Home | Community | Message Board

NorthSpore.com BOOMR Bag!
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
OfflineBaby_Hitler
Errorist
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 27,613
Loc: To the limit!
Last seen: 4 hours, 6 minutes
Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts.
    #1266064 - 01/31/03 02:27 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Pubdate: Fri, 31 Jan 2003
Source: Associated Press (Wire)
Copyright: 2003 Associated Press
Related: please visit http://www.green-aid.com/ for updates from activists
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/people/Ed+Rosenthal

'GURU OF GANJA' FOUND GUILTY OF MARIJUANA CULTIVATION

SAN FRANCISCO An author of how-to books on growing marijuana andavoiding the law was convicted Friday of marijuana cultivation and
conspiracy charges.

The jury concluded that Ed Rosenthal, the self-described "Guru of
Ganja," was growing more than 1,000 plants, conspiring to cultivate marijuana and maintaining a warehouse for a growing operation. He faces a maximum life term when sentenced June 4.

Several people in the courtroom, including Rosenthal's wife and
daughter, wept as the verdicts were read by a court clerk.

The verdicts were a victory in the federal government's battle against California's 1996 voter-approved medical marijuana law. Rosenthal's arrest last year was among a string of Drug Enforcement Administration raids on medical marijuana suppliers in California.

Under strict orders from U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer, Rosenthal was never able to tell the jury that he was growing marijuana as "an officer" for the city of Oakland's medical marijuana program.

Oakland's program and others throughout California were authorized under Proposition 215. Eight other states also allow the sick and dying to smoke or grow marijuana with a doctor's recommendation.

But federal authorities do not recognize those laws.

"There is no such thing as medical marijuana," said Richard Meyer, aDEA spokesman. "We're Americans first, Californians second."

Jury foreman Charles Sackett III said outside court that jurors werefollowing federal law in finding Rosenthal guilty, but he personally hoped the verdict would be overturned.

"We had no legal wiggle room," Sackett said.

The government essentially portrayed Rosenthal as a major drug
supplier. Because federal laws trump state laws, Breyer ruled that
Rosenthal could not defend himself under the color of California's
Proposition 215. Marijuana, under federal rules, has no recognizedmedical benefit.

Rosenthal said he's anything but a drug dealer, noting that the plantsagents seized didn't have buds, the part of the plant normally smokedfor a high. He planned to give out cuttings to seriously ill people.

A founder of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana
Laws, Rosenthal used to write the "Ask Ed" column for High Times
magazine, and has researched and written nearly 20 books on marijuana.

Millions of copies have been sold, mostly in the United States, with titlessuch as The Growers Handbook, The Big Book of Buds, and Ask Ed: MarijuanaLaw. Don't Get Busted.


--------------------
Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
(•_•)
<) )~  ANTIFA
/ \
\(•_•)
( (>    SUPER
/ \
(•_•)
<) )>    SOLDIERS
  / \

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePhred
Fred's son
Male

Registered: 10/18/00
Posts: 12,949
Loc: Dominican Republic
Last seen: 9 years, 1 month
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1266078 - 01/31/03 02:35 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Damn.

I had hoped he would get off through the "jury nullification" tactic, but it looks like the jury didn't have the balls to go that route. That was pretty much the only chance he had once the judge disallowed his defense based on his working for the city of Oakland.

This verdict will certainly be appealed all the way to The Supremes. If ever there was a test case for the constitutionality of the drug-prohibition laws, this is it. I figure we should all cough up some coin to fund his appeal process. Presumably the NORML website will have such a fund set up shortly.

A sad day indeed.

pinky


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBaby_Hitler
Errorist
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 27,613
Loc: To the limit!
Last seen: 4 hours, 6 minutes
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: Phred]
    #1266089 - 01/31/03 02:40 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I think there is one. Check the first link http://www.green-aid.com/


--------------------
Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
(•_•)
<) )~  ANTIFA
/ \
\(•_•)
( (>    SUPER
/ \
(•_•)
<) )>    SOLDIERS
  / \

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinepattern
multiplayer

Registered: 07/19/02
Posts: 2,185
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 3 years, 11 months
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1266150 - 01/31/03 03:03 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Ed is wecome to stay in Canada.


--------------------
man = monkey + mushroom

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1266162 - 01/31/03 03:08 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I'd like to spit in the face of the person who decided to target Ed Rosenthal. Our federal government is a SICK institution. God help us all.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLearyfanS
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 34,143
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 9 hours, 23 minutes
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1266220 - 01/31/03 03:43 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)






--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month:  Sons Of Adam - Feathered Fish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineToxicManM
Bite me, it's fun!
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/28/02
Posts: 6,725
Loc: Aurora, Colorado
Last seen: 13 hours, 22 minutes
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1266893 - 01/31/03 08:04 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

According to the AP version of the story he faces maximum term of 85 years in prison. Of course, he's not a young man and an 85 year sentence would effectively be a life sentence.


