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krum
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: SomeGuy]
#13248358 - 09/26/10 08:22 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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paducahovoids said: Don't get mad at me, I wanted to tell you about my recent sucess with this and give a tip. I had an infected pf cake, so I took it outside, opened it and picked out the silver-dollar sized mycelium spots, gave them a 30 second bath in 10% bleach, and broke them up into some woodchips. After spawning for a month, I buried them under my tree( there was plenty of green in there, too). I've harvested at least 10 dry g off of it now, and I'm still hoping for more, as sooon as it rains. My spent contaminated pf cakes and casings have never done anything Moral to the story; if you keep the uncolonized grain/flour to a minimum, and spawn to woodchips, the likelyhood of success is higher because bugs and rodents won't be all over it eating it
yeah, squirrels got to the outdoor I had planned. I'll go for smaller next time. But why would you bleach it?
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SomeGuy
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: krum]
#13248370 - 09/26/10 08:29 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just because it had trich, an I was hoping to eliminate it, but it didn't do any good the mush still grew though
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: hamloaf]
#13248391 - 09/26/10 08:39 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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longslocksmith said: if you put contaminated substrates out side would the mushies it made not ne toxic??????
No, in fact an increase in potency has been found in the outdoor fruits as apposed to the indoor fruits.
I've noticed this too. I think. Weird.
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! *DELETED* [Re: hamloaf]
#13250519 - 09/26/10 06:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13250912 - 09/26/10 07:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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No it won't make them toxic, you'll be fine - common myth
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: ambargh]
#13251238 - 09/26/10 08:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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ambargh said:
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longslocksmith said: if you put contaminated substrates out side would the mushies it made not ne toxic??????
No, in fact an increase in potency has been found in the outdoor fruits as apposed to the indoor fruits.
I've noticed this too. I think. Weird.

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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: dmonkey1]
#13251250 - 09/26/10 09:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll have to check my patch later tonight or tomorrow when all the lightning stops.I checked on it a few days ago and it was still colonizing under the grass clippings (of course the trich had spread even more across the substrate,but I see some nice rhizo growth in a few spots too).
I'll get some pics as soon either a.m. tomorrow or later tonight if the lightning stops.
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13251624 - 09/26/10 10:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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longslocksmith said: Thank you iam still new and just like knowing all I can Iam on my first grow and they won't do any thing so I put 3 of them out under the tree I read someware that if a cake has comtam it will make the mushies toxic and could kill u that's why I wanted to know thank you again

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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: hamloaf]
#13251754 - 09/26/10 10:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you
iam sure I will have lots and lots more ??????'s
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13282210 - 10/03/10 01:09 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey everyone, i live in Toronto, i have a couple of Hawaiians cakes that are contaminated, can i still put them outdoors in this weather?
Strain: Hawaiians. Cube - I Think, Bought at THC
Thanks.
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joshstins420
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: PeyotePro]
#13282217 - 10/03/10 01:14 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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its better than just throwing them out
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: joshstins420]
#13282256 - 10/03/10 01:37 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Would putting a little dirt on top of the patch help any?
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Niwita
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13282565 - 10/03/10 05:00 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Probably won't hurt it. Old grass clippings would work better though.
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Mad_Hatter2004
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: Niwita]
#13282574 - 10/03/10 05:03 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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hamloaf
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: PeyotePro]
#13282803 - 10/03/10 07:22 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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PeyotePro said: Hey everyone, i live in Toronto, i have a couple of Hawaiians cakes that are contaminated, can i still put them outdoors in this weather?
Strain: Hawaiians. Cube - I Think, Bought at THC
Thanks.
What is your outdoor ambient temperature right now. Cubes don't really fruit well if at all in colder climates. Cubensis are a tropical specie of mushroom. Look in to Ps. Azures and Cyans they fruit in the 40-50 degree temperature range however are a wood loving specie.
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longslocksmith said: Would putting a little dirt on top of the patch help any?
No this would not help. Placing mere dirt on top of the substrate will become muddy once it's watered and that will suffocate your substrate. You can properly pasteurize manure or coir buffered with about 25 percent vermiculite brought to field capacity and all that first. Place a layer of the manure over your substrate and cover with a sheet of plastic with holes sliced into it and your substrate (depending on how contaminated or spent it is) will colonize the manure. Once fully colonized, remove the plastic and cover the substrate with fresh grass clippings or any light and fluffy organic material and water.
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Mad_Hatter2004 said: Nothing but trich
Madd_Hatter, your substrate is becoming infected during the colonization of it. I would say most likely due to mold spores infecting your busted kernels. All it takes in one microscopic mold spore to land on and then germiante a busted kernel to infect your entire substrate. Proper pasteurization and high spawn rations are just a few things we practice to give the mycelium a "head start" against mold spores. In a perfect world, high spawn ratios and proper pasteurization would be a cure all but the fact remains after all the preventive measures in the world, the mold spores still exist in our bulk sub material after proper pasteurization. The trick becomes then to not encourage them to germinate by handling your grain spawn correctly and covering your breath and skin from coming in contact with your substrate material or grain spawn. Although infected substrates are usually a sign of infected grain spawn, life does not always act within the confides of a general rule.
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#13284894 - 10/03/10 03:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13285055 - 10/03/10 04:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just so you guys know... Trichoderma is bad for a mushroom grow, but it's great everywhere else in your garden. Organic gardeners buy trichoderma spores to intentionally put in their garden. You can plant the whole sub, or scrape off the green parts, mix them with water, and irrigate your plants with it.
I have also used trichoderma as a leaf protectant and insect repellent on my most recent round of Super Silver Haze (by mixing with water and spraying on the plants), and it's working even better than I thought. Yay, fungus!
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: scienceguy]
#13291778 - 10/05/10 12:56 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a white ash looking kind of mold on my casing thats on its 4th flush.. Any ideas what it could be? it looks different than the white mold Ive seen before.
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: Deej3987]
#13292044 - 10/05/10 04:22 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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My patch seems to be doing good. Added leafs and grass it smelled like mushies!!!!!!
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#21307043 - 02/21/15 07:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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