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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Solution! [Re: truskool]
    #12999149 - 08/03/10 11:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly my thought process when I first planted these contaminated substrates and see what happens? 

I was thinking that it would be a benefit for you, due to the high temperatures, to place more bulk substrate over your colonized substrate then cover with a sheet of clear plastic with holes slashed in it for GE to further encourage spawn run which would be more suited to the warmer temps.  When temps cool off, place grass clippings, leaves, or straw over the colonized substrate and water in the morning to keep it hydrated all day. 
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Solution! [Re: hamloaf]
    #12999272 - 08/03/10 11:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Thats pretty much wat i did.  Well kinda.  I let the spawn/coir mix sit for several weeks until it was purs white with myc.  Then earlier today I put some soil over the myc and coir.  Think I still should put grass clippings down?  If so ima have to mow my lawn tomorrow:lmafo:


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Solution! [Re: truskool]
    #12999370 - 08/03/10 11:53 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Save and use the grass clippings for fruiting time.  The grass clippings over your colonized substrate will allow for enough FAE to pass over your substrate while keeping humidity high at your substrates surface.
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Solution! [Re: hamloaf]
    #13025449 - 08/09/10 07:52 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

You shoulda checked your patch. Temps have been in the 90s here too and I've been watering my hole..all the substrate that stayed in a chunk has been doing well, I've still been harvesting, though I have found the temp where my hole is, since pretty shaded, is about 5-10 degrees cooler then when you get out of the woods. The stuff that needs to colonize (broke apart) isnt colonizing.

In fact in this high of heat I wouldnt try adding more substrate, trying to get more to colonize in these temps is like incubation. It works ok for fruiting though if you keep them wet. I pour a gallon of water in the hole every day or other day.


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Solution! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #13025735 - 08/09/10 09:41 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Did I say 90's?  I meant 100's for the last month with a heat index of an extra 5 degrees.


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Fuckin' stupid hot and muggy.  You can not last in the muggy heat.  I ain't doing shit in the outdoors until the weather cools off a good fifteen degrees.  I have elm, pink, blue, and and yellow oyster quart sized jars (2 a piece) fully colonized, ready to go and stored in the fridge, not to mention 3 freshly inoculated Azure LC's, using 1 table spoon of LME/DEX with .4th of a gram of nutritional yeast per quart of water (I used tap water this time).  When the weather cools I am going to attempt various styles of proper outdoor beds and log em' up for you all dense asses over here in the cult forums. 
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Solution! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #13040589 - 08/12/10 09:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

This tray caught a patch of trich so I placed out side and am soaking it the morning and it is staying hydrated just fine through out the 100 degree days.  In fact it's shown growth in just the 2 days it's been outside.

KSSS. BRF spawned to straw/cowshit then cased with 5050 chilly chillin' in the out doors.
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Solution! [Re: hamloaf]
    #13040601 - 08/12/10 09:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

very nice! :thumbup:

i just buried some compost/spawn that had green mold all over it....just checked on it and there is some nice myc starting to colonize the poo/compost i placed over it...its a much smalled patch though but ive got my fingers crossed i have some pins within the next week or so.


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Solution! [Re: MoJesus]
    #13040643 - 08/12/10 09:50 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Hell yeah!  I have this 2 week old coir and a fully colonized spawn bag with a spot of trich that just started.  Later today or tomorrow, I am going to take it outside and fuck around.  See what I can come up with.
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    #13247948 - 09/26/10 04:11 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #13248008 - 09/26/10 04:58 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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if you put contaminated substrates out side would the mushies it made not ne toxic??????




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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #13248183 - 09/26/10 07:03 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Because the mushrooms it produces are not toxic.


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #13248199 - 09/26/10 07:10 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Why do you not keep it when it's contamed then





The reason you either toss a cake/substrate or place outside to grow is so that you don't bump up the contaminant mold spore count already present in your home,which would really give an even bigger failure rate for future grows in the home.

If you think you don't have any contaminant mold spores all over your house...you are sorely mistaken.


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: Mad_Hatter2004]
    #13248211 - 09/26/10 07:15 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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The reason you either toss a cake/substrate or place outside to grow is so that you don't bump up the contaminant mold spore count already present in your home,which would really give an even bigger failure rate for future grows in the home.

If you think you don't have any contaminant mold spores all over your house...you are sorely mistaken.




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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: Niwita]
    #13248212 - 09/26/10 07:16 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Don't worry,we all have those days from time to time.


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    #13248226 - 09/26/10 07:23 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Some of us more than others. :facepalm3:


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: Niwita]
    #13248241 - 09/26/10 07:32 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: Niwita]
    #13248252 - 09/26/10 07:38 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Don't get mad at me, I wanted to tell you about my recent sucess with this and give a tip. I had an infected pf cake, so I took it outside, opened it and picked out the silver-dollar sized mycelium spots, gave them a 30 second bath in 10% bleach, and broke them up into some woodchips. After spawning for a month, I buried them under my tree( there was plenty of green in there, too). I've harvested at least 10 dry g off of it now, and I'm still hoping for more, as sooon as it rains. My spent contaminated pf cakes and casings have never done anything:sad:
    Moral to the story; if you keep the uncolonized grain/flour to a minimum, and spawn to woodchips, the likelyhood of success is higher because bugs and rodents won't be all over it eating it:awesomenod:

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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #13248336 - 09/26/10 08:15 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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if you put contaminated substrates out side would the mushies it made not ne toxic??????



No, in fact an increase in potency has been found in the outdoor fruits as apposed to the indoor fruits.

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Why do you not keep it when it's contamed then



The reason contaminated substrates are not kept indoors are due to the fact that the contaminate mold spores will spread through out your grow area and home futher increasing the chances of future grows to become contaminated.

Placing spent and contamanated substrates outdoors is a vector into not wasting time, money, and effort spent on getting your substrate to the point of fruiting without wasting the substrate.
Giving the substrate a final chance to be fruitful with out harming your future grows or upping the contaminate spore count in your home and grow area as well as return organic material back to the Earth.


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