--------------------
Happy mushrooming!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesilversoul7
Chill the FuckOut!
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/10/02
Posts: 27,301
Loc: mndfreeze's puppet army
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1267425 - 02/01/03 06:44 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.



Apparently, this has no meaning anymore.


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblecarbonhoots
old hand

Registered: 09/11/01
Posts: 1,351
Loc: BC Canada
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1267672 - 02/01/03 08:32 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Poor Eddy. I'm suprised something like this didn't happen sooner to him. I've often wondered how he pulled his blatent activism off so well.

What will happen to him? Think he'll die in jail?

How can a judge 'disallow' your defence? What the fuck does that even mean? They won't listen to you? What's the point of even having a trial? Some justice...

They feds/DEA stacked that jury too...






--------------------
  -I'd rather have a frontal lobotomy than a bottle in front of me

CANADIAN CENTER FOR POLICY ALTERNATIVES

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGabbaDjS
BTH
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/01
Posts: 19,679
Loc: By The Lake
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1267895 - 02/01/03 10:16 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Damn that fucking SUCKS... ..

Ed should have known better though. Even in the text of Prop 215, no one has any legal ground to grow 1000 plants.

Counties were given the right to decide how much was permitted per person and ONLY the sick person OR his caregiver had the right to posess or grow the pot in all of california...

In SanFrancisco Ed would have to be the Licensed and legel caregiver for almost 100 people to support that many plants.

I hope that on appeal Ed gets out of this eventualy.


--------------------
GabbaDj

FAMM.ORG             

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1267896 - 02/01/03 10:17 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I am shaking I am so angry.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBaby_Hitler
Errorist
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 27,613
Loc: To the limit!
Last seen: 4 hours, 6 minutes
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #1268881 - 02/01/03 03:47 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

When nobody else will do the work, then it falls on the shoulders of those who will.

There aren't nearly enough people supplying those in need. A good portion of the "Compassion Clubs" are just rackets set up by organized crime.

Everyone who is growing should be donating clones anonomously to the legitimate clubs.

If the pothead masses contributed more, people like him wouldn't have to do shit like that.


--------------------
Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
(•_•)
<) )~  ANTIFA
/ \
\(•_•)
( (>    SUPER
/ \
(•_•)
<) )>    SOLDIERS
  / \

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemonoamine
umask 077(nonefor you)

Registered: 09/06/02
Posts: 3,095
Loc: Jacksonville,FL
Last seen: 18 years, 5 months
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: ]
    #1277581 - 02/04/03 09:24 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

That fuckin' makes me sick.He could have raped someone and got less time.God help us.


--------------------
People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything...
Douglas Adams

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinerhizo
herb eater
Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 599
Loc: Superposition of possible...
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months
Re: Ed Rosenthal Guilty on All Counts. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1283871 - 02/06/03 04:58 AM (21 years, 30 days ago)

I think Ed may actually want to be in this position...he knew "they" knew. This puts the spotlight on the issue, people can't ignore what the federal government is doing anymore. Hopefully people's attitudes toward the demonization of plant cultivation will change as a result of this. I think we all owe ths guy a lot.


--------------------
An optimist is never pleasantly surprised.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Ed Rosenthal (Pot Grow God) Convicted of Three Felonies!! Jammer 1,859 11 02/11/03 02:52 PM
by Jammer
* Ed Rosenthal walks free infidelGOD 546 4 06/04/03 05:55 PM
by JohnnyRespect
* Petition against Pipe Dreams by Ed Rosenthal Anonymous 859 11 08/08/03 01:32 PM
by Azmodeus
* Want to help Ed Rosenthal and live in USA? socratesmind 671 9 02/26/03 06:35 PM
by socratesmind
* Rosenthal's jurors pissed off Phred 604 1 02/06/03 03:11 PM
by ToxicMan
* Guilty Until Proven Innocent CJay 1,375 9 10/12/04 05:09 AM
by CJay
* white house gleeful as saddam verdict nears... Annapurna1 1,004 16 12/31/06 06:58 PM
by robbyberto
* LIBBY GUILTY... Annapurna1 1,227 16 03/10/07 10:23 AM
by zorbman

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil, ballsalsa
1,566 topic views. 0 members, 9 guests and 0 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.023 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 14 queries.