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Spent and Contaminated Substrates? Here's a Solution!
    #12663882 - 05/31/10 10:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Take that/those spent and contaminated substrate(s) out to country or rural area and dump them under a shady tree. Cover them up with leaves or grass (just what ever organic material you can find laying around to provide that micro climate of humidity underneath the orgnic material) like a casing layer for your spent or contaminated substrate(s), then soak with water every couple of days. If you live in a major metropolitan area, where from, it would not be convenient for you to get out to your spent and contaminated substrate mushroom patch every couple of days to water, check your local news weather forecast. Plan on planting them a day or two before a rain hits. Check them one to two days after the rain stops. Or if you live in a country that allows you to do this; dump spent and contaminated substrate(s) out in your back yard under a shady tree. This way you can be sure to give them a daily watering with out having to drive far. Or you could dump them in a bed of soil. Just be sure to place a casing of grass clippings or leaves.  Be creative. Do your own research. You may find the results of your studies to be quite rewarding and revealing.



                                           

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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12664052 - 05/31/10 10:59 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Great post, Ive only gotten lucky once

but Im always trying :vaped:


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: Pscientist]
    #12664474 - 06/01/10 12:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'll be doing this soon! I just need some spent substrates..all mine are colonizing right now.


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12665587 - 06/01/10 09:29 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Pscientist and Scat,

I would encourage you both to keep trying. The results of your research will be both rewarding and more importantly, in my opinion, revealing.


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12665842 - 06/01/10 10:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I've only done it in the winter and always got a cold snap shortly after, killing everything. :frown:


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: gornyhuy]
    #12665862 - 06/01/10 10:52 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

cool pix..
i always throw my spent trays out under these near by bushes.. and especially after it rains, i find great surprises


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: evildee125]
    #12665877 - 06/01/10 10:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I did this, and never went back to check on them, assumed they died :frown:  Texas coast is a good climate though, I'm sure I could do this in the future


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: Moetsukiru]
    #12666094 - 06/01/10 11:32 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

This is a great idea! I always toss them into the garden and sometimes afterwards I wish
I'd have left my subs in the GH for another couple of days. I've tossed a few outside that
flushed almost a good Oz.!

Now if I could just get my dog to stop peeing in my flower beds. :rolleyes:


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: KillaFoRilla]
    #12666099 - 06/01/10 11:33 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Now if I could just get my dog to stop peeing in my flower beds. :rolleyes:




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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: Moetsukiru]
    #12666318 - 06/01/10 12:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Word Dood. I've tried this before and didn't cover it. The patch is still consumed with mycelium. I bought a 40 lbs bag of cow poo to cover it and make another larger patch. It's hotter than hell here though. Do you think this will effect the growing process?
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: dangermike78]
    #12667286 - 06/01/10 03:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Your myc may have been cooked. Do you have your substrate(s) in an area that is out of direct sunlight and did you keep the substrate(s) hydrated?

Other than that, sounds good to me. Research has found that cubes prefer to fruit in lower temperatures, the heat will have little affect. They will still grow. It is more important to keep your colonizing medium out of direct sunlight if your area is hotter than hell right now. Also place a bed of leaves or grass clippings over your colonizing bed and this will keep the humidity underneath the grass clippings or leaves within proper growth parameter range. Water. Plenty of water. Water once a day do keep your bed properly hydrated for your warmer temperatures. Research indicates that watering in the morning is the best time so the humidity can be released all day from a morning watering.



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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12667362 - 06/01/10 03:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Word Dood I'm on it. I think I'm gonna cheat and use plastic to cover it. They're in a very shaded/partial woods spot. I was just letting the rain take care of the watering,but now I'll quit being lazy and water them in the morning.:thumbup:
Do you have any outdoor beds right now? If they can make it there, I'm sure they'll make it here.

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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12667502 - 06/01/10 04:27 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe i'm just lucky.... but everything i've put outside has eventually done something.  I threw some moldy subs out under a tree in like early march and we had several times that the temperature went below freezing.  Some animal dug through them in the months previous and spread it all out... but i've since gotten a small handfull (at least a mild trips worth) every time i've gone out to look.

Instead of disposing of spent/contaminated substrates i DEFINATELY second the notion of putting them outside somewhere to fruit.  In fact the largest fruit i've ever harvested came from my compost pile at my old place... it had a cap about 8 inches across!!!

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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: dangermike78]
    #12668228 - 06/01/10 06:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I think I'm gonna cheat and use plastic to cover it.




I don't know about the plastic, Mike. Wouldn't that restrict FAE and maybe trap heat as well?


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: Shaggy Shaman]
    #12671083 - 06/02/10 07:48 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I was thinking that by temporarily covering it after I covered it with cow poo, it would help it colonize faster and protect it from further outdoor contams.
I was using Bluelou as reference.
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: Shaggy Shaman]
    #12671137 - 06/02/10 08:14 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I think I'm gonna cheat and use plastic to cover it.




I don't know about the plastic, Mike. Wouldn't that restrict FAE and maybe trap heat as well?



For fruiting conditions, yes that would restrict fresh air exchange and trap in heat as well. What Mike is talking about is running mycelium through cow manure to become fully colonized then introduce into fruiting conditions. Much like you would your grain spawn jars/bags or brown rice flour cakes.
Actually this is a good plan for the colonizing of your mycelium to your cow manure. Like incubating your grain spawn in jars in your home. Temporarily covering your bed with a sheet of plastic with a few holes to allow for gases to exchange, while your mycelium is colonizing you cow manure is a good plan. Of coarse, once your mycelium fully colonizes your cow manure, to introduce your substrate into fruiting conditions you will simply pull the plastic off and your substrate and your substrate will begin receiving proper pinning triggers. Easy. Drop in temperature, increased light, superfluous fresh air exchange and humidity raising from your sub. This is where adding a layer of organic material comes into work, and a once a day watering in the morning.


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: Shaggy Shaman]
    #12673099 - 06/02/10 03:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Visited the mushroom patch this morning and harvested. Spores were allowed to drop before fruits were picked to see if any perpetuation of the specie would or could be achieved by spore germination for microscopic research only. Here is a look at the test sight right before the fruiting bodies were picked for research purposes only.



Closer examination;



Field case study results;

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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12673174 - 06/02/10 04:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Very nice work Ham! I'm impressed with the amount of fruit you harvested. Nice big clusters. Species? Total weight?
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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: dangermike78]
    #12673931 - 06/02/10 06:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

BHT. 1074 wet.


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Re: Spent and Contaminated Substrates. Here's a Suggestion. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12677213 - 06/03/10 07:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Damn!! That is a hell of a success story! Nice job. :tongue2:


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