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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: spaceman101]
    #22381993 - 10/15/15 07:29 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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I Think those things are fucking deadly :eek:

Also Honestly I think I would be safer wiping my ass with an Echinocactus grusonii rather than shaking your hand:stoned:



I thought I had some pretty ridiculous nails until seeing yours:tongue:


Seriously not trying to offend you but you're a male right?




Lovely plant with a nice taproot - well done.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: cantharis]
    #22383404 - 10/15/15 03:11 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I'm thinking about growing L.W on a larger scale. 1000+ plants. Crazy I know.. I already have close to 200 seedlings and some adults. I've been trying to find the easiest and most effective way to do this. My plan roughly looks like this. Please comment!

First I start growing in small plastic containers. Here I can easily get 100 seedlings in small space. They grow here first year.




After one year I repot in plastic tray. Each pot 35x35x70 mm. 630 plants per square meter. Here they grow to flowering size 30 mm. The space needed is 2 square meters.
http://www.herkuplast.com/en/program/QuickPot/Danish/QP%2BD%2B104__-__7R.html


Next step I repot to 70x70x110 mm square plastic pots. At this step they take a lot of room and they will live in my greenhouse. Here the grow to adult size.
http://www.kakteen-haage.de/en/accessories/pots/pots-saucers-and-planters/Deep-pots-square-7-x-7-x-11-cm-1-piece.html


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Cactus79]
    #22383540 - 10/15/15 03:39 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

By definition, once a plant flowers it is a sexually mature adult.
Good luck with your project !!!!


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Spanishfly]
    #22385107 - 10/15/15 09:19 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I have a bunch of LW's sprouting but they seem to be streching .  Im using a cfl tube on them for 14-16 or so hours a day...

I can take a pic of the set up if that helps too




any advice?


Edited by P-O (10/15/15 09:45 PM)


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: P-O]
    #22385504 - 10/15/15 10:39 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

More light is the only solution for cacti stretching that I am aware of :shrug: Just don't burn em.

Supplementing with sun when available can help too if its an option.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: musiclover420]
    #22385569 - 10/15/15 10:52 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

ya i just finished giving them a new set up.  i had them in smaller tub (with a heating mat), the tube light was bigger then the tub so it had to go it on a weird angle.


So i used a larger tub and cut holes in it so i could put the light much closer.... I also took off painter tape that was on the top of the humidity dome (why not) i had previously used to sort other seedling i grew in this humidity dome


Should help for sure!

I just hope they recover.... they are stretched :ooo:

Thanks for the reply dude


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: P-O]
    #22385666 - 10/15/15 11:08 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)




new set up... lil ghetto for sure.  but at least they are getting much better coverage and they are closer to the light


counted 22 babies so far.


Another Quick question....

Ordered 50 Trichocereus Pachanoi Monstrose x Pachanoi and 50 Trichocereus SS02 x Peruvianus SERRA BLUE, last week.  Can i just plant them with the LW's?  or for some reason should they get their own home (for now)


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Cactus79]
    #22386829 - 10/16/15 04:30 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm thinking about growing L.W on a larger scale. 1000+ plants. Crazy I know.. I already have close to 200 seedlings and some adults. I've been trying to find the easiest and most effective way to do this. My plan roughly looks like this. Please comment!

First I start growing in small plastic containers. Here I can easily get 100 seedlings in small space. They grow here first year.




After one year I repot in plastic tray. Each pot 35x35x70 mm. 630 plants per square meter. Here they grow to flowering size 30 mm. The space needed is 2 square meters.
http://www.herkuplast.com/en/program/QuickPot/Danish/QP%2BD%2B104__-__7R.html


Next step I repot to 70x70x110 mm square plastic pots. At this step they take a lot of room and they will live in my greenhouse. Here the grow to adult size.
http://www.kakteen-haage.de/en/accessories/pots/pots-saucers-and-planters/Deep-pots-square-7-x-7-x-11-cm-1-piece.html



You plan seems perfectly feasible. I would, however, comment on two things:

- growing L. williamsii to 30mm in 35mm cell trays seems a bit unrealistic. You know how much they grow below soil level, and when they start to get too tight, growth will suffer. Maybe you should consider a bigger cell arrangement, even if it costs you valuable greenhouse space;

(and, by the way, although the math is right at 630/m2, the individual trays have 104 cells and measure 310x530mm. That means that a 1040 plant setup will take 10 trays and 1.65m2, in case it matters).

