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Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill
#12650154 - 05/29/10 11:21 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi Peeps, lots of people wanting to help with the oil spill but can't figure out how. Well I have a pundit master who has many yogis under his care and for yes money they chant and do elaborate homage to Hindu deities. In this case Venkateswara which is Vishnu's mount also known as the Garuda. I have already raised the money and am going forth with the ritual asap. Tomorrow or next Jyotish appropriate day. The pundit master matched my meager funds, but I could use more to make more of a sacrifice. For instance for a millionaire giving thousand of dollars to charity cannot even make them smile. But for us five bucks or 25 buck is a sacrifice and counts for alot more. I repeat this here for the few stragglers who may wish to give and enjoy the blessing ceremony. My Paypal is l-v-x@cox.net Please give anything. And leave your name (if you wish) and it will be mentioned before the devas and devis. Thanks Again and Peace and Love. So far eight people have each donated 25 bucks. That's really groovy to the top.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69] 1
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: Buckthorn]
#12651262 - 05/29/10 03:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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What's the Boo for? maybe it's not scrubbing birds but it's reinforcing positive vibes and hope for the world instead of the opposite. Also, we all partake of a synchronistic world where such things as the coming together of yogis with prayer can created quantum avant garde as far as pushing the morphagenic limit of peacefulness possibility. Of course people thing anyrthing inviklving money is a scam. In this case it converts to prayer and is a direct way of showing intention to participatet in that prayer. 8 people have donated 25 bucks each. The pundit maister said he would match my raised funds. It is already done. Just waiting on the best jyotish date to do the yagya. Now I spread this note in case others want to project their starriness upon the sky with their starry breathren. Some wish to plod on with their heads on the dirt.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
#12652488 - 05/29/10 08:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why does it cost money for a couple chants?
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deXtrous] 1
#12653598 - 05/30/10 12:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd rather just meditate on my own than pay other people to meditate for me.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deCypher]
#12654646 - 05/30/10 08:50 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, those are all great questions but are you meditating? And a couple chants - it's more like six solid hours of chanting and ritual action according to traditions passed down from beyond the limits of history. The whole idea is to generate a force of positive intention, instead of the sleepy normal reaction of most beurocrats. I am getting the devas involved. The ritual is already payed for. Now I am offering to allow those who feel the empathy to do something. If 25 bucks is beyond your moral and spiritual understanding then yes do keep questioning and maybe someday we'll learn something together. But to those who don't understand paying priests to do rituals then I suggest you try it once in your life for the peace it brings. Meditation is inside, yagya is for outside. Do both together and its like the whole environment responds to your positive will. And most especially, since most people hacve such negative thoughts we are helping people break through their cynicism and have positive thoughts for once. After trying it, sometimes people actually like being positive and stay with it. The key to a better lkife is not more and better knowledge but more positive love and life lived with more heart.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
#12654665 - 05/30/10 08:55 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Finally, I want to add that you will find that money is a huge amount of energy. Just try to give away 25 bucks where you are guarenteed no return but a thanks and then see how much it means. To use cash to state ones intention to benefit is one of the hardest things for people to do because we all need more and more money. Thus even small sacrifices like 20 bucks or so become full of the weight of positive intention which can cancel out much wrongdoing and negativity, not just without but within the person. Like magic. Our small amount of cash feeds an entire village of Indians and pprovides them with a reason for celebration. It's just damn good karma Bubs.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69] 1
#12654683 - 05/30/10 09:01 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Money is just paper.
Reminds me of India with all of those little brown people in robes hussling white folks with their promises of blessings.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
#12654767 - 05/30/10 09:25 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great work. You speak truth, please keep posting.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69] 1
#12655224 - 05/30/10 11:30 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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eve69 said: Finally, I want to add that you will find that money is a huge amount of energy. Just try to give away 25 bucks where you are guarenteed no return but a thanks and then see how much it means. To use cash to state ones intention to benefit is one of the hardest things for people to do because we all need more and more money. Thus even small sacrifices like 20 bucks or so become full of the weight of positive intention which can cancel out much wrongdoing and negativity, not just without but within the person. Like magic. Our small amount of cash feeds an entire village of Indians and pprovides them with a reason for celebration. It's just damn good karma Bubs.
I'd much rather pay affectees of the oil spill directly than you.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deCypher] 1
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Hi Peeps, lots of people wanting to help with the oil spill but can't figure out how.
I don't want it to get better I want it to be as big of a disaster as possible. Bad eh?
