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My first Peyote. Iโve had these since 2009.
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Warrk



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Loph seeds should not be buried, just leave them on top of your soil mix.
Humidity achieved by having a lid on is better than misting twice a day I reckon. With a lid on you're actually creating humidity where misting just means the substrate is not dry.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Warrk]
#28496587 - 10/08/23 02:00 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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I know. I messed up, wish I never put the pumice on top of prob have like 15 seedlings right now. I'll start to cover them again just gotta get some fungicide first. Thanks for your help man.
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Argyreia
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This year's crop of seeds. Sowed them throughout september and left them in a closed box in full sun with occasional venting and misting. I could have done this every year but my lazy ass just let the fruits dry on my lophs and did nothing. Now the plan is doing this every year, sow in september all the year's seeds. Perfect time of the year climate wise to neglect tek outdoors in a box. Temperatures at night are low enough to help sprouting and the sun is not powerful enough to burn them. Winter indoors under lights and they will be ready to join the family next spring.
 Can you spot them all ?
Edited by Argyreia (10/10/23 10:36 AM)
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Argyreia]
#28498742 - 10/10/23 11:56 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Thatโs great. Whatโs the temps when you did this?
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Argyreia
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Soloist]
#28498763 - 10/10/23 12:20 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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As low as 7 or 8ยฐC in the morning and 25ยฐC at the hottest. Roughly 45ยฐ in the northern hemisphere.
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With a lot of light and warmth, this went from seed to flower in 11 months, on it's own roots!
It was planted last October and flowered in September. Its about 5 cm or 2 inches wide.
They grow surprisingly fast in the right conditions, but those conditions are also too bright and warm for the comfort of most other plants.
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Argyreia
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Nillion]
#28529970 - 11/05/23 06:56 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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Little update. They are now two month old, indoors under led and fluoro lights. I'm glad I did not lose one yet. I also like their color and shape, very spiny, almost sunburnt little dark brown/red balloons. Some of them are sprouting just now so it's important to keep high humidity.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Nillion] 2
#28535051 - 11/09/23 03:16 AM (2 months, 18 days ago) |
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That's insane growth
Got this guy like 2 years ago and it still hasn't flowered



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my one guy is going squishy
Skin seems fine, hope its not rot.
But ive been watering it so idk if its dehydration? fuck
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Luminous7]
#28541626 - 11/13/23 03:56 PM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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You've been watering it? Lophs only need watered like 5 times a year if you're doing it right, otherwise you may kill them with rot and fungal pathogens.
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TempestDnB said: You've been watering it? Lophs only need watered like 5 times a year if you're doing it right, otherwise you may kill them with rot and fungal pathogens.
Ive been watering it when it gets fully bone dry yes.
It only got soft / squishy like an old potato once i moved it from a warm T5 light to a cooler spot under an LED light. ( My flourescent lamp broke so had to move it )
When it was in the warmer spot under the T5 i could water it often and it would swell , be really firm and so healthy.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Luminous7]
#28541775 - 11/13/23 06:13 PM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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I read online that its common for them to get squishy in winter months.
Which is right when it started, cooler weather came, it got moved away from its warm light spot ...
I have them on a heat matt now under bright LEDs , is the heat matt a good idea?
my thought was that it helps the soil dry out quicker when watered.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Luminous7]
#28541808 - 11/13/23 06:44 PM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Luminous7]
#28541830 - 11/13/23 07:08 PM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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Pull it out of its pot and check the roots for rot.
If a plant is in dormancy over winter don't water it.
During the growing season you can water whenever the substrate is dry but be careful of a plant growing too fast as it can split so don't over do it. If you grow in a purely mineral mix (no organic matter) it might be a safer bet both to prevent rot as well as to prevent splitting.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Luminous7]
#28542357 - 11/14/23 07:34 AM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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TempestDnB said: You've been watering it? Lophs only need watered like 5 times a year if you're doing it right, otherwise you may kill them with rot and fungal pathogens.
Ive been watering it when it gets fully bone dry yes.
It only got soft / squishy like an old potato once i moved it from a warm T5 light to a cooler spot under an LED light. ( My flourescent lamp broke so had to move it )
When it was in the warmer spot under the T5 i could water it often and it would swell , be really firm and so healthy.
Nah, not just waiting for what feels like dry on the surface, like waiting a month, or two, or three, until it really starts to shrink and bit, then you give it a good thorough soaking. They're tough plants, but they can only take being treated like a normal houseplant so much before it gets em. Like the other poster said, no water in the winter at all. Cut it out for three months. Also this is with extremely well draining soil that is at least 80% mineral, you don't want to end up with a bunch of dry compacted organic material.
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Luminous7


