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Fuzz-nutter



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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: psi]
#22923176 - 02/19/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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so much info, most excellent thank you.
But unfortunately I do not own a microwave. Such is life.
I wish I had used the cactus mix from the beginning with the peres. stupidly because I heard the PERES like it wet and organic, I assumed that a grafted peres would "pass" that trait to the scion. very wrong
I'll maybe pasteurize the soil
what about coco coir? How is that for a soil mix
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psi
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Yeah whatever heat treatment strategy is available should be fine.
I have not used coir but a lot of people recommend it as being better than peat. Perlite is another good component (not as a replacement for either of those but along with.) It has good aeration and moisture retention properties but you wouldn't want to use it on its own. It's also good in a peyote mix.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: psi]
#22923238 - 02/19/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ive used coir and have only 1 button in it. With a top dressing of rocks
From el Oso coahuila mx.

Works good, I'll say.
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Fuzz-nutter



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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: psi]
#22923265 - 02/19/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's a very healthy/natural looking button you have there.
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psi said: Yeah whatever heat treatment strategy is available should be fine.
I have not used coir but a lot of people recommend it as being better than peat. Perlite is another good component (not as a replacement for either of those but along with.) It has good aeration and moisture retention properties but you wouldn't want to use it on its own. It's also good in a peyote mix.
I forgot about perlite, I've got a shit ton of that around.
Any idea if I can over do it with the gypsum clay buster pellets? I don't want to fuck up the mix
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psi
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Fuzz-nutter said: stupidly because I heard the PERES like it wet and organic, I assumed that a grafted peres would "pass" that trait to the scion. very wrong
Well it sorta does while it's on the graft, it's just peyote on its own roots that you want to avoid that stuff with.
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Any idea if I can over do it with the gypsum clay buster pellets? I don't want to fuck up the mix
Are those the ones that are made of fired clay? I have not used them but I think it would be fine to go nuts on them.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: psi]
#22923328 - 02/19/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks fuzz nutter. I pride myself on that.
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Fuzz-nutter



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I bet crushed coral (not condoning this, just I've seen miles of sandune piles of dead coral) would be great. It's really gritty I feel the roots could really get in that stuff.
I've always noticed that my cacti love their terracotta pots, the rootball is usually hard to pull out because the roots grow little fine hairs into the clay.
Man, I really appreciate this community. I'm going to start the trich and loph growers threads from the beginning
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i wish there was a var with black spots. man, that's beautiful.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Lemnaminor]
#22923469 - 02/19/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks man. I been contemplating degrafting it and planting it in rock. Maybe it will do better this time around.
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Spanishfly
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I've always noticed that my cacti love their terracotta pots, the rootball is usually hard to pull out because the roots grow little fine hairs into the clay.
I never use anything else. For those genera with deep tap roots, which include Lophophora, Ariocarpus, I use Long Tom pots - extra deep for their diameter.
There are as many favourite soil mixes as there are growers - my own general mix for Mexican desert cacti is mostly coarse sand and grit, with limestone and some loam - with a small amount of wormcasts.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Spanishfly]
#22923999 - 02/19/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spanishfly said: coarse sand and grit, with limestone and some loam - with a small amount of wormcasts.
Do you have any pics of each of these materials?
We don't have a lot of these things available here in America for some reason
I guess they may be labeled differently but all I find here is rocks.
I don't even know What The Fuck Loam is
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Fuzz-nutter



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loam-
a fertile soil of clay and sand containing humus. GEOLOGY a soil with roughly equal proportions of sand, silt, and clay
Didn't know what loam was either. Do you do out organic material in?
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psi
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Loam is a texture of mineral soil made up of a variety of particle sizes. Soil that you dig up from outside has a good chance of being some kind of loam.
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Spanishfly
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: psi]
#22925641 - 02/20/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Love the ternary diagram, psi - I just call it top soil (loam is being posh).
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spaceman101 said:
Do you have any pics of each of these materials?
We don't have a lot of these things available here in America for some reason
Spaceman - I am TOTALLY envious of the VAST array of materials available to you guys in the US.
I have to scrabble by with what I can get - I use a type of coarse grit that they use to pebble dash external walls - granitos from the builder´s merchant. I can´t get dolomite lime locally - but I can get ornamental marble chips which I crush up a handful at a time. Loam (topsoil) I go and dig up. Etc, etc.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Spanishfly]
#22927777 - 02/20/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spanishfly said:
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spaceman101 said:
Do you have any pics of each of these materials?
We don't have a lot of these things available here in America for some reason
Spaceman - I am TOTALLY envious of the VAST array of materials available to you guys in the US.
I have to scrabble by with what I can get - I use a type of coarse grit that they use to pebble dash external walls - granitos from the builder´s merchant. I can´t get dolomite lime locally - but I can get ornamental marble chips which I crush up a handful at a time. Loam (topsoil) I go and dig up. Etc, etc.
Now imagine having a friend who does granite counter tops. My buddy hooks me up fat. Wait a minute. He hooks me up obese all the time i show up at his shop. Rock everywhere ftw.
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ferrel_human said:
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Spanishfly said:
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spaceman101 said:
Do you have any pics of each of these materials?
We don't have a lot of these things available here in America for some reason
Spaceman - I am TOTALLY envious of the VAST array of materials available to you guys in the US.
I have to scrabble by with what I can get - I use a type of coarse grit that they use to pebble dash external walls - granitos from the builder´s merchant. I can´t get dolomite lime locally - but I can get ornamental marble chips which I crush up a handful at a time. Loam (topsoil) I go and dig up. Etc, etc.
Now imagine having a friend who does granite counter tops. My buddy hooks me up fat. Wait a minute. He hooks me up obese all the time i show up at his shop. Rock everywhere ftw.
I like your turn of phrase there Obese
I'm guessing that meens he hooks you up even fatter than fat
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I got 4 buckets of rock and more rock everywhere lying round the house.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: grownright]
#22931050 - 02/21/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea I am going thru a little rot on one of my grafts myself. Saved one for sure, and made a fucked up graft out of a piece of the other. We shall see how it works out.
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