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: soldatheero]
#12656640 - 05/30/10 04:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well I live in New Orleans. I hear, 'Oh, I would rather pay afectees than you. I lived through katrina and I raised 16,000 dollars for the Clinton Bush Library fund. Now I am doing something diffferent. You know nothing about me. If you all don't have money, don't have faith, or don't care then call it how it is. But don't make me to sound like a grifter because I am not.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
#12656658 - 05/30/10 04:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dare anyone to sponsor this yagya with 25 bucks send to Paypal l-v-x@cox.net If not us, who? If not now, when? When one gives with no hope of receiving honors for it, then the honors are tripled. And it becomes an act of inner union or yoga.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
#12656856 - 05/30/10 05:00 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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can someone ban this junkie and his pubpet alraedy?
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: I R Crankey]
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: soldatheero]
#12656953 - 05/30/10 05:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi Peeps, lots of people wanting to help with the oil spill but can't figure out how.
I don't want it to get better I want it to be as big of a disaster as possible. Bad eh?
No that's smart imo. Otherwise nobody will notice for more that a day a week or a year.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: Icelander]
#12656994 - 05/30/10 05:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi Peeps, lots of people wanting to help with the oil spill but can't figure out how.
I don't want it to get better I want it to be as big of a disaster as possible. Bad eh?
No that's smart imo. Otherwise nobody will notice for more that a day a week or a year.
That shrimp will still notice. Doesn't he count? Poor little thing just wanted to swim around in a nice clean Gulf but now look. Not so clean. Well at least all the sheeple don't have to worry about sharks cause they won't be swimming.
Whew.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: LunarEclipse]
#12657381 - 05/30/10 06:51 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't understand the hostility! And Wut a Twist I've been at Shroomery since day one. Your silliness deserves banishment a whole lot more than mine. so :P Tomorrow is the last day to contribute. Thanks for your consideration.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
#12657593 - 05/30/10 07:32 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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You know nothing about me. If you all don't have money, don't have faith, or don't care then call it how it is. But don't make me to sound like a grifter because I am not.
If only all the people in Katrina had spent their pitiful paychecks on the neighborhood witch doctor instead of lotto tickets, they would have more to offer their community other than Louisiana hot sauce. Right.
It's gonna take more than cash and prayers to fix this. Learn to swim.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: Arden]
#12657718 - 05/30/10 07:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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What exactly are we paying the yogi for? Does he need a life saving operation to keep chanting? Are we employing him to save the world?
On another note, Is this catastrophe big enough to guilt the world into change?
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deXtrous]
#12657787 - 05/30/10 08:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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You don't need money to chant.
And how is chanting going to stop the oil from spewing?
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
#12657812 - 05/30/10 08:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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just be gratefull im bumping your thread
also shroomery didnt start in 03, nice try buddy... or did you just admit to being a pubpet?...
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: Arden]
#12659914 - 05/31/10 08:46 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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You know nothing about me. If you all don't have money, don't have faith, or don't care then call it how it is. But don't make me to sound like a grifter because I am not.
If only all the people in Katrina had spent their pitiful paychecks on the neighborhood witch doctor instead of lotto tickets, they would have more to offer their community other than Louisiana hot sauce. Right.
It's gonna take more than cash and prayers to fix this. Learn to swim.
Do you live in Louisiana? Then STFU.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
#12659959 - 05/31/10 09:07 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay, first off it is not a guru which is handling this ritual but a team of Vedic pundits. Vedic pundits - to their way of thinking - are able to galvanize the natural deities to produce results. Of course results depend upon many things, and prevention is the main key to yagyas, while having yagyas done after the fact of something tragic is not as beneficial. Still the main thing here is to pay people whos job it is to raise sentience to do so. And in raising sentience possibilities arise which may previously have been hidden.
I don't know if any of you have been watching the news but this oil spill has the potential to poison the entire southern United States. So a few bucks in well wishes simply cannot hurt. Of course many people would rather spend their cash on pain killers and other drugs to make them feel better. Here's a drug free way to feel like you're doing something to feel better.
Nine people have come together to pay for and sponsor five pundits for a six hour ceremony and it starts either tonight in India (which is daytime there) or tomorrow evening.
I am thankful to the internet that it allows possibilities like this. Previous to the internet a person would have to travel to India to get such actions done. So I consider this an experiment. Also an opportunity. I am proud to be able to partake and sponsor this revolution in awareness. People all over the world need to amp sentience at this present time as ecologically speaking there's only so much energy on this planet and it needs to be used to explore space and spread the human race to the nether regions of the galaxy or otherwise if our energy runs out then the next big disaster can topple even our greatest structures and maybe even wipe our species out entirely.