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Warrk said: Pull it out of its pot and check the roots for rot.
If a plant is in dormancy over winter don't water it.
During the growing season you can water whenever the substrate is dry but be careful of a plant growing too fast as it can split so don't over do it. If you grow in a purely mineral mix (no organic matter) it might be a safer bet both to prevent rot as well as to prevent splitting.
Thanks for the tip, ill do that.
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TempestDnB said: You've been watering it? Lophs only need watered like 5 times a year if you're doing it right, otherwise you may kill them with rot and fungal pathogens.
Ive been watering it when it gets fully bone dry yes.
It only got soft / squishy like an old potato once i moved it from a warm T5 light to a cooler spot under an LED light. ( My flourescent lamp broke so had to move it )
When it was in the warmer spot under the T5 i could water it often and it would swell , be really firm and so healthy.
Nah, not just waiting for what feels like dry on the surface, like waiting a month, or two, or three, until it really starts to shrink and bit, then you give it a good thorough soaking. They're tough plants, but they can only take being treated like a normal houseplant so much before it gets em. Like the other poster said, no water in the winter at all. Cut it out for three months. Also this is with extremely well draining soil that is at least 80% mineral, you don't want to end up with a bunch of dry compacted organic material.
Who said anything about "just waiting for what feels like dry on the surface" ? I said fully bone dry lol
I always wait until its 100% dry all the way through , which happens very quickly in the grow space . ( 24 degrees C full light and good air flow. )
My question is, if you continue to give them growing conditions throughout winter, Warmth full sun ect, is it still neccecary to cut back watering?
My substrate is like mostly beach sand and cactus soil from the store with glacial rock dust.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Luminous7]
#28543588 - 11/15/23 03:40 AM (2 months, 12 days ago) |
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Beach sand is too fine, not recommended. If you must use sand, use sharp coarse sand around 3-6mm grain size. Pea gravel also ok, or lava rock, pumice, zeolite. And then there's all those specialist materials from Japan like kanuma etc. if you want to up your game and really nail it.
As long as you are providing the required conditions such as warmth and good air flow you can water year round and there's no need to cut back on watering. Temperature is the key.
You can also water only when your plants get squishy and a bit dehydrated to grow them hard. They will grow enormous tap roots this way instead of, say, watering every week or every fortnight.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Warrk] 1
#28543675 - 11/15/23 07:18 AM (2 months, 12 days ago) |
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Warrk said: Beach sand is too fine, not recommended. If you must use sand, use sharp coarse sand around 3-6mm grain size. Pea gravel also ok, or lava rock, pumice, zeolite. And then there's all those specialist materials from Japan like kanuma etc. if you want to up your game and really nail it.
As long as you are providing the required conditions such as warmth and good air flow you can water year round and there's no need to cut back on watering. Temperature is the key.
You can also water only when your plants get squishy and a bit dehydrated to grow them hard. They will grow enormous tap roots this way instead of, say, watering every week or every fortnight.
I'm sorry, I forget that not everyone is going for more natural hard growth, some people want that bloated look. I recommend less watering and a dormancy period because it's safer for people learning how to grow em, no chance of overwatering if you only water monthly/bi-monthly. I guess the big thing is that I see people kill them frequently with frequent waterings and a bad soil that doesn't drain well.
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Luminous7


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Thanks for your tips guys!
Ive just soaked em because I made a decision i beleive they are dehydrated. Will monitor closely for firmness.
If they dont firm up in a couple days ill know it wasnt dehydration and ill prob repot them anyways with a better mix.
The beach sand is very heavy and dosnt drain super well. Thanks for that tip
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