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OfflineAnotherDimension
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Re: Passing out on shrooms [Re: Big_Whoop]
    #9322161 - 11/27/08 01:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Ramuh said:
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kaniz said:
Well, arnt mushrooms technically poisining you? 




No.




yes they are. they are toxic to humans, a large enough dose will kill you.

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17 kilograms of fresh mushrooms, would be required for a 60kg person to reach the 280mg/kg LD50 rate of rats.







A large enough dose of anything will kill you, and not everything is a poison. 

Poison:
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1 a: a substance that through its chemical action usually kills, injures, or impairs an organism




You can argue that mushrooms are poison based on their impairment of a person.  Other people could easily argue that what you call impairment is merely operating on a different level.  I don't think that mushrooms are poison in the sense that arsenic is a poison, but that is the stance the government has taken.


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Re: Passing out on shrooms [Re: AnotherDimension]
    #9322176 - 11/27/08 01:23 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

obviously eating enough of anything will kill you.

kaniz said mushrooms are poison.
you said they are not, they are actually toxic, so i made it clear.


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Re: Passing out on shrooms [Re: Big_Whoop]
    #9322246 - 11/27/08 01:39 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Anything can kill you, if you consume too much of it.  But, psilocybin is a drug, not a poison.  In other words, you aren't getting effects because it is killing you. 

Drug: a substance that is used as a medicine or narcotic.
Poison: any substance that causes injury or illness or death of a living organism.

If we're talking about psilocybin.  Not sure, but I think Aminitas might be a different story.  I think they're more of a narcotic poison like alcohol.  I might be wrong, though.


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Re: Passing out on shrooms [Re: 04281969]
    #9322441 - 11/27/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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In other words, you aren't getting effects because it is killing you. 




lol, yah i know.

i dont know for 100% sure that psilocybin is a 'poison' but this seems to be factual.
http://www.shroomery.org/6297/Psilocybe-Toxicity-Information


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Re: Passing out on shrooms [Re: Big_Whoop]
    #9322624 - 11/27/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

If you weighed 220 lbs, you would need around 5600 grams of shrooms (12 1/3 pounds)according to your reference to reach the LD50. 

Even if they're talking about wet weight, so long as you keep it under a pound, you should be okay.


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Re: Passing out on shrooms [Re: 04281969]
    #9322651 - 11/27/08 03:38 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like an anxiety/panic attack brought on by the shrooms.  I've seen it happen to a few different ppl from smoking weed, and they explained it the same way - feeling hot, kinda dizzy, and then just passing out briefly.


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Re: Passing out on shrooms [Re: J3illy]
    #9326384 - 11/28/08 09:59 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I've felt like I was gonna pass out 2 times trippin.  All I had to do was lay down for a minute and it got better, and my trip was good after that.  I used to trip a lot and mostly all of them were good trips, but I would randomly get that passing out feeling a couple times.  Mushrooms can be unpredictable some times.  I don't believe it's all about mind set at the time, because the few times I have had unpleasent trips I was in a good mood when I took them.  Mushrooms just fuck with people some times.


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Re: Passing out on shrooms [Re: Big_Whoop]
    #9327042 - 11/28/08 12:32 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Big_Whoop said:
obviously eating enough of anything will kill you.






Including aspirin and water....both will kill you in smaller dosages than any psilocybe mushroom will....


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Re: Passing out on shrooms [Re: Big_Whoop]
    #9327218 - 11/28/08 01:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Big_Whoop said:
obviously eating enough of anything will kill you.

kaniz said mushrooms are poison.
you said they are not, they are actually toxic, so i made it clear.




Actually, no.  It was ramuh that said they are not, and you responded to him.  My first post in this thread was what you are responding to.

My point was merely that whether psilocybin is poisonous is a debatable point.  Also, you'd have to be arguing for the weakest definition of poisoning, that of impairment.


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