I am not guilt tripping people into helping me. I am pointing out some facts mixed with some mysticism. Which is why I placed this in the mysticism forum. Some of you nmay6 believe. Some of you might have tattoos of Krishna, Shiva, Devi, and for what? When the opportunity presented itself for actual worship for the benefit of all sentient beings people looked at their shoes and turned a deaf ear. 25 bucks is little to ask for. And I have given away ten times that just having competitions in the marketplace over the years.
All I want is one representative from the Shroomery who will not feel raped by donating 25 dollars to l-v-x@cox.net through Paypal. One representative from here and I will continue to contribute in the yoga and mystical forums. Otherwise I consider speaking here to be a waste and I will remove myself from the spirituality topic here. No point continuing right?
Some people here have received gifts from me. If you donate I'll send you some rudraksha beads too. The benefit isn't really that this ritual can or will stop or clean up the oil mess, but rather that some people at least will put their money where their mouth is at least in so far as for showing their best intention, which is a prayer, a prayer you pay for, to people who have all the facets of the prayer sussed out completely.
The ritual will take place in Varanasi (Benares) the City of Light. The deity will be Venkateshwara who is a very protective form of Vishnu who is married to Bhuvaneshwari and Mahalakshmi, the essences of earth and water. Please help.
And if you don't feel like helping then at very least don't slight me for wishing to do something extraordinary. WTF is up with that? Guilt I believe. Your guilt for leading a selfish life. However, I will recant my words about selfishness as I know nothing about any of you, except for what you tell me. Or through your actions.
Four of my sponsors are not "spiritual' people in any way or shape. You need neither be also. The tantras are specifically named tantras because they require no belief to work. We are with this yagya acting as tantrics, putting a higher rate of sentience into the mix of this oil spill situation. How can that hurt while everybody is snoozing away and lost regarding what to do?
Tell me why you think I am a dick for wishing for the best.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69]
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The deities are just symbolic, they are not to be literally believed in. What's being worshipped is the qualities that those deities possess, not the deities themselves.
Eve, I feel that you are being swindled. There are some good people in India, but the crooks outnumber the sages 1,000 to 1. India is an extremely poor country, but has a very rich spiritual history and many people take advantage of this to make money. A true guru would never ask any money of you or from anyone.
If money is going to be donated to anyone, it should be to the relief effort in Louisiana which is actively trying to stop it as we speak.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: appleorange]
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i sponsor buddhist pujas from time to time, it's a great practice - and really isn't that unusual to sponsor or donate for spiritual services when the money goes back to support the monks/monastery/etc, as they need resources to keep operating
i wish you the best with this eve69
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deff] 1
#12661145 - 05/31/10 02:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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[Note: There is a very important point to be illustrated here, so for the sake of "spirituality" and the implications contained in this thread, this personal post is appropriate here.]
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Do you live in Louisiana? Then STFU.
And then leaves me this mature rating:
Fucking Asshole 05/31/10 08:14 AM Respond Report
If you don't live in Louisiana then don't say rancid things about something you know nothing about. Fuckhead.
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You can call me an asshole and embody anger all that you want, which truthfully is ironic and slightly humorous considering that your thread was posted in the spirituality forum. You are calling upon people to engage in prayer and positive thinking, and yet when you encounter dissent that arises in the form of sarcasm you instantaneously resort to name-calling and leave a bad rating?
Just think of the severity and impending ecological turmoil our world's people will soon be facing, and when you yourself come face-to-face with opposition (and the obvious embarrassment for failing to get people on your donation bandwagon), you squirm in negativity and confusion like a child, resorting to infantile name-calling like "fuckhead". Real enlightened, Brah.
As for the Louisiana comment, let's get some facts straight. You can verify this with some of the mods here whom I have met in person: I am from the south and have family in Louisiana. Does this change my ability to turn a heartbreaking disaster into joke cracking and stereotypes? No. I also lived in north India and worked with Buddhist families in Ladakh. I have been in ashrams previously and have been shuffled through this little growth spurt of yours. Yet, most importantly, I have still retained a sense of humor and the patience to defer negativity that occasionally bubbles up from simple-minded people.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: wellage]
#12661487 - 05/31/10 03:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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wellage said: if you have the faith send the money.
Are you serious?
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deCypher]
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Can't argue with that kind of hardboiled logic.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: Lion]
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It's convinced me. I suddenly feel gay and compelled to send money.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: deCypher]
#12662051 - 05/31/10 05:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol. i bet it's another one of his pubpets.
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: I R Crankey]
#12662985 - 05/31/10 08:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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 Very interesting thread to read.
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 Very interesting thread to read.
Lol I was just thinking the same thing...
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Re: Yagya or Ritual for Affectees of the Oil Spill [Re: eve69] 1
#12663519 - 05/31/10 09:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Go door to door if you want donations...
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