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Re: Positive Vibes and Negative Vibes - Whats up with that? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
    #12670950 - 06/02/10 06:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I just read the OP, but I definitely don't think you know what a vibe is.  It's not tangible; why would you expect to "feel" anything from it (at least physically)?  That chill you felt was from YOU, not from vibes.

When people ask for good vibes, they just mean that they're looking for positivity.  Positivity breeds positivity.


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Re: Positive Vibes and Negative Vibes - Whats up with that? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
    #12671139 - 06/02/10 08:17 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Here's my logic behind your thinking and why it is troublesome to accept; by the way, yes I do feel uncomfortable and comfortable around people, except that lately I've come to question the whole vibes thing for one fundamental thing brah....

YOU CANNOT BE 100% CERTAIN WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING IN YOUR MIND IN THE MOMENTS PRECEDING THE EMOTION.

The mind is such a complex tool that if I accept that interpretation you gave me, I would have to assume that I have perfect, or near perfect control over seeing all the workings of the mind and the mental activities that may or may not lead to emotions, BECAUSE, I cannot yet rule out that I feel things based on the thoughts in my mind(for example, sitting at home by myself, I feel things that have nothing to do with vibes of a person and so I must admit that to some extent emotions come from my mind as well and not just vibes)


:craven:

So what say ye' - doth ye know all the workings of the mind and how they might/might not affect the way you feel 100%.....

Well, its kind of complicated but really what we are talking about is why we feel things - and if one of the variables in what we feel(the minds thoughts) is not perfectly yet understood in all its capacities, then we cant rule it out of causing 'vibes' sometimes and us just imagining it cant be the mind.




I think I understand where you are coming from. You are saying that it is possible the feeling of 'vibes' is simply created by/in our mind-- and by believing vibes are caused by external sources, we are ignoring this possibility.

My response to this is two parts. First, if you make 100% certainty a requirement for knowledge, are you able to know anything anymore? I'd say that's an unrealistic requirement to have before you will believe anything.

But secondly, positive thinking has been shown to have effects on the self-- this is scientifically proven. Now, I could either argue that 'positive thinking' is simply another term for 'positive vibes'-- but I won't. Instead I'll just simply point out that knowing people are 'sending goods vibes' to you, and believing in the power of them, is enough to put you into a positive mood using only placebo effect-- and from there it is easier to keep yourself in a positive frame of mind. Thus, positive effects from positive vibes-- but only if you believe.


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Re: Positive Vibes and Negative Vibes - Whats up with that? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #12671168 - 06/02/10 08:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Even if you don't believe in vibes, you'd probably just see it as the other person's positive emotions "rubbing off on you", which is the same thing in my opinion.


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Re: Positive Vibes and Negative Vibes - Whats up with that? [Re: PsychedelicSpirit]
    #12671585 - 06/02/10 10:07 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I think I better clear up what I said;

Here are like the main points

1. If we all acknowledge that feelings can be created by thinking and we are trying to understand which feelings then arise from vibes and which from thinking then one fundamental fact must be completly established.

2. That fact being; we have complete control and access to our thoughts. For example, imagine you are sitting in a room with people, you close your eyes. You start feeling a strong feeling and your trying to assess whether it is your thinking that is causing it or not. Is it not then nessecary, in order to distinguish between feelings created by thoughts and those created by vibes, to be able to see just how much of an effect your mind has on your feelings, before you make a conclusion about vibes?

From my experience most often than not I realize that vibes are merly preconcieved expectations about a persons appearence in relation to their personality(ie. blondes are dumb, brunnettes are smart) more than vibes....I also realized that the mind is so obscure and chaotic that it is hard to tell just how much it is my expectations about a person that causes vibes.


Thats my main point; if our thoughts(mainly expectations) can cause feelings from a person and we not really see just how much those expectations are affecting us, because they have been preconditioned over time, then really what we think of vibes is merly a subjective field of experience, where emotions are being created in a way that we interpret as vibes, but really are simply just feelings/emotions that are created from subconcious thoughts that we cannot even see are happening in our mind.


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Re: Positive Vibes and Negative Vibes - Whats up with that? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
    #12671625 - 06/02/10 10:16 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's just like saying "good luck" or "i'm praying for you" or "may the force be with you"...

I don't think most people that use the phrase actually sit there and try to transmit positive energy from their bodies to the other person.


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Re: Positive Vibes and Negative Vibes - Whats up with that? [Re: RipVanWinkle]
    #12672466 - 06/02/10 01:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I could see that, but apparently there are people who do.

I for one, was and still to some extent am one of those people...I have recently concluded this shiiiiteeeee

This is what I've left off with.

:fonda:


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