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modern.shaman
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Spanishfly]
#23045433 - 03/25/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is what you suspect however be aware that this is from a seller in china and importing plants isn't permitted without paperwork and permit. They may come thru but be aware you may lose them to customs and just get a love letter
True, but I have been sending plants, including Lophophora williamsii - which is totally forbidden there - to growers in the US for many years. One package only has been seized by US customs - dozens weren´t.
Completely agree US Customs is lacking and I'm sure that 'cactuschina' has enough experience like you with properly packaging and sending to pass customs.
Many, including myself, have gotten plants from overseas but some people aren't aware that customs may take the package. Usually with only few plants results in a love letter but bulk orders of lophophora can lead to being arrested as they are easily identified.
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spaceman101
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I've always wondered if you get locked up with Lophs and shit like that through customs.
I've ordered and had them stopped in the past but all I got was a box ripped open with a letter attached to it saying customs got a hold of it. No arrest though so I just figured if they stop it before you get your hands on it then they'll just take it and send a letter without an arrest
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modern.shaman
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Like I've said small orders are fine just like small orders of drugs just end in a love letter from customs. But there have been a few reports of people importing lots of lophos and having a controlled delivery resulting in arrests. Not common and one or two plants is not a big deal and will just end in loss of money.
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modern.shaman
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Also be aware that all cacti are protected by CITES and not allowed shipping without permits. Even bulk non-active orders of cacti and other protected plants can lead to arrest. Read about George and Kathy Norris.
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spaceman101
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I was trying to stick to the dangers of shipping them across waters with or without documentation?
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spaceman101 said: I was trying to stick to the dangers of shipping them across waters with or without documentation?
Bloody hell fire, theres 63 things on your i want list! Dont want much do you hahahaha.....
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spaceman101 said: I was trying to stick to the dangers of shipping them across waters with or without documentation?
No not you, you so paranoid!
Pics with vendor names, vendor discussion, is a slight breach. We wander down this path occasionally when outlandish lophs appear at auction
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spaceman101 said: I was trying to stick to the dangers of shipping them across waters with or without documentation?
Bloody hell fire, theres 63 things on your i want list! Dont want much do you hahahaha.....
I don't understand your statement 
Yes I do want a lot of different seeds to work with
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spaceman101 said: I was trying to stick to the dangers of shipping them across waters with or without documentation?
No not you, you so paranoid!
Pics with vendor names, vendor discussion, is a slight breach. We wander down this path occasionally when outlandish lophs appear at auction 
I know what you mean now!
Every time I hear of someone doing something wrong I assume it's me they're talking to with all my past fuck up in here
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Mostly_Harmless said: Pics with vendor names, vendor discussion, is a slight breach. We wander down this path occasionally when outlandish lophs appear at auction 
Sorry I didn't even realize that pic had a vender name in it til after I had posted it and was looking at it and the replies again 
I always get excited when I see a bizarre loph or trich that is new to me and my first thought is usually to post em here for feedback
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Raven44
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Over watered apparently
What to do? De graft or re pot into dry medium?
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impatientguy
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Raven44]
#23055996 - 03/28/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd probably just let the soil dry out
You risk loosing it that way though.
I'm lazy.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Raven44]
#23056053 - 03/28/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Over watered apparently
What to do? De graft or re pot into dry medium?
Sometimes neglect is the best course of action. Btw it looks fine. I see no problems but when in doubt neglect.
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Raven44
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Raven44]
#23063573 - 03/30/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Over watered apparently
What to do? De graft or re pot into dry medium?
Well turns out they weren't over watered after all..
Or were they lol u tell me??
Either way they looking better and the wet spots are drying up if u will.. the darker green lesions are fading away.
Makes me think I didn't over water to begin. Do they just look like normally after watering? I'm assuming so after watering and seeing that
It was the first time I ever watered a loph lol. I think I over reacted
I didn't take them out of their pots or cut them at all was gonna wait least a day longer to do that IF I was going to at all.. now I've decided to leave them be
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ferrel_human
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Raven44]
#23063871 - 03/30/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did you use tap water? Over here when i have used tap water they get wrinkly at the base. Still fine but ease up on thw water. They look good bro.
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Raven44
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U know, my gf watered them honestly.
We have RO water for plants I assume she used the ro water..
Is that OK to use??
I'm still concerned about the orange spots on the one loph...
Since watering it, it seems the orange spot stopped expanding..
One other thought is, maybe it's getting kinda cold at night for them..?
It's 70-75 during their days. 60-65 degrees during their nights as of lately.
For awhike I had a heater going which kept their night temps at 70 degrees or 72... now it's 60-65.
Also, they are still on 12/12 cycle. Should I bump them up to a 18/6 cycle since I started to give then their first spring waterings???
Ty for the help, they look good cause we got em in good shape and we haven't done anything to them lol. Up until now, watering them is the first Thing we've done
My gf is planning on putting them into a wider bottomed terra cotta pot. And planting other succulents with them.
Any reccomendations on good companion succulents for lophs?? Besides other lophs lpl
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Mostly_Harmless
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Raven44]
#23065460 - 03/30/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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The watering and soil requirements for most other succulents wouldn't be in tune with what a loph needs. They don't like to be overpotted too much, and roots fill a pot quite slowly, their current pot size is about right for many years.
Lophs can take a chill ok, it is mostly a problem if they are wet at the roots and not in active growth, they stop taking up water and risk rot sitting in damp soil.
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Straight RO water is no good for anything. It has nothing the plants can feed on and besides leaches out whatever is left on the substrate. Get yourself a good general purpose plant fertilizer (the "blooming" or "fruiting" formulation) and dilute it at 1/10 or 1/20 strength before watering. Make sure the fertilizer is the type with trace elements.
Still, it wouldn't cause those orange spots. Those I would suggest are either too high humidity or a mild RSM attack. Ventilate and inspect the plant with a magnifying glass to see if there are minute yellowish/reddish mites crawling around.
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Spanishfly
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I give my Lophophora williamsii exactly the same soil mix as my other Mexican cacti that come from the same habitat.
And I find that they are no more slower growing than most other globular cacti, and faster than many. But with their deep taproots I find their potting requirements much easier to manage using Long Tom pots.
And what exactly IS "RO" water?? Probably obvious when it is said, but nobody has yet defined the abbreviation. I use good old tap water - no other choice - left to stand for 24 hours to let the chlorine dissipate, giving a half strength low Nitrogen fert about every fourth watering.
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Edited by Spanishfly (03/31/16 02:21 AM)
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