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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: Arden]
    #12657718 - 05/30/10 07:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

What exactly are we paying the yogi for? Does he need a life saving operation to keep chanting? Are we employing him to save the world?

On another note, Is this catastrophe big enough to guilt the world into change?


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deXtrous]
    #12657787 - 05/30/10 08:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

You don't need money to chant.

And how is chanting going to stop the oil from spewing?


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
    #12657812 - 05/30/10 08:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

just be gratefull im bumping your thread:mel:

also shroomery didnt start in 03, nice try buddy... or did you just admit to being a pubpet?...:failboat:


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: Arden]
    #12659914 - 05/31/10 08:46 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Arden said:
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You know nothing about me. If you all don't have money, don't have faith, or don't care then call it how it is. But don't make me to sound like a grifter because I am not.




If only all the people in Katrina had spent their pitiful paychecks on the neighborhood witch doctor instead of lotto tickets, they would have more to offer their community other than Louisiana hot sauce. Right.

It's gonna take more than cash and prayers to fix this. Learn to swim.




Do you live in Louisiana?  Then STFU.


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
    #12659959 - 05/31/10 09:07 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Okay, first off it is not a guru which is handling this ritual but a team of Vedic pundits. Vedic pundits - to their way of thinking - are able to galvanize the natural deities to produce results.  Of course results depend upon many things, and prevention is the main key to yagyas, while having yagyas done after the fact of something tragic is not as beneficial. Still the main thing here is to pay people whos job it is to raise sentience to do so. And in raising sentience possibilities arise which may previously have been hidden.

I don't know if any of you have been watching the news but this oil spill has the potential to poison the entire southern United States. So a few bucks in well wishes simply cannot hurt. Of course many people would rather spend their cash on pain killers and other drugs to make them feel better. Here's a drug free way to feel like you're doing something to feel better. 

Nine people have come together to pay for and sponsor five pundits for a six hour ceremony and it starts either tonight in India (which is daytime there) or tomorrow evening. 

I am thankful to the internet that it allows possibilities like this.  Previous to the internet a person would have to travel to India to get such actions done. So I consider this an experiment.  Also an opportunity.  I am proud to be able to partake and sponsor this revolution in awareness.  People all over the world need to amp sentience at this present time as ecologically speaking there's only so much energy on this planet and it needs to be used to explore space and spread the human race to the nether regions of the galaxy or otherwise if our energy runs out then the next big disaster can topple even our greatest structures and maybe even wipe our species out entirely.

I am not guilt tripping people into helping me. I am pointing out some facts mixed with some mysticism.  Which is why I placed this in the mysticism forum. Some of you nmay6 believe. Some of you might have tattoos of Krishna, Shiva, Devi, and for what? When the opportunity presented itself for actual worship for the benefit of all sentient beings people looked at their shoes and turned a deaf ear. 25 bucks is little to ask for. And I have given away ten times that just having competitions in the marketplace over the years. 

All I want is one representative from the Shroomery who will not feel raped by donating 25 dollars to l-v-x@cox.net through Paypal.  One representative from here and I will continue to contribute in the yoga and mystical forums. Otherwise I consider speaking here to be a waste and I will remove myself from the spirituality topic here.  No point continuing right? 

Some people here have received gifts from me. If you donate I'll send you some rudraksha beads too.  The benefit isn't really that this ritual can or will stop or clean up the oil mess, but rather that some people at least will put their money where their mouth is at least in so far as for showing their best intention, which is a prayer, a prayer you pay for, to people who have all the facets of the prayer sussed out completely.

The ritual will take place in Varanasi (Benares) the City of Light. The deity will be Venkateshwara who is a very protective form of Vishnu who is married to Bhuvaneshwari and Mahalakshmi, the essences of earth and water.  Please help.

And if you don't feel like helping then at very least don't slight me for wishing to do something extraordinary.  WTF is up with that? Guilt I believe. Your guilt for leading a selfish life. However, I will recant my words about selfishness as I know nothing about any of you, except for what you tell me. Or through your actions.

