.
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thomushed

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa variability [Re: CubeBensies]
#13597881 - 12/07/10 07:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'll go to the park and post some photos soon. maybe they're a different species, maybe they're not even psilocybe mushrooms? thanks for your advice.
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