- if you plan on selling the plants when they reach a reasonable size, those 7x7x11 pots are overkill; you will be better of with 7x7x8 pots that cost a fraction of that and serve you just as well.

Good luck and show us your progress! :thumbup:


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: LSoares]
    #22387236 - 10/16/15 09:10 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

hey guys I need help! one of my loph is not looking that good. i took it as a cutting 1 month ago left it to dry for 2 weeks then planted in good soil. i watered it once one week ago. now it start to get a bit dark green and squishy (soft). whats wrong? is it dehydration and need to water more? or is it a rot? i dont think its a rot because i didnt water on the plant itself just beside it.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: golmo]
    #22388870 - 10/16/15 05:13 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

don't plant it, let alone water it, before you see any roots.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: golmo]
    #22388946 - 10/16/15 05:33 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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hey guys I need help! one of my loph is not looking that good. i took it as a cutting 1 month ago left it to dry for 2 weeks then planted in good soil. i watered it once one week ago. now it start to get a bit dark green and squishy (soft). whats wrong? is it dehydration and need to water more? or is it a rot? i dont think its a rot because i didnt water on the plant itself just beside it.






We need a picture to know for sure but when you plant a Loph to root you do not want to water it AT ALL until you see some decent roots.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: spaceman101]
    #22389178 - 10/16/15 06:19 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

IS it better to cut pups in their winter season to graft, while your not watering them?


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: golmo]
    #22389339 - 10/16/15 06:52 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

No. Better cutting them to graft while they're full of water and actively growing. Not to say you cannot graft when they're dormant, although it's important that both the stock and scion are turgid when attempting to do so.


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hey guys I need help! one of my loph is not looking that good. i took it as a cutting 1 month ago left it to dry for 2 weeks then planted in good soil. i watered it once one week ago. now it start to get a bit dark green and squishy (soft). whats wrong? is it dehydration and need to water more? or is it a rot? i dont think its a rot because i didnt water on the plant itself just beside it.





It sounds as if it may be dehydrating, which is normal for a plant without roots. It will shrink and get a bit squishy, like an old potato, before putting out roots. This is normal. If there's any spots or blotches then that's not normal.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: karode13]
    #22389837 - 10/16/15 08:40 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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No. Better cutting them to graft while they're full of water and actively growing. Not to say you cannot graft when they're dormant, although it's important that both the stock and scion are turgid when attempting to do so.




If i put them under t5's in a warm condition, they wont go dormant, correct?


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: total]
    #22394076 - 10/17/15 05:57 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

then what am i supposed to do if they are dehydrated and i am not allowed to water them? do i need to take them out of soil again and wait more before planting them? some roots begin to form


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: golmo]
    #22394366 - 10/17/15 07:13 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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then what am i supposed to do if they are dehydrated and i am not allowed to water them? do i need to take them out of soil again and wait more before planting them? some roots begin to form



Wait for them to root.  You should only take cuttings on well hydrated, actively growing plants of a decent size, otherwise they might shrivel up and die before rooting.  :shrug:


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: total]
    #22394398 - 10/17/15 07:18 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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No. Better cutting them to graft while they're full of water and actively growing. Not to say you cannot graft when they're dormant, although it's important that both the stock and scion are turgid when attempting to do so.




If i put them under t5's in a warm condition, they wont go dormant, correct?





That's correct. So long as temperatures are high enough and they're watered then they'll keep growing.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: karode13]
    #22396503 - 10/18/15 09:34 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

This is the first winter where I'll be looking after an adult loph. What can I expect to happen to it in cold temperatures when it's not being watered, just so I know what to look out for in case I suspect rot?


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    #22396549 - 10/18/15 10:06 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

If the soil is bone dry, and the plant healthy, rot shouldn't just happen because they are cold. As winter progresses, you will see more wrinkling of the body, and it might pull down towards the soil more, all perfectly natural. They have a large reserve of water in the tap root to keep them going, the mass of the root is often greater than the crown.
How cold will they be getting?


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: The-Royal-Scam]
    #22396565 - 10/18/15 10:11 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

As long as it doesn´t freeze it will be fine.  L williamsii is a very forgiving and tough species.


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