Four of my sponsors are not "spiritual' people in any way or shape.  You need neither be also. The tantras are specifically named tantras because they require no belief to work. We are with this yagya acting as tantrics, putting a higher rate of sentience into the mix of this oil spill situation. How can that hurt while everybody is snoozing away and lost regarding what to do? 

Tell me why you think I am a dick for wishing for the best.


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
    #12660770 - 05/31/10 12:54 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The deities are just symbolic, they are not to be literally believed in. What's being worshipped is the qualities that those deities possess, not the deities themselves.

Eve, I feel that you are being swindled. There are some good people in India, but the crooks outnumber the sages 1,000 to 1. India is an extremely poor country, but has a very rich spiritual history and many people take advantage of this to make money. A true guru would never ask any money of you or from anyone.

If money is going to be donated to anyone, it should be to the relief effort in Louisiana which is actively trying to stop it as we speak.


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: appleorange]
    #12660840 - 05/31/10 01:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i sponsor buddhist pujas from time to time, it's a great practice - and really isn't that unusual to sponsor or donate for spiritual services when the money goes back to support the monks/monastery/etc, as they need resources to keep operating

i wish you the best with this eve69 :smile:


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deff] * 1
    #12661145 - 05/31/10 02:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

[Note: There is a very important point to be illustrated here, so for the sake of "spirituality" and the implications contained in this thread, this personal post is appropriate here.]

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Do you live in Louisiana?  Then STFU.





And then leaves me this mature rating:

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If you don't live in Louisiana then don't say rancid things about something you know nothing about. Fuckhead.

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You can call me an asshole and embody anger all that you want, which truthfully is ironic and slightly humorous considering that your thread was posted in the spirituality forum. You are calling upon people to engage in prayer and positive thinking, and yet when you encounter dissent that arises in the form of sarcasm you instantaneously resort to name-calling and leave a bad rating?

Just think of the severity and impending ecological turmoil our world's people will soon be facing, and when you yourself come face-to-face with opposition (and the obvious embarrassment for failing to get people on your donation bandwagon), you squirm in negativity and confusion like a child, resorting to infantile name-calling like "fuckhead". Real enlightened, Brah.

As for the Louisiana comment, let's get some facts straight. You can verify this with some of the mods here whom I have met in person: I am from the south and have family in Louisiana. Does this change my ability to turn a heartbreaking disaster into joke cracking and stereotypes? No. I also lived in north India and worked with Buddhist families in Ladakh. I have been in ashrams previously and have been shuffled through this little growth spurt of yours. Yet, most importantly, I have still retained a sense of humor and the patience to defer negativity that occasionally bubbles up from simple-minded people.

You gotta learn to grow with the flow. Here's 5 blue shroomies since they are so important to you.

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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill *DELETED* [Re: Arden]
    #12661352 - 05/31/10 03:07 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: wellage]
    #12661487 - 05/31/10 03:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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if you have the faith send the money.




Are you serious?  :rofl2:


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deCypher]
    #12661835 - 05/31/10 04:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Can't argue with that kind of hardboiled logic.


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My body I will give to pleasures,
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any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: Lion]
    #12662038 - 05/31/10 05:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It's convinced me. I suddenly feel gay and compelled to send money.


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deCypher]
    #12662051 - 05/31/10 05:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

lol. i bet it's another one of his pubpets.

i think he really just want :methisgood:



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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: I R Crankey]
    #12662985 - 05/31/10 08:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

:strokebeard:
Very interesting thread to read.


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: Kickle] * 1
    #12663476 - 05/31/10 09:16 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Kickle said:
:strokebeard:
Very interesting thread to read.




Lol I was just thinking the same thing...

If you don't send your paycheck to India you are a fuckhead. :lol:


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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69] * 1
    #12663519 - 05/31/10 09:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Go door to door if you want